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    Sony 24-70 f/2.8 CZ

    What’s the story behind the lack of availability of the Sony 24-70 f/2.8 CZ lens? It has been several months and Sony still does not have any. Kind of makes me wonder what is going on!
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    Well, a lot of the test platforms (A900) were using this lens. So, who knows?

    Look, the TAMRON SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di LD Aspherical (IF) is a rather low cost alternative. It works on both the Full Frame A900 & the APS-C sensor DSLRs and should cover the bases well enough to get you through the holidays.

    My only caveat is to make sure you are getting a solid focus out of the TAMRON, because recent findings showed there were some QC-issues that could successfully tweaked out with a subsequent adjustment by TAMRON.

    Good luck.
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    Canon 7D - 5D | 550EX - 430EX II - (2) PW FlexTT5 | 24-105 f4L | 70-200 f2.8L IS | 100 f2.8L IS | 50 f1.8 II

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    Mr. Don,

    I have been very tempted with the Tamron lens because of the reviews on this lens. From what I have read and the reviews, It could be one of the best bangs for the buck in this zoom range.
    Because I already have the Minolta 28-70 f/2.8 G (the better of the two) and Konica/Minolta 28-75 f/2.8 D, I have been holding out for the Zeiss Version.

    I just think it’s very odd and suspicious for Sony NOT to have this lens especially with the release of the Digital 9 (Alpha900). It makes me think that Sony or Zeiss found a problem with the lens and is in the process of correcting the problem.

    Mr. Dr4gon,

    Thanks for the link on the 24-70. I appreciate you.

    Never have I traded with JR dot com but, I did call them tonight and I was told its on backorder. Uggggggh!!!! If not for bad luck, I would not have any luck.

    I think I will just hold off until Sony, B&H Photo, or Adorama have them in stock again.

    If a problem did exist in the first version, like the problem with the loose wobble in the lens fully extended (noted in several reviews), I would prefer to wait on the corrected one.
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    There's nothing wrong with the 24-70. It's built like a tank. All metal construction throughout; only the outer shell is plastic. It's just that they haven't been able to keep up with demand. If you think about it, almost everyone who buys an A900 will get the 24-70 with it (it's basically the kit lens for the A900, albeit an expensive one). Then there's the guys who have an A700 and have been waiting for really good glass for the A-mount. The 24-70 is basically the flagship standard zoom for the A-mount, on the same level as Nikon's 24-70/2.8 and Olympus' 14-35/2. Lots of people want it.

    The 24-70 has been available in limited quantities for a month now. I missed out on the first batch at my dealer, but I asked them to order one for me. It took about a week. The 135/1.8, however, took almost 4 weeks to arrive.

    You can always order from the sonystyle website, as they tend to replenish their stock quickly -- at least in Canada. You'll pay a bit more, but if you want it now, then this is one way to get it.
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    Nikon: D300, D700, Nikkor: 24-70, 70-200, 70-300/VR, 24/2.8, 35/2, 50/1.4G, 60/2.8G, 180/2.8,
    Sigma: 10-20, 50-150/2.8, 50/2.8, Tamron: 17-50/2.8, 28-75/2.8, Tokina: 12-24, Zeiss: 25/2.8
    Olympus: E-520, E-3, 7-14, 9-18, 11-22, 12-60, 14-35/2, 14-54, 35-100/2, 50-200, 25/2.8, 35/3.5, 50/2
    Panasonic: G1, Leica: 14-50, 14-150, 25/1.4
    Sony: A700, A900, 24-85, 35-70, 70-210/4, 20/2.8, 24/2.8, 50/2.8, T 90 macro, Zeiss: 24-70/2.8, 135/1.8
    P&S: Canon S90, Panasonic: LX3


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    Personally, when I went over to Calumet Photographic, they had the CZ 135 f/1.8 in stock and ready to rock ... and I took it. A pricey PRIME, to be sure, but excellent stuff out of it. Roughly a "200mm-shot" on a APS-C sensor body. You just can't duplicate that aperture with that kind of range. So, that kind of makes it unique and qualifiable.

    With the T17-50mm f/2.8 and T28-75mm f/2.8 results I have been able to acheive, I haven't felt the urgent need to run off and plop down $1749 for a duplicate range (CZ 24-70 f/2.8) lens. That's a lot of cash for a hobby shot. In fact ... that is a price-equivalent to buying a T70-200mm f/2.8, a T200-500 f/5-6.3, and a SONY 50mm f/1.4 thrown in. I find it rather hard to rationalize that in the present economy, but then again, some people are not hurtin' for certain!
    Last edited by DonSchap; 11-07-2008 at 06:20 PM.
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    Thanks Mr. E Dawg,

    What you say makes a lot of since. I guess I am used to instant gratification, LOL.

