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  1. #41
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    Well, I can get donuts out of other lenses, too. That's not an issue, but what is ... is focal sharpness in my book.

    I looked at the reviews and what they were complaining about, with such a tight aperture, some of the outer focusing points become ineffective. With that f/7.2 vs the Reflex f/8 ... weight-wise I would wind up with the Reflex.

    When you throw the 200-500mm into the mix, screw the weight. At 43 ounces, it's pretty balanced for its length and easy to use. Zooming in and out is always an asset to me, because I really do not enjoy having to move back away or in on something natural. Birds take off, animals bolt and the rangers come over and yell at you. LOL

    Ah me ... that's the way I see it, for what it is worth.
    Last edited by DonSchap; 10-30-2008 at 02:59 PM.
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  2. #42
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    Okay, I went back to the Historical Society's House with the TAMRON SP AF 200-500mm f/5-6.3 Di LD lens to shoot at 300mm. I have added the shot to the three from the other lenses. Yes, it is "handheld", just as the others were.

    You tell me what you want in your lens bag for Christmas?

    Click this LINK, it 'll take you right back to the images in this thread.

    Have a hay-day!
    Last edited by DonSchap; 10-30-2008 at 03:00 PM.
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    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

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  3. #43
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    that TAMRON SP AF 200-500mm f/5-6.3 Di LD Super Zoom @ 300mm is crazy sharp.
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  4. #44
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    Anybody want to buy my Tamron 70-300. LOL Wow I am going to get a lens for indoor shooting than I will get one of these. Thanks Don for the testing. I guess the 70-300 isn't that sharp.
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  5. #45
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    wow that's pretty dang sharp! thanks!

    What aperture were you shooting at? f/8? and was the sign your focus point?
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  6. #46
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    Details ...

    Okay, yes, as with all the comparison shots, the sign was the subject, at 300mm it's about all that fits nicely into the frame.

    I just showed the house in the earlier posting in order to give you all an idea of the relative distance and location,

    Original shot, resized
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    EXIF: A700 w/ TAMRON SP AF 200-500mm f/5-6.3 Di LD
    @ 300mm f/5.6 1/250 sec ISO-800 AWB-Daylight

    The image is a little overexposed, but that's what you get when you shoot in AUTO and let the camera decide your shot. I was just looking for focusing results and I want to emulate a standard shooting situation that everyone could do. If I spent ten minutes setting up the shot, that really is wasted time for this exercise and people start to gawk, when you have a lens this large hanging off your ciamera ... in the middle of the downtown apartment/condo area. LOL Who's spying on who?

    * Important Note: You guys need to know that the minimum focusing distance (M.F.D.) for this lens is 10-feet! You will be across the room, no matter what focal length you pick ... and are going to need a bigger bag.
    Last edited by DonSchap; 10-30-2008 at 03:11 PM.
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
    A Photographer Is Forever
    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonSchap View Post
    Okay, yes, as with all the comparison shots, the sign was the subject, at 300mm it's about all that fits nicely into the frame.

    I just showed the house in the earlier posting in order to give you all an idea of the relative distance and location,

    Original shot, resized
    Name:  Historical-Society-Sign.jpg
Views: 52
Size:  420.5 KB
    EXIF: A700 w/ TAMRON SP AF 200-500mm f/5-6.3 Di LD
    @ 300mm f/5.6 1/250 sec ISO-800 AWB-Daylight

    The image is a little overexposed, but that's what you get when you shoot in AUTO and let the camera decide your shot. I was just looking for focusing results and I want to emulate a standard shooting situation that everyone could do. If I spent ten minutes setting up the shot, that really is wasted time for this exercise and people start to gawk, when you have a lens this large hanging off your ciamera ... in the middle of the downtown apartment/condo area. LOL Who's spying on who?

    * Important Note: You guys need to know that the minimum focusing distance (M.F.D.) for this lens is 10-feet! You will be across the room, no matter what focal length you pick ... and are going to need a bigger bag.
    Great thanks, I thought something was strange. Yeah, 200-500 is definitely an outdoors bright light lens.
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  8. #48
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    Still not letting go of my Tamron 70-300 it's still a great lens for the price!! But that 200 - 500 keeps moving up on the top ten things to buy list!
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    Minolta AF 70-210mm F/3.5-4.5 Tamron AF 17-50mm F/2.8 XR DiII LD Asp. [IF]
    Tamron SP AF 70-200mm. F/2.8 DI LD [IF] Macro
    Tamron AF 70-300mm F/4-5.6 Di LD Macro 1:2
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  9. #49
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    Look long ... then buy it. It delivers the image and that's all she wrote.

    Like I may have mentioned, this lens is not convenient, but it is far lighter than most long PRIMES and covers the spread, provided you have decent lighting. A true "sleeper lens" because many people do not take it seriously, until they actually shoot through it. Then ... they do.

    Good luck and hope you enjoy it. I know I have, twice now (two different mounts).
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
    A Photographer Is Forever
    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

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  10. #50
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    Don does it come with a real lens case or one of those Tamron stuff sacks LOL. Also while I am thinking about it what model Lowepro case did you get for the 70-200? and you also have the Tokina 80-400 riding external on your bag also, what case is it in?
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    Tamron SP AF 70-200mm. F/2.8 DI LD [IF] Macro
    Tamron AF 70-300mm F/4-5.6 Di LD Macro 1:2
    Tokina AF 28-70mm F/3.5-4.5
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