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  1. #11
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    Don I tried it again but I don't see any difference do you. I tried to bump up the blur to 80 percent and I seen it change but I cannot see the change at 2.5 percent.



    Edit: I tried it again and bumped it up to 10 percent and it worked.
    Thanks Don
    Last edited by sparkie1263; 05-05-2008 at 03:45 PM.
    Sony A77
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    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
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    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
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  2. #12
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    Welcome to the world of "pseudo-photography." That is ... you have gotten a relatively decent image to work with. Now, your digital darkroom must get to work ... LOL
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
    A Photographer Is Forever
    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

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  3. #13
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    Just think of all the cash I can save by not having to buy a good piece of glass. LOL
    Sony A77
    Sony A580
    Sony A 100
    Maxxum 400si.
    Sony 18-70 Kit Lens
    Minolta AF 35-70
    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
    Slingshot 200 Bag



    http://www.flickr.com/photos/22083244@N06/

    http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/

  4. #14
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    One thing to consider is the real element. As much as we like bokeh ... sensor noise keeps us honest. An f/4 lens is STILL an f/4 lens. You simply cannot get the light that you can from an f/2.8 or better, at lower ISOs ... hence, the noise monster gets you indoors.

    As long as you keep shooting outdoors ... then, yeah ... you can probably sneek "enhanced" bokeh (shallow DOF) past them ... if you are good about where the subject is standing and that you take into consideration the focus plane of the subject, if they come in contact with the floor or the wall. Something like: You cannot have a hand in focus and the wall they're touching sudden blurred out. It's unnatural.

    Same thing goes for the grass they are standing on ... shoes in focus, blades of surrounding grass not? You have to remember the focal plane and account for it, to maintain the illusion of a better lens.

    Remember: there is nothing like critically sharp focus. You can always dumb it down ... but, you cannot improve it. Crappy focus from the get go ... the image is always crappy. So ... shooting f/8 (when you can) is a "forgiving shot", due to the wide depth of field (DOF) ... and then you can bokeh out everything you want out of focus to make it look like an f/2.8 lens. Best part ... more of the original shot is in focus and allows you to be a little "sloppier."

    Try some shots at f/8 and do the technique. It really makes you appreciate digital even more.
    Last edited by DonSchap; 05-05-2008 at 06:33 PM.
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
    A Photographer Is Forever
    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

    flickr & Sdi

  5. #15
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    Nobody but you would even notice.LOL I just went to KEH Site and found a Minotla 100 F2.8 MACRO for 350.00. How is that price?
    Sony A77
    Sony A580
    Sony A 100
    Maxxum 400si.
    Sony 18-70 Kit Lens
    Minolta AF 35-70
    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
    Slingshot 200 Bag



    http://www.flickr.com/photos/22083244@N06/

    http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/

  6. #16
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    Lightbulb Buying used ...

    Quote Originally Posted by sparkie1263 View Post
    I just went to KEH Site and found a Minotla 100 F2.8 MACRO for 350.00. How is that price?
    The original price was $500 ... but, that is really the least of your concerns. Has the lens been dropped? That's the real issue. Price is secondary. You need some assurances, like if when you receive it and you find that it has been damaged or just works poorly (gets stuck or binds during focus) ... it goes back.
    Last edited by DonSchap; 05-05-2008 at 06:50 PM.
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
    A Photographer Is Forever
    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

    flickr & Sdi

  7. #17
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    I hate buying used things. I will wait and go with one of your suggestions.
    Sony A77
    Sony A580
    Sony A 100
    Maxxum 400si.
    Sony 18-70 Kit Lens
    Minolta AF 35-70
    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
    Slingshot 200 Bag



    http://www.flickr.com/photos/22083244@N06/

    http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/

  8. #18
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    When, if you know your seller ... that makes a lot of difference. Also, if you get a hellaciously good price, a lot can be forgiven ... and even submitted for repair, as my Minolta AF 50mm f/1.4 was. I got it for a reasonable tag, even with the repair, but at $300 ... it's too close. Like I said, guaranteed return ... like to a camera store ... is the best way to do it. The old "try it/buy it" sale.
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
    A Photographer Is Forever
    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

    flickr & Sdi

  9. #19
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    Second try. How did I do teach? LOL

    Sony A77
    Sony A580
    Sony A 100
    Maxxum 400si.
    Sony 18-70 Kit Lens
    Minolta AF 35-70
    Minolta AF 50 f/1.7
    Tamron 70-300 f/4-5.6 Di LD
    Tamron 60mm Macro
    Tamron 17-50 f/2.8
    Tamron 2x Converter
    Sony HVL-F42AM
    Quantaray 70-300 4.5-5.6 Macro
    Slingshot 200 Bag



    http://www.flickr.com/photos/22083244@N06/

    http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/

  10. #20
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    What bugs me ...

    Quote Originally Posted by sparkie1263 View Post
    Second try. How did I do teach? LOL
    You have the technique down, but once again ... remember the plane of focus. That one pedal, sticking out, under the buggie's butt ... has to be sharp, too. It cannot be blurred, because it is at the same distance from the lens as the bug itself. So you isolate it - as well as the bug ... BEFORE you do the technique ... to allow it to remain sharp, also.

    That's the only part of the flower that needs that kind of attention.
    Don Schap - BFA, Digital Photography
    A Photographer Is Forever
    Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
    Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.

    flickr & Sdi

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