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    Zoo Pics

    Went to the zoo yesterday and it was quite an experience! I don't think I've ever had so much fun at a zoo in a long time!

    Felt like a kid again.

    There's way too many to post, so please check my flickr set here.











    Tamron 90/2.8 (closest I could get to don's awesome parrot picture with his 135/1.8 ZA)


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    Last edited by dr4gon; 09-27-2008 at 07:03 PM.
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    The competition: canikonians what else?

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    One other lady with a monopod/big lens combo in the back.

    I was tempted to ask if I could stick my camera on their tripod since I had the RC2 plate in, but the lady with the bogen ball head seemed to have a different mount, so I decided to stick with SSS anyways.

    This eagle was also really cool!




    I was pleasantly surprised how well the 70-300 did even without a tripod and for it's quality/price. I really want a better zoom lens though now. I'm thinking a 70-200/2.8 eventually ...

    How much better would the 18-250/3.5-6.3 be over the 70-300 at similar ranges? (70/90/135/180/200mm etc....?)
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    You did a great job I like all of them. You gotta love that 70-300 for the price. I think you should try to move your copyright to the other side of some of the pictures. Like the the Eagle and the lizard you should move to the left side.
    Frank
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkie1263 View Post
    You did a great job I like all of them.
    Frank
    +1. very nice set. i really like the leopard and gorilla.
    i think you may be forcing Don to pull out all the stops here. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkie1263 View Post
    You did a great job I like all of them. You gotta love that 70-300 for the price. I think you should try to move your copyright to the other side of some of the pictures. Like the the Eagle and the lizard you should move to the left side.
    Frank
    Ah, it's automated sorry lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rooz View Post
    +1. very nice set. i really like the leopard and gorilla.
    i think you may be forcing Don to pull out all the stops here. lol
    I want his lens (70-200/2.8)! I felt so inadequate .... but still confident compared to those ladies. Everyone had either a 200/2.8 or a 70-200. One of these days...
    Last edited by dr4gon; 09-27-2008 at 07:10 PM.
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    Don't make me go out and buy a CZ 24-70mm f/2.8 on ya! LOL

    @ 'Rooz': I think the SONY crew is shaping up really well. These guys are workin' the camera with glass that is not suppose to deliver this kind of quality. I guess there is hope, eh?

    Good job, dudes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonSchap View Post
    Don't make me go out and buy a CZ 24-70mm f/2.8 on ya! LOL

    @ 'Rooz': I think the SONY crew is shaping up really well. These guys are workin' the camera with glass that is not suppose to deliver this kind of quality. I guess there is hope, eh?

    Good job, dudes!
    noooo, lol


    Hey don, how much better would the 18-250 be over my 70-300 in terms of IQ. That and the 70-200 are make next "to-buy" lenses.
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    The 18-250 is a different class lens. In the utility class, I would say it is without peer ... but, there are others might disagree with different manufacturers. On the SONY DSLR ... it holds its own.

    The mission of the 70-300 versus the 18-250 is just different. The 70-300 is usually an inexpensive telephoto. It is not particularly fast to focus, but for $150 ... what can you expect? Those SSM motors cost some money. The SONY 70-300 f/4.5-5.6 G SSM costs nearly eight bills! SONY is an exception, there, as normally, you go to a 70-200 lens to improve on it, to get faster aperture and focus speed.

    The 18-250 is a lens for all seasons ... where it is the only lens you have with you, such as on a vacation, or a jaunt out with the kids, where carrying a lens bag is impractical. I call it a "mom lens", because of its practical and utilitarian nature. Like I said, it is currently the best one in the utilitarian class (IQ-wise) out there, in my opinion. A lot of people are very impressed by this "Grab & Go"

    I hope this is helpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonSchap View Post
    The 18-250 is a different class lens. In the utility class, I would say it is without peer ... but, there are others might disagree with different manufacturers. On the SONY DSLR ... it holds its own.

    The mission of the 70-300 versus the 18-250 is just different. The 70-300 is usually an inexpensive telephoto. It is not particularly fast to focus, but for $150 ... what can you expect? Those SSM motors cost some money. The SONY 70-300 f/4.5-5.6 G SSM costs nearly eight bills! SONY is an exception, there, as normally, you go to a 70-200 lens to improve on it, to get faster aperture and focus speed.

