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  1. #21
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    Thumbs up Yes ... the shot is born!

    Okay ... finished the details ... now, where was I? Oh yeah. getting rid of that darn sign ....

    How about this panorama that Frank shot?

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    Way to go, Frank! Almost a year in the making ... (<- click on this link to see original thread posting for the proposed shot.)

    Now, you can cut this up as you wish, but there it is ... w/o the darn sign. Instant removal! Well, maybe not so instant ... but, a "workable" image, none-the-less.

    It turned out the way I had always "pictured it." Pun ... intended!

    Thanks for sticking to it, Frank. I know this took some time ... but, there you go! Graduation Day!
    Last edited by DonSchap; 11-17-2008 at 01:16 AM.
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    I don't know how you did it that is great. I will have to give it a try again. Did you remove the sign first?
    Thanks DON
    Frank
    Last edited by sparkie1263; 11-17-2008 at 06:49 AM.
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    Lightbulb The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind ...

    Okay, Frank ...

    If you will recall this discussion (<-click here for instant review session), I discussed the need
    to "lop off the sign" prior to the merge. This eliminates the entire piece altogether and basically
    "sews" the scene together, minus the obstruction, i.e. kind of like crossing your eyes.

    You will probably need full blown Photoshop CS3 for this, because I do not believe Photoshop Elements
    offers the particular selection, "Interactive layout" in their version of the Photomerge utility.

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    My procedure:
    1. Do not make ANY exposure corrections to the images prior to completing the FINAL Photomerge.
      (as these images are supposedly ALL taken at the same EV setting)
    2. Using "Interactive Layout", properly position and Photomerge the first three shots on the right.
    3. Take and "crop off" the sign to the right, as close to the base of it, as possible.
    4. Using "Interactive Layout", properly position and Photomerge the last three shots on the left.
    5. Take and "crop off" the sign to the left, of that panorama, as close to the base of it, as possible.
    6. Using "Interactive Layout", properly position the two new panoramas and Photomerge them together.
    7. Take and "crop out" the final panorama (squaring it up).
    8. Perform detail work (exposure and curves corrections) as necessary to get the image to look the way you
      desire it.


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    Viola! She is done!

    BTW: The rule of thumb here is ... you cannot merge what you can't see. By lopping off the signs (as close as
    possible) prior to the FINAL Photomerge. we effectively merged them right out of the scene. By having a bit of
    the area behind the sign, for the two angles, we had a "matching point" (an anchor -> the rectangular "blind" in
    the background was perfect ) to conduct the Photomerge with.

    I call this "getting ahead of your shot" or framing by conceptualization, seeing what you desire before you trigger
    the shutter to get it.

    Yes, in this case, it required a little more interactive correction ... but, the Photomerge Tool provides for that
    (depending on the version, obviously).

    An excellent lesson in creative photography. Thank you for the opportunity to help, Frank.

    To think ... the amount of arjuous work you would have had to have done, to do this in a darkroom, with an enlarger;
    a magnifying glass; contrast filters; quality papers and print development processes. Whew ... thank goodness that's
    all behind us, eh?

    Frank ... clean that sensor! No more shots until you do.
    Last edited by DonSchap; 11-18-2008 at 10:07 PM.
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    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

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    Thank you for the lesson. I am giving it a try now. I also took these in RAW so I might try to get real creative later and do a HDR of the pano if it can be done.LOL First things first lets see how this comes out. I have a good teacher I have the tools lets see if I can pull it off.

    Thanks again
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    Here is my attempt. How did I do teach. I don't know how to save it bigger.
    Frank

    Last edited by sparkie1263; 11-17-2008 at 06:10 PM.
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    Tamron 60mm Macro
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    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
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    Cool Size problem is with Photobucket referral.

    It is because you are linking to "Photobucket" that the image is limited in overall size. If you went and posted it directly to the DCRP ...
    your panorama would look incredibly better ... and bigger.

    Looks a trifle dark, Frank, but good job. Did my tutorial help at all?

    How do you feel the exercise went? Did you learn a lot doing it ... or was it more annoyance, than worthwhile?
    Last edited by DonSchap; 11-17-2008 at 06:32 PM.
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    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

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    I couldn't have done it without it. It went good. I should have taken the tripod instead of doing this free hand. I like trying different things. This is something I would have never thought of doing.
    Thanks Again
    Frank

    HDR attempt next
    Last edited by sparkie1263; 11-17-2008 at 06:39 PM.
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    Minolta AF 35-70
    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
    Slingshot 200 Bag



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    Thumbs up Yeah ... do it to it!

    Quote Originally Posted by sparkie1263 View Post
    HDR attempt next
    That's the spirit!
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
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    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

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    Don, Dynax Digital forums wants you to make a tutorial on how you had me do this. You can look for my post in the Images to Share section under Pano of hunting shack.
    Thanks Again
    Frank
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    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
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    Here is an HDR attempt.


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    Minolta AF 35-70
    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
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