Bustin' on the "kit lens"

[laydros]

Slight correction here, Totus has the Minolta AF 35-70mm f/3.5-5.6, not to be confused with the much superior 35-70mm f/4. This is preferable to the 24-50mm for range but sharpness is comparable.

I missed that. I'm familiar with the other one (actually had one for about a week), but saw 35-70 somewhere and didn't think about that other one. From what I have seen the 3.5-5.6 is basically on the same quality level as the Sony kit lens.

As for the A100 with kit glass, etc. If you can use the extra body, seems like a good deal, but I wouldn't count on getting much for the glass. I'm having a tough time selling my practically brand new SAL75300 right now.

Certainly try to get that Tamron 17-50mm. That's (more or less) what I'm aiming to get now as well.

[DonSchap]

If you are waiting to sell your "kit" lens, good luck. As long as they are practically giving them away in the cereal box ... customers will be hard to find. Personally, I would not wiait ... but get your new lens, because you need it when? Oh, that's right ... you need it NOW! The better images are not going to wait around for you to finally get that "kit" lens sold. They just vanish.

Photography is kind of a front-end-loaded hobby, you cannot do much if you don't have the glass and equipment to do it with. It's just the nature of the beast. If you could get it all done with one lens ... why would anyone carry a bag o' glass?

[Peekayoh]

"Peek': Peter, we simply have to get you into some newer glass, man. LOL You need to know what this new stuff can do for you. Were not making this up!

I hear you, Don. I really don't have anything against a modern lens even if I don't own one yet.
I am still waiting for the Sony 70-300mm f4.5-5.6 G SSM to arrive but I've now had dispatch notification.
That doesn't mean that I'll be chucking out the old lenses anytime soon.

This image is from my ancient MD mount 50mm Macro. Yes I could replace it with a $500 Sony but why would I?

[laydros]

I hear you, Don. I really don't have anything against a modern lens even if I don't own one yet.
I am still waiting for the Sony 70-300mm f4.5-5.6 G SSM to arrive but I've now had dispatch notification.
That doesn't mean that I'll be chucking out the old lenses anytime soon.

This image is from my ancient MD mount 50mm Macro. Yes I could replace it with a $500 Sony but why would I?

Very nice. You and dr4gon are going to convince me to get a real macro lens soon. But that 17-50mm is next. I think I'm going to at least hold out till middle of next week, I've seen rumors of Sony releasing a 16-55 f/2.8 (or something like that) and if the price isn't much more, it might be worth it to get that. I expect resell value would be better, and I would appreciate the extra range. I'd love to just carry my beercan and whatever "normal DT zoom" I pick up, instead of the 5 or so lenses I tend to keep in my bag now. If there is another 5mm, it helps a little.

And, to be honest, I'm also curious if we will see some new bodies announced from the other players, or maybe even if that report of no new Sony's wasn't legit.

Edit: One of the rumor references is here but I think there were some at dyxum as well.

And I forgot to add, I'm excited to see what Peek thinks of, and can do with, that G telephoto. It is supposed to be a spectacular lens.

[Elisha]

so Jason, you're not switching systems?
btw i can't wait to use my beercan.

[DonSchap]

"Kit" lenses are changing ... but for the moment ... change off the DT AF 18-70mm f/3.5-5.6 and make your photography improve by leaps and bounds.