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  1. #1
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    Which lens should I use??

    I am going to attempt a family portrait for my wifes birthday coming up next month and would like to know what lens should I use? I am thinking of taking it outside. Should I use a tripod? I have other questions I will ask later.
    Thanks Frank
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    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
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    Set the 70-300 to about 85mm & f/4 ... then back up.

    oops, that's for single subject portraits.

    Uh Frank ... you may have to resort to the "kit" lens, since your lens options are limited. Good luck
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
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  3. #3
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    Would my minolta lens be a better choice? Or should I just get about 30 feet away and use the 70-300? Should I use a small aperture? If I use the ocean as a background do I want to use a bigger aperture. Hold on because here come the questions. LOL What focus setting should I use?
    Frank
    Last edited by sparkie1263; 08-20-2008 at 02:27 PM.
    Sony A77
    Sony A580
    Sony A 100
    Maxxum 400si.
    Sony 18-70 Kit Lens
    Minolta AF 35-70
    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
    Slingshot 200 Bag



    http://www.flickr.com/photos/22083244@N06/

    http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/

  4. #4
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    Frank,

    YOU, my friend, are the photographer. Some decisions are best left done in the field.

    The perfect lens for this you do not have. Perhaps you could borrow one. Either the KM 17-35mm f/2.8-4 or a TAMRON 17-50mm f/2.8

    That would be the ticket, in my estimation. You called the shot ... LOL "Family portrait" ... "with the ocean as a background"

    Daytime? Nightime? Dusk?

    Sun overhead? Behind? Setting? Moonlight?

    I would stick with "spot focus", at f/4 or f/5.6 ... if lighting allows. That way you will have some softening of the ocean behind everyone ... yet will not lose focus of the group. I would magnify and examine the end folks, though, just to make sure their faces are not a blur. And, yeah, use a tripod.

    (Personally, I would take this shot several times, at a couple of settings, to eliminate eye blink and the "I wasn't ready" crowd members. It is supposed to be a "keeper!")
    Last edited by DonSchap; 08-20-2008 at 02:38 PM.
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
    A Photographer Is Forever
    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

    flickr & Sdi

  5. #5
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    I guess you are right. I have alot of thinking to do. I better get started.
    Thanks
    Frank
    Sony A77
    Sony A580
    Sony A 100
    Maxxum 400si.
    Sony 18-70 Kit Lens
    Minolta AF 35-70
    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
    Slingshot 200 Bag



    http://www.flickr.com/photos/22083244@N06/

    http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/

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    You want to hear something I just caught wind of, Frank. It is rumored that the A900 will be able to use APS-C (Di-II) lenses!

    Uh ... uh ... my heart! LOL

    Can you imagine? If this is true ... I just bought three lenses for absolutely no reason at all! Holy night! I guess we shall see, huh? That would be rude ... and a really cool way to get everyone to upgrade. Talk about forward thinking. I'd really have to give them credit for that move.

    Good lord, what am I going to do with all this extra Di-glass?
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
    A Photographer Is Forever
    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

    flickr & Sdi

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    How can you find out if this is true? There should be some info out there. What is the release date? They got you in a panic. You could have payed for half the camera already just in the glass you bought.
    Frank
    Sony A77
    Sony A580
    Sony A 100
    Maxxum 400si.
    Sony 18-70 Kit Lens
    Minolta AF 35-70
    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
    Slingshot 200 Bag



    http://www.flickr.com/photos/22083244@N06/

    http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/

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    Well, the glass is certainly usable ... it just duplicated. In fact, all of the Di-lenses work on my 35mm-film bodies, to be honest, where the Di-II and APC-S only lenses do not. It's not a complete loss, if this is indeed the case. In fact, it is kind of amazing (if true), because no other camera body does this, that I know of.

    Still ... rather annoying. SONY could have announced this "little factoid" at the PMA 2008. This will make the 17-50mm f/2.8 even more desireable for everyone.

    Like I said, we shall see.
    Last edited by DonSchap; 08-20-2008 at 04:08 PM.
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
    A Photographer Is Forever
    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

    flickr & Sdi

  9. #9
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    So Sony's figured out a way to maybe use aps-c designed lenses on a full frame sensor without vignetting?

    And perhaps I didn't notice but are all the "Di" lenses for FF/APS-C cameras and the "Di-II" lenses for just APS-C cameras? Would make sense from the lenses I have lol.... I thought the "Di-II" was a higher grade of glass since they seemed more expensive.

    Anyways, back on topic, looks like you have your work cut out for you Frank! I think I read focusing 1/3 through is the best for group portraits, but I forgot what aperture they recommend, maybe something like f8 or f10-11?

    Don, you recommended the 17-50/2.8 for portraits. I think 35mm is the sharpest, but what were you thinking in terms of settings for such a task?
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    Don what about the tamron 90mm for a group portrait like that? maybe Frank could rent one to try. rent it one weekend to practice, and then again for when to use it. Intersting about the lenses and the FF, could be rumor, if not, lens sale at Don's??

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