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  1. #551
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    Took this with the 70-300. Settings 263mm, f5.6, 1/200s hand held at iso 400. Lots of excusses for the settings but I liked how it turned out.
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  2. #552
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    Pretty good hand holding technique there Phil

    I've been playing around with the ec 20 on the 50mm lately.

    New species of mushrooms in the "yard" this year due to the lovely weather, Not...

    Edit - just found out today this picture is the current Featured Photo on Photographyreview.com



    Thought I would see how it held up to a 100% crop...

    The original..



    The crop...



    Cheers, Don
    Last edited by Don Kondra; 08-25-2009 at 10:21 PM.
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    Phil, great eagle shot, but I wish the background was a different (darker) color.

    Don, thought I would post a picture and crop from the 50mm on the E520. There seems to be a bit of color fringing on the EC20 and E510 (f/8, 1/100, ISO 100).
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    Quote Originally Posted by kgosden View Post
    Don, thought I would post a picture and crop from the 50mm on the E520. There seems to be a bit of color fringing on the EC20 and E510 (f/8, 1/100, ISO 100).
    Geez, had me wondering WTF for a minute, you've listed your camera settings after the color fringing comment of the E-510... little confusing

    Anywho, your shot confirms what I've read about the 520 images being softer than the 510. I will give you the benefit of the doubt considering your low shutter speed/lighting conditions.

    As to the color fringing, I wonder if it is not simply a monitor thingee.

    On my 3 year old uncalibrated Dell 19" I don't see it, on my new 23" calibrated Dell monitor I don't see it.

    Would you mind illustrating the area's that appear to you as "fringed" ?

    Cheers, Don
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  5. #555
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    Don,

    Maybe it is a sharpening artifact, but I see it on my calibrated Samsung on my home PC as well as my Dell laptop. Mainly obvious around the wing and lower flower petals.

    And I agree that the 520 does seem softer than my old 510 did. I feel the need to apply some unsharp mask to most images. The sample I posted was straight from the camera except for resizing. I did place my settings after the wrong sentence. Guess I should post while I am awake.
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    Ah ha... now that you point it out. It's interesting how my tunnel vision was focused on the "bee".

    That's mostly my processing, if I click on "enlarge" seven times on the original raw file in Studio I can see very slight fringing on the flower petal.

    If that is what "they" talk about as image degradation when using the ec 20, for the very odd time I would crop this aggressively, I can live with it or fix it

    I'd be interested to hear what is considered a "normal" cropping procedure in macro shooting..

    To be clear, if I was after "the bee" I would have gotten closer, I showed the crop for illustration purposes only.

    Cheers, Don
    Last edited by Don Kondra; 08-25-2009 at 12:56 PM.
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    Thanks guys yes Don I was suprised that there wasn't more softness from camera shake too. kgosden the eagle was in slight shade and the background was actually grass with direct sun on it hence the vivid yucky green colour. Plus I was a bit too lazy to PP it
    Those are pretty sharp macros from both of you the 50mm looks to be a pretty good lens.
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  8. #558
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    PhillD, that is an incredible shot. Don, I like the mushrooms.

    I got a used 50mm f/2 recently, and it is very nice. Interestingly, I think it is easier to see the effects of the better lens in thumbnail images than viewed full size.

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    PhillD the 50mm is a worthwhile lens. I have found that I really like the extra distance of the 70-300mm for insects, especially those that fly. The 50 just requires that you get too in their face and they fly off. But for flowers and nonflying insects it is great. I have not really fallen for it as a general purpose lens, but I rarely shot portraits that some find it good for.

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    The 50MM F2.0 is a great lens, no doubt, but I prefer the focusing of the 35MM - makes it a better "walk around" lens.
    Also, just got one for a grand total of $80, so I may be a little biased.

    Also, did anyone else know that Olympus removed the "Test" menu from the E-510? Apparently when Olympus added IS support for legacy lenses, they removed the ability for end-users to access it, so no more ISO50 or ISO3200 for me.
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