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  1. #21
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    No ... not the A900 ... there are other issues going on (aka A800). Anyway ... I'm waiting this one out. If SONY will not be clear with their direction ... I will with mine! I'm merciless that way.
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonSchap View Post
    No ... not the A900 ... there are other issues going on (aka A800). Anyway ... I'm waiting this one out. If SONY will not be clear with their direction ... I will with mine! I'm merciless that way.
    I see. I think sony really screwed up the naming system with the flagship being what it is at the a900. They really left little room for future models, unless of course they convert to the SONY βeta 100!
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    Yeah ... LOL

    In a way ... they needed to attract attention to the camera line. I feel there have been a number of significant mistakes they have made in timing and approach. Canon and Nikon are learning some lessons, as the market shakes ... but they still have not accepted in-the-body anti-shake, which would nearly eliminate SONY's continued growth in the market.

    Once you demonstrate that capability ... customers usually make a decision and SONY has another customer. It is the lensing that is going keep them at bay, though. It's just to hard to justify unless you really know what you are looking for in an image. The untrained eye just will not buy into $1000+ lenses. SONY's decision to lock out the third party seems a little too prima-donna for their intro cameras and the kit lenses aren't really good enough to do much with, after the first couple of months. Camera bodies are getting so cheap, people figure they can just "jump ship", to another camera line, in order to get really good third party offerings.

    Makes me shake my head ...

    No ... my brakes are on hold ... and my bag is pretty full, now. They are really going to have to do something absolutely substantial for me to open my wallet, again, in any kind of a big way.
    Last edited by DonSchap; 10-14-2008 at 10:03 PM.
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
    A Photographer Is Forever
    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

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  4. #24
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    Just when I was thinking about pulling the triger on the A700 you throw me a curve ball.
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    Choices are made without further info all the time. I'm just not making one, this time.

    The A700 is a great camera ... and the financial situation just doesn't feed the need to make an upgrade from it. If I have to sit on a plateau ... the A700 ain't bad one to work from.
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
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  6. #26
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    Frank one can always hope we may see some price reductions going ointo the holiday season to stimulate buying. I wonder if there may be some 700's going up for sale or being traded in towards 900? I would think people would keep there other alpha as "backup" if they were going for a 900.
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    Well, I had mentioned that the A700 went back to Connecticut, because they had FAILED to repair it, as I asked, the first time. Oh yeah, they did replace my SENSOR ... but that was not the only issue with the camera. The upper control assembly, that has the two thumbwheels (front and rear) on it had become defective and was "racing" through the control settings and image playback when the rear thumbwheel got to one particular spot.

    Well enough was enough, and after Christmas, I boxed it back up and it went back, at their cost. Today, they notified me it has been "repaired" again. LOL Okay ... I guess we shall see. This is not the kind of repair quality I am used to. It attests to the lack of a thorough final test. I sent a document with the camera, explaining the specific problem ... and it was like it was ignored. "SOMEBODY KNEW BETTER", right?

    Well ... I'll let you all know. If it still acts up ... SONY better be ready to explain why. I have $5000 in glass sitting idle. (Shhh, don't say anything about the A100)
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
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    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonSchap View Post
    I sent a document with the camera, explaining the specific problem ... and it was like it was ignored. "SOMEBODY KNEW BETTER", right?
    i did the exact same thing with a laptop recently with the exact same result. some moron decided they knew better. needless to say when it was returned the exact same problem i had before hand continued to be there. i got a refund for the whole laptop, (11months old), and will never buy Toshiba again.

    this is a symptom not of any corporation or market in particular, its the way the world has gone. follow a checklist, never think for yourself and the customer be damned.
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    Man, your sensor was replaced too? I didn't know that. That sounds pretty severe. Hopefully someone followed the checklist this time!
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  10. #30
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    Hey Don with any luck they screwed up and stuffed the 24mp sensor in the body, well maybe the 14 at least!
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    Tamron AF 70-300mm F/4-5.6 Di LD Macro 1:2
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