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  1. #1
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    D80 JPEG problem...

    When shooting in JPEG Fine, my D80 introduces digital specks into my images. These specks show up as red green or blue bright pixels. I can obviously take these out in Lightroom but it has become a rather tedious process considering I shoot 300 - 500 images per shoot.

    My questions are:

    1) Why does this happen?
    2) Can I do anything to stop this from happening, or is the answer simply "get a better body"?

    EDIT: Example image added.
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    Last edited by Fiasco; 06-11-2008 at 09:55 PM.
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    Can you post an example image?
    I'd have to guess it's noise artifacts. I have seen them in some of my images when using ISO above 400 in the darker/black areas.
    You could experiment with the "High ISO NR" setting in the shooting menu to see if you can get better results. I've been switching between "normal" & "high" when I need to use ISO 400 and higher and that seems to help reduce the artifacts. (But find that ISO 100 gives me the best image quality.)

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    Image posted. There's a lot more of those buggers in the full shot. Roughly 15 - 20 of them. This shot was at ISO 250.
    Nikon D200 / Sigma lenses 17-70mm ƒ2.8-4.5 / EX 10-20mm ƒ4-5.6 / EX 8mm ƒ4 / 70-300mm ƒ4-5.6 / Vivitar 285HV's
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    They don't look like noise artifacts.
    Do they appear on the same places on all photos?
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    Yep. Same spots whenever I shoot JPEG.

    EDIT: Google, being the friend that it is, has just informed me that these are hot pixels, and that they are pretty common in D80's. So frustrating!!
    Nikon D200 / Sigma lenses 17-70mm ƒ2.8-4.5 / EX 10-20mm ƒ4-5.6 / EX 8mm ƒ4 / 70-300mm ƒ4-5.6 / Vivitar 285HV's
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    I think they are hot pixels then. The camera is under warranty right?
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    Yeah it is under warranty, but what can they really do about it? It's not like Nikon is going to give me a new sensor, or are they?
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    Are those same pixels always there when you shoot JPG?

    There are certain period when manufacturers will replace their products for such defects. If it's under warranty, Nikon will have to repair/replace the sensor at no cost to you although you may have to go without the camera for a while. You will have to contact them to see what they will do about it.

    Sorry that happens to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiasco View Post

    EDIT: Google, being the friend that it is, has just informed me that these are hot pixels, and that they are pretty common in D80's. So frustrating!!
    I read that many D80s produce many bright pixels when shooting on high ISO. Fortunately mine isn't one of them.
    Hot pixels aren't common with D80. In fact, that's a defect. As I said before Nikon will have to fix that at no cost to you. That's what the warranty is for.
    Nikon D90, D80
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    Quote Originally Posted by tim11 View Post
    Are those same pixels always there when you shoot JPG?

    There are certain period when manufacturers will replace their products for such defects. If it's under warranty, Nikon will have to repair/replace the sensor at no cost to you although you may have to go without the camera for a while. You will have to contact them to see what they will do about it.

    Sorry that happens to you.
    Always there in JPEG.

    Just called Nikon and they said expect 2 - 3 weeks without it once I send it out. Even then they "cannot guarantee any repair will actually solve the problem".

    I cannot go that long without a camera, I have shoots booked into July. And if they can't guarantee the problem will be repaired it's pointless to even send it in... I would be quite pissed if after 2 - 3 weeks I get it back as it was when I sent it out.

    Time to get a new body then. In the meantime I'll just shoot everything in RAW... takes the same processing time anyhow. Any ideas on how to recreate the camera's "vivid" color settings in Lightroom? That's the main reason I was shooting in JPEG.
    Last edited by Fiasco; 06-11-2008 at 11:00 PM.
    Nikon D200 / Sigma lenses 17-70mm ƒ2.8-4.5 / EX 10-20mm ƒ4-5.6 / EX 8mm ƒ4 / 70-300mm ƒ4-5.6 / Vivitar 285HV's
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