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  1. #31
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    What would be a good side by side shooting activity Don for my 70-300 and Tokina 80-400? looks like fun. I feel lucky that I was able to snag a Tokina pretty quickly at a fair price, that lens does rock, But it is heavy and really likes the light. I would advise getting one if you can, and have a need for the range, be a shame to have it and not use it! I used the tamron 70-300 last night with the 'low light' settings we talked about in another thread. A gym with the lights turned off! very soft low low lights and glow sticks. ISO 3200, images almost acceptable.
    Sony A700_____________Minolta AF 50mm. F/1.7
    Minolta AF 70-210mm F/3.5-4.5 Tamron AF 17-50mm F/2.8 XR DiII LD Asp. [IF]
    Tamron SP AF 70-200mm. F/2.8 DI LD [IF] Macro
    Tamron AF 70-300mm F/4-5.6 Di LD Macro 1:2
    Tokina AF 28-70mm F/3.5-4.5
    Tokina AF AT-X 80-400mm F/4.5-5.6
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonSchap View Post
    Anyway, it is what it is. Good luck.

    Oh, one other thought. If your really want sharp shots at 300mm, 400mm or even 500mm ... I highly recommend the TAMRON SP AF 200-500mm f/5-6.3 Di LD (IF) lens. Now this is a piece of glass that is lightweight, flexible as all get out and sharp as they come for the price. A true "sleeper" lens for people wanting some serious reach in their bag. It is no shorty, but definitely worth a LONG look, if you can find a store that has one. It is definitely a full sun optic ... but delivers excellent images!





    I'm kind of sorry I didn't take it along for these evaluation shots. That would have been cool.


    WHAT'S IN YOUR CAMERA BAG?
    I was about to bring that lens up.

    I cannot decide what to wish for for Christmas!

    I'm sure you could have hand-held those airshow shots right?
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanhoxx View Post
    What would be a good side by side shooting activity, Don, for my 70-300 and Tokina 80-400? Looks like fun. I feel lucky that I was able to snag a Tokina pretty quickly at a fair price, that lens does rock, But, it is heavy and really likes the light. I would advise getting one, if you can, and have a need for the range, be a shame to have it and not use it! I used the tamron 70-300, last night, with the 'low light' settings we talked about in another thread. A gym with the lights turned off! very soft low low lights and glow sticks. ISO 3200, images almost acceptable.
    At long range, the Tokina and TAMRON are almost identical, except the Tokina is a little darker from 250mm to 280mm, as it is at f/5.6 and the TAMRON is still at f/5 the sliding maximum aperture. Problem is ... 300mm f/5.6 is where it all ends for TAMRON ... and you still can get an f/5.6 shot @ 400mm with the Tokina, and see the twinkle in her eye you would have probably missed. LOL
    Last edited by DonSchap; 10-29-2008 at 09:16 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr4gon View Post
    I'm sure you could have hand-held those airshow shots right?
    Actually, the two pictures, above, are from successive years at Oshkosh. If you look close, in the upper one (2007), I had a Canon EOS 20D that the TAMRON 200-500 (Canon-mount) was mounted on.

    In 2008, this "Raptor" shot was hand held at 1/2000 sec with that lens (SONY-mount), on the SONY A700. That was the main reason I went with SONY, to kind of eliminate the need for tripods ... and at 1/2000 second, who the heck needs one, anyway? I shut off the darn SSS and fire away!
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
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    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

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    And to throw into the mix I saw a Sigma 500mm on ebay today it's AF and like a f/7 - 8.5 or something, let me find a link.
    ahhh Christmas lists, I am torn between the 200-500, or the HVL 58 !! if I go with the lens I will "have" to get a good monopod and plate.
    Sony A700_____________Minolta AF 50mm. F/1.7
    Minolta AF 70-210mm F/3.5-4.5 Tamron AF 17-50mm F/2.8 XR DiII LD Asp. [IF]
    Tamron SP AF 70-200mm. F/2.8 DI LD [IF] Macro
    Tamron AF 70-300mm F/4-5.6 Di LD Macro 1:2
    Tokina AF 28-70mm F/3.5-4.5
    Tokina AF AT-X 80-400mm F/4.5-5.6
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    http://cgi.ebay.com/MINOLTA-or-SONY-...d=p3286.c0.m14
    Now that looks like a big piece of glass!
    Sony A700_____________Minolta AF 50mm. F/1.7
    Minolta AF 70-210mm F/3.5-4.5 Tamron AF 17-50mm F/2.8 XR DiII LD Asp. [IF]
    Tamron SP AF 70-200mm. F/2.8 DI LD [IF] Macro
    Tamron AF 70-300mm F/4-5.6 Di LD Macro 1:2
    Tokina AF 28-70mm F/3.5-4.5
    Tokina AF AT-X 80-400mm F/4.5-5.6
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    The 200-500mm lens will offer reach beyond your current selection. It is also a sharp shooter. If you need to get close, across a field, from the grandstand, this baby is the choice (Graduation ceremonies - hint, hint).

    A flash isn't of much use, there.

    If you are planning a lot of indoor stuff, the long tube won't offer much use. That flash could really come in handy. It is the wintertime. Yeah, that's what I say ... "GET BOTH!"
    Last edited by DonSchap; 10-30-2008 at 01:57 PM.
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    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

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    Exclamation Before you bid ...

    Quote Originally Posted by seanhoxx View Post
    http://cgi.ebay.com/MINOLTA-or-SONY-...d=p3286.c0.m14
    Now that looks like a big piece of glass!
    Sean, read these reviews ... I think it may be a lot more trouble to use than you realize. It is 2.4 lbs. or almost 40 ounces. About the same as the TAMRON 70-200mm f/2.8 or the 200-500mm f/5-6.3
    Last edited by DonSchap; 10-29-2008 at 09:30 PM.
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
    A Photographer Is Forever
    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

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    LOL don't worry Don not bidding on it, I think I am a set Tamron / Minolta fan, and maybe a Tokina here and there. I also thought the Sony cato. 500mm f8 was the only 500mm fixed lens in alpha mount?
    Sony A700_____________Minolta AF 50mm. F/1.7
    Minolta AF 70-210mm F/3.5-4.5 Tamron AF 17-50mm F/2.8 XR DiII LD Asp. [IF]
    Tamron SP AF 70-200mm. F/2.8 DI LD [IF] Macro
    Tamron AF 70-300mm F/4-5.6 Di LD Macro 1:2
    Tokina AF 28-70mm F/3.5-4.5
    Tokina AF AT-X 80-400mm F/4.5-5.6
    http://flickr.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanhoxx View Post
    LOL don't worry Don not bidding on it, I think I am a set Tamron / Minolta fan, and maybe a Tokina here and there. I also thought the Sony cato. 500mm f8 was the only 500mm fixed lens in alpha mount?
    yeah the reflex lens. from what I've seen, I'm not too impressed with it. the bokeh also results in a donut lol
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