    I placed an order with SonyStyle USA about 5 weeks ago and have yet to receive notification of availability and shipment date. The lens has been on backorder or out of availability for more than 10 weeks. I still say its odd that the Marketing Department at Sony did not see this coming!

    I think its one of three issues……..Either Sony did not expect the number of orders which would come before the release of the Digital 9, the quality control of Zeiss has slowed down the manufacturing process, or there is a problem in the design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Gressette View Post
    I placed an order with SonyStyle USA about 5 weeks ago and have yet to receive notification of availability and shipment date. The lens has been on backorder or out of availability for more than 10 weeks. I still say its odd that the Marketing Department at Sony did not see this coming!
    That is very disappointing. I think I've heard of poor service from SonyStyle USA from a number of people now. Not only regarding getting orders and stock filled in a timely fashion, but repair and service requests too. It appears that they are struggling with providing the kind of pro-level service that people are used to from Canon and other manufacturers, and dealers like B&H that are run with efficiency and organization as top priorities.

    I think its one of three issues……..Either Sony did not expect the number of orders which would come before the release of the Digital 9, the quality control of Zeiss has slowed down the manufacturing process, or there is a problem in the design.
    AJ
    I don't think we should read too much into this. If you are familiar with other brands' product launches (especially Nikons), you may recall all the times new bodies and lenses were backordered and wait listed for many months after they were launched:

    The 18-200/VR, D3, 14-24, 24-70, 70-200/VR, and D300 were all wait listed for 6-8 months after launch.

    The Canon 5DII had a 1-2 month waiting list 2 months ago. Who knows how long it is now.

    Honestly, I am not surprised with the availability of the 24-70 at all. IMO, it is right where it should be for a hot new 24-70/2.8 full-frame Zeiss lens with SSM for a system that didn't have anything comparable until its arrival.

    If Nikon with all their experience in the industry has the exact same supply issues, why would Sony (the new guy, relatively speaking) have it all ironed out so quickly?

    Nikon: D300, D700, Nikkor: 24-70, 70-200, 70-300/VR, 24/2.8, 35/2, 50/1.4G, 60/2.8G, 180/2.8,
    Sigma: 10-20, 50-150/2.8, 50/2.8, Tamron: 17-50/2.8, 28-75/2.8, Tokina: 12-24, Zeiss: 25/2.8
    Olympus: E-520, E-3, 7-14, 9-18, 11-22, 12-60, 14-35/2, 14-54, 35-100/2, 50-200, 25/2.8, 35/3.5, 50/2
    Panasonic: G1, Leica: 14-50, 14-150, 25/1.4
    Sony: A700, A900, 24-85, 35-70, 70-210/4, 20/2.8, 24/2.8, 50/2.8, T 90 macro, Zeiss: 24-70/2.8, 135/1.8
    P&S: Canon S90, Panasonic: LX3


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    Quote Originally Posted by DonSchap View Post
    Personally, when I went over to Calumet Photographic, they had the CZ 135 f/1.8 in stock and ready to rock ... and I took it. A pricey PRIME, to be sure, but excellent stuff out of it. Roughly a "200mm-shot" on a APS-C sensor body. You just can't duplicate that aperture with that kind of range. So, that kind of makes it unique and qualifiable.
    Congrats Don! It is this unique capability that caught my eye and got me interested in Sony. I never considered Sony as a potential choice until I saw what the 135/1.8 could do. This is the type of lens you buy into a system for... much like the Nikon 14-24 and the Olympus 7-14 before it.

    Nikon: D300, D700, Nikkor: 24-70, 70-200, 70-300/VR, 24/2.8, 35/2, 50/1.4G, 60/2.8G, 180/2.8,
    Sigma: 10-20, 50-150/2.8, 50/2.8, Tamron: 17-50/2.8, 28-75/2.8, Tokina: 12-24, Zeiss: 25/2.8
    Olympus: E-520, E-3, 7-14, 9-18, 11-22, 12-60, 14-35/2, 14-54, 35-100/2, 50-200, 25/2.8, 35/3.5, 50/2
    Panasonic: G1, Leica: 14-50, 14-150, 25/1.4
    Sony: A700, A900, 24-85, 35-70, 70-210/4, 20/2.8, 24/2.8, 50/2.8, T 90 macro, Zeiss: 24-70/2.8, 135/1.8
    P&S: Canon S90, Panasonic: LX3


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    I do appreciate your stating this ... and ask you to be so kind as to participate in the newest poll on the forum. Your contribution would be insightful and quite perfect for the survey's intent.

    Thanks
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    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

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