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  1. #811
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    Don,

    How close is that feeder? 54mm you either cropped it close or the bird is right there. Best I can do is get them about 8 feet away. Sitting at breakfast today and the local Coopers Hawk landed right on the deck railing. Couldn't get to the camera in time. He'll be back as I see him in the yard eyeing the wrens and chickdees...

  2. #812
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    The feeder is hung right outside the patio door, that puts it two feet from the glass and maybe another three and a half feet from the camera

    I leave one camera on the tripod at the ready all the time, he, he..

    For this last shot I tried something different. I backed off to 54mm with the 50-200 to see if I could get a larger dof and a better chance of focus with more shots.

    The original 4032 image was cropped to 1329 and then resized to 700 wide.

    Good luck with the Hawk, eh?

    Cheers, Don
    Don Kondra - Furniture Designer/Maker
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  3. #813
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    Just for comparison, I also shot this today with the 50-200 + ec 20, full overcast mid afternoonish.

    Woody was about forty feet away and this is the same crop, etc. as my last chickadee shot.

    Notice the crazy bokeh, this is fairly typical of the 50-200 with this type of background.

    1/1250, f6.8, shutter priority, iso 320, 364mm.



    Cheers, Don
    Don Kondra - Furniture Designer/Maker
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    Olympus E-3 ~ E-30
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  4. #814
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    Quote Originally Posted by kgosden View Post
    builder, I think that is one of the best you have posted.
    Ditto. Very nice.

  5. #815
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    Don,

    I think that the crazy bokeh has more to do with shooting through double pane patio doors. It looks remarkably similar to what I get from the 70-300 through my double pane doors. I am guessing it is also the source of my loss of sharpness overall. It shows up more in the out of focus areas as that double edged bokeh. I would bet it has some relationship to the spacing of the panes and the distance from the center of focus.

  6. #816
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    Hey all, I swear I'm still alive.
    Now that both the Olympics and RRSP season are over, perhaps I might actually be allowed to take my camera places.

    For now, bird pictures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kgosden View Post
    Don,

    I think that the crazy bokeh has more to do with shooting through double pane patio doors. It looks remarkably similar to what I get from the 70-300 through my double pane doors. I am guessing it is also the source of my loss of sharpness overall. It shows up more in the out of focus areas as that double edged bokeh. I would bet it has some relationship to the spacing of the panes and the distance from the center of focus.
    I don't think so, this is shot off my deck today. Not through glass. The 50-200 is notorious for this effect with grass, inter locking branches, etc. in the bokeh.



    I did not notice this with my 70-300. This was one of my first tests of that lens.



    Cheers, Don
    Last edited by Don Kondra; 03-01-2010 at 04:47 PM.
    Don Kondra - Furniture Designer/Maker
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    ZD 50 ~ 7-14 ~ 14-35 ~ 14-54 ~ 12-60 ~ 35-100 ~ 50-200 ~ EC 20
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  8. #818
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    That is some pretty crazy bokeh. Is this a 100% crop? It seems as if the focus in not quite on, like maybe it's on the small twig in front of the bird and not the bird.

  9. #819
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    As I said, the crop of the woodpecker shot is the same as the chickadee shot.

    The original 4032 image was cropped to 1329 and then resized to 700 wide.

    As to focus, all I can say is it was a snap shot but I'm sure the focus point was on the birds body. Even at 1/1250 it may not have froze the head movement

    Cheers, Don
    Last edited by Don Kondra; 03-01-2010 at 06:40 PM.
    Don Kondra - Furniture Designer/Maker
    Product Photography

    Olympus E-3 ~ E-30
    ZD 50 ~ 7-14 ~ 14-35 ~ 14-54 ~ 12-60 ~ 35-100 ~ 50-200 ~ EC 20
    Velbon tripod/ball head
    Slik tripod/Jobu Jr 2 Gimbal

  10. #820
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    Fun with architecture
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    Benro KS-0

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