    The 18-250 is a lens for all seasons ... where it is the only lens you have with you, such as on a vacation, or a jaunt out with the kids, where carrying a lens bag is impractical. I call it a "mom lens", because of its practical and utilitarian nature. Like I said, it is currently the best one in the utilitarian class (IQ-wise) out there, in my opinion. A lot of people are very impressed by this "Grab & Go"

    I hope this is helpful.
    It is sort of. I was thinking of selling the 70-300 off to fund a 17-250mm and get a 70-200/2.8 by Christmas. Seems like at 300mm the Tamron just isn't sharp at all so I see no point in keeping it around if I would be shooting at the ~200mm length. That's my reasoning anyway. And when I do use the 70-300, it's always outdoors with decent lighting so the 18-250mm shouldn't have a problem keeping up. And then with the 70-200/2.8, I got low light and nice sharpness covered. The 18-250 would also be for vacations (going up to Toronto, Canada for Christmas).

    I was also considering the Sony hvl-f42am flash. Perhaps I should put that off till later until I can get the lenses I want (two I mentioned). After all I rarely do indoor shots or things requiring flash (although I did use the pop-up flash at the zoo to help a bit with shadows). And for indoor/lowlight, I have my 17-50/2.8 and 50/1.7 prime.

    Decisions, decisions....
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    I guess I just never considered selling lenses as a part of the plan. Weird, huh? Selling my 70-300 just doesn't seem to be worth the effort. Frank's already got one ... along with darn near everyone else on here. It's probably the one lens we all have in common.

    I may have already suggested a standard lens outfit ... I know I did on the Dynax Digital forum ... which was met with great accolade.

    Here is the bulk of the list from that posting:

    "My personal short list of available glass or "upcoming relases" goes like this:

    Reasonable alternatives:
    "Single lens" solutions (not necessarily by price)
    1) TAMRON AF 18-250mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di-II LD Aspherical (IF)
    1a) SONY DT 18-250mm f/3.5-6.3
    2) SONY SAL-24105 - 24-105mm f/3.5-4.5

    "Twin lens" solutions (medium cost)
    1) SONY SAL-1680Z - Carl Zeiss® Vario-Sonnar T* DT 16-80mm f/3.5-4.5 & SAL-70300G 70-300mm f4.5-5.6
    2) TAMRON SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 XR Di-II LD Aspherical (IF) & TAMRON SP AF 70-200mm f/2.8 Di LD Aspherical (IF) MACRO

    The pricier ideas (termed "professional"):
    "Twin lens" solution:
    SONY SAL-2470Z 24-70mm f2.8 & SAL-70200G - 70-200mm f/2.8 G

    The medium cost "Ultra lens bag" - Four lenses
    1) TAMRON SP AF 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5 Di-II LD (IF) or SONY DT 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5 (when available)
    2) SONY SAL-1680Z - Carl Zeiss® Vario-Sonnar T* DT 16-80mm f/3.5-4.5
    2a) TAMRON SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di LD Aspherical (IF) MACRO
    2b) TAMRON SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 XR Di-II LD Aspherical (IF)
    3) TAMRON SP AF 70-200mm f/2.8 Di LD Aspherical (IF) MACRO
    4) TAMRON SP AF 200-500mm f/5-6.3 Di LD (IF)

    I'm not even going to recommend the lesser lenses ... because, I cannot see why anyone would want to buy a new lens to shoot inferior images, if they can avoid it. Sure you can use them ... then complain about results. My feeling is: Spend the extra couple of hundred and "shoot happy." It's a long road ... and just MY opinion. You are eagerly encouraged to have one of your very own. "


    Remember, the idea behind this is to get good glass in your bag ("good glass" lacks little in resolving good images). We all know that the 70-300mm f/4-5.6 is not the "be-all-end-all" lens! LOL It works, sometimes ... but, you have to have daylight for the most part. Well, the sun might have something to say about that, after 5PM. It's usually non-negotiable.


    For knockin' around ... when you just cannot be bothered, the 18-250mm f/3.5-6.3 just makes life easier (and yes, you can make due with the pop-up for short stuff).
    Last edited by DonSchap; 09-28-2008 at 01:07 PM.
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    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

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