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  1. #1
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    Smile New Lens - Kiron 105 f/2.8 Macro

    Hello everyone,

    Last week I went to my local camera store to buy a watertight camera case. I needed this for last weekend's vacation to Ameland, a small island in the Waddezee (the sea above the Netherlands), where you can walk through the sea during lowtide.

    Anyway, they always have some used lenses on sale and this time I saw they had a macro lens on sale for just under 100 euro.
    This lens was the Kiron 105 f/2.8 macro. I have been looking for a macro lens for a long time now, so I decided to buy this one.

    Kiron / Kino Precission was a brand from the eighties that was supposedly founded by a group of Nikkor engineers. The company produced lenses for other companies like Vivitar (some of the legendary 1 series lenses) and later started producing lenses of their own. They stopped producing lenses of their own in the late eighties because they could not afford including autofocus in their lenses.

    The 105 is supposed to be a very good lens. On some websites they even say it has a cult-status . I read on several websites that it is optically the same as the Vivitar Series 1 105 f/2.5 (which also has a good reputation). The difference in apperture seems odd, but the apperture ring of the Kiron seems to turn a bit further than f/2.8. I suspect the lens is actually f/2.5 as well, but I will do some tests later.

    Here are some pictures of the lens on the camera:

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    The build quality is pretty good. The thing is made completely of metal (and is pretty heavy). The lens is in a good condition. Some marks and scratches on the metal, but the glass seems fine.
    I have taken quite some shots with the lens. So far I am pleased with its performance. It is the first time I shoot 1:1 macro, so I still find it a bit difficult to cope with the thin depth of field. Here are some pictures I took so far:

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    All in all, I think the lens represents great value of for the money. It is manual focus and has no metering on the D50, but I don't think it is that big a deal for the purpose. Of course, modern macro lenses are better, but at a third of the price of the Tamron 90, I think it is a good alternative for photographers on a budget.
    Last edited by Prospero; 04-29-2008 at 06:01 AM. Reason: forgot to convert to srgb
    Nikon D-50
    // Nikkor 70-300 f/4-5.6 VR // Nikkor 50 mm f/1.8
    // Sigma 17-70 f/2.8-4.5 ...// Nikon SB-600
    // Sigma 10-20 f/4-5.6......// Nikon Series E 135 mm f/2.8
    // Kiron 105 f/2.8 Macro....// Manfrotto 190XPROB + 488RC4
    // Nikkor 35 f/1.8..........// Sigma 500 mm f/8

    My website: http://www.dennisdolkens.nl

  2. #2
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    great buy, great shots, great phtoographer. what more needs to be said ?
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  3. #3
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    All you need is some kreepy krawley things and you and Rooz can have a bug off.
    It'll be great to look at the results.

    Congratulations on the new toy.

    Edit: I just noticed that this was post 2000. I'm feeling old now.
    Last edited by K1W1; 04-29-2008 at 05:57 AM.

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    i have almost double the amount of posts in half the time. must be alot of crap posts huh ?
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  5. #5
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    Thanks for the comments, Rooz and Richard.

    The bug off would be great, but I am sure Rooz will beat me with ease. The lighting, framing, control of DOF, colours, etc. in his shot are simply phenomenol. Also, all insects seem to fly away before I can even get them in focus .

    By the way, Rooz, if you have time, it would be great if you could write a "insect photography, how I do it thread" .

    Richard, congratulations on your 2000th post
    Nikon D-50
    // Nikkor 70-300 f/4-5.6 VR // Nikkor 50 mm f/1.8
    // Sigma 17-70 f/2.8-4.5 ...// Nikon SB-600
    // Sigma 10-20 f/4-5.6......// Nikon Series E 135 mm f/2.8
    // Kiron 105 f/2.8 Macro....// Manfrotto 190XPROB + 488RC4
    // Nikkor 35 f/1.8..........// Sigma 500 mm f/8

    My website: http://www.dennisdolkens.nl

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    Congrats Prospero, looks like a winner for the price.

    2000 posts, pass that man an ale Rooz. Congrats Kiwi
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    Prospero,

    Those are killer shots and the lens like you said is a great value. I'd like to have a macro lens later in the future also, whether it's manual or AF. Did you use a tripod on any of those shots? They're super sharp!
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  8. #8
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    Thanks a lot for the comments, Xailo and 500mL.

    I used a tripod on the first 4 shots. These were taken indoors and lit by a desklamp. I used t-shirts and colourful pages of books as a background. The shutterspeed was about a second. I used the selftimer to make sure the tripod was steady when the shot was fired. It is a pity, though, that the D50 does not have mirror lock-up, because that would have made it easier to get sharper results.

    The other three were taken outdoors and handheld.
    Nikon D-50
    // Nikkor 70-300 f/4-5.6 VR // Nikkor 50 mm f/1.8
    // Sigma 17-70 f/2.8-4.5 ...// Nikon SB-600
    // Sigma 10-20 f/4-5.6......// Nikon Series E 135 mm f/2.8
    // Kiron 105 f/2.8 Macro....// Manfrotto 190XPROB + 488RC4
    // Nikkor 35 f/1.8..........// Sigma 500 mm f/8

    My website: http://www.dennisdolkens.nl

  9. #9
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    Well - you certainly seem to have got a good deal there, the results speak for themselves!
    If you have no metering is it guesswork or do you use a seperate light meter??
    Geoff
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    Dennis, I like #s 1 and 4, good use of DOF. Since you're shooting indoors (read: unlimited shutter speed) have you tried closing down the aperture? (The aperture isn't listed in the EXIF since the lens doesn't meter.) You must be gaining considerable skill with lenses that won't autofocus, won't meter ... our "superior" tools baby us along, don't they?
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