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  1. #1
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    What setting to set flash on

    I just borrowed my friends HVL F36AM and don't know what setting I should set it on for indoor shooting. What setting for fill flash for outside. I have my sons engagement party and would like to give it a try using a flash.
    Thanks Frank
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    Well, speaking in a standard way ... using the flash at full power and in Manual (not TTL), my manual settings are usually:

    F/5.6
    1/60 sec
    ISO-400
    No DRO and that's about it. Too bright, I run the speed up to 1/125 - still too bright ... ISO-200. Those two items are enough to kill off most flash issues.

    Do not shoot slower than 1/60, otherwise you will introduce ambient lighting from other sources. Also, subject movement will show up.
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    How do you turn off the DRO? Does it reset when you power off the camera.

    Thanks Don you are the man
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    I believe it does, Frank. Leave it on, for now ... probably doesn't matter all that much.
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
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    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
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    I will post some shots so you can let me know what I did wrong.
    Thanks
    Frank
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    Tamron 60mm Macro
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    Tamron 2x Converter
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    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
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    I tried several settings and this is, like I alluded to, a real study in camera operation.

    Try this ...
    Manual for everything.
    f/11
    1/160 (high speed sync with flash)
    ISO-100
    Manual Flash 1:1

    It should render a viewable image. Let me know.
    Last edited by DonSchap; 07-18-2008 at 09:28 PM.
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    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

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    Fill flash setting ONLY works with the pop-up flash, not the EXT flash.

    You should take time to review pages 54-58 in the User's Guide.
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
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    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

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    Why do you think I am asking all these questions?? He never gave me the book. LOL I did a search and didn't find it online. I will check again before I go. I only have a few hours before I have to leave.
    Thanks again
    Frank

    I just found it on the Sony site.
    Last edited by sparkie1263; 07-19-2008 at 05:02 AM.
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    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
    Slingshot 200 Bag



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    I'm apologize, Frank. Didn't know.

    It is the proper operation you have to be familiar with. The settings are secondary.

    You need to become familiar with "Flash compensation." There are two EV levels you can go, above and below, which will make the flash brighter or darker in AUTO mode. To get to it, go to the "lightning bolt" on the right hand selector knob, and then press the "Fn" buton in the middle of the knob.

    Click down into the "Flash Compensation", under the Flash Mode indicator, on the right side of the menu area. Then, you can raise or lower the +/- EV level of the flash. It offers more control over the TTL decision going on in the camera. I think it may be what you are looking to do.
    Last edited by DonSchap; 07-19-2008 at 05:32 AM.
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
    A Photographer Is Forever
    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

    flickr & Sdi

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    No need to apologize I was just kidding. I did read the manual on line. I took some shots at the house with the settings at f/5.6, 1/60 and iso 400 and they looked good. This will be my first try with a flash. I let you know how I do.
    Thanks as always you are a great help.
    Frank
    Sony A77
    Sony A580
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    Sony 18-70 Kit Lens
    Minolta AF 35-70
    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
    Slingshot 200 Bag



    http://www.flickr.com/photos/22083244@N06/

    http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/

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