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  1. #1
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    D40 Indoor Arena Sports lense

    New here to this site.

    I purchased a d40 a month ago and absolutely love it. My only qualm with it is high motion sports (such as college basketball) in an arena.

    I was wondering what lense would be best suited for this type of photography. I sit fairly close to the court but not right on top of it, so I would assume the lense would have to zoom slightly as well.

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    Thanks what i get out of the lense that came with the camera. 18-55mm if i'm not mistaken. I tried sports mode, manual mode, and S-mode.


    Thanks,
    JAson

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    Any of the 70-200 f2.8 lenses ought to do (Not just the Nikkor, though you get VR with it for other things). If you are allowed to stomp the sidelines, then the 85mm f1.8 is also an excellent choice.
    Eric Lund
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    Nikkors: 17-55mm f2.8, 18-200mm f3.5-f4.5 VR, 70-300mm f4.5-5.6 VR, 35mm f2, 50mm f1.8, 55mm f2.8 AI-S micro, 105mm f2.8 VR micro
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    Welcome to the forum

    Sigma 50-150 2.8 hsm
    Sigma 70-200 2.8 hsm
    Nikon 70-200 2.8 afs
    Nikon prime 85 1.8 as Eric mentioned also good choice for indoor sports.

    Would be helpful for indoor sports shooting for the lens to either be HSM or AFS
    - Rich

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  4. #4
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    is there a lens that isn't quite 1k+?

    I was looking at the 18-200mm nikkor for an all around lens that that's 700 dollars.


    I will look into that 85mm prime nikon. If I'm not mistaken you cannot auto focus any other lenses except AF-s?

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    Your choices are severely limited because of the D40 body. But in reality, the 80-200/70-200 f/2.8 lenses are the standard in photography. Just about everyone who is serious about photos has one.

    A good alternative is the last of the 80-200 lenses, the 80-200 f/2.8 AF-S lens. They can be had used for about $900 + shipping...in fact, thats the price of my 80-200 AF-S that I am selling currently (sorry, had to pimp while I have the chance).

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    I was looking at the d40 shots thread and see that many people are using the 50mm 1.8f. Is that really good for indoor sports?


    Also, as far as the 18-200mm Nikkor VR lens, Is it better to get then having to carry both the kit lens and a 55-200mm lens?


    Thanks,
    Jason

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    Lenses like the 18-200 are very slow (f5.6) at the long end, and not very fast at the short end. The VR does nothing for sports, because your subjects are moving so fast that you need a fast shutter speed to stop their motion. The fast shutter speed required obviates the need for VR.

    The D40 is capable of shooting at ISO 1600, but even at that, your shutter speed will only be moderate, and you will not get very many "keepers". For indoor sports, speed is everything.

    The 50mm lenses can be used, but you will be severely cropping. The D40, being 6MP, has less room to crop than higher density sensors. Also, you will need to manually focus, and since you will be shooting wide open, your depth of field will be razor thin. If you were a pro shooting film or full frame (ie super bright viewfinder), I'd say yes. But the D40 has a weakness in the viewfinder, and it makes focus in low light difficult, nearly impossible at f1.8 shooting action.

    I had forgotten about the 50-150 by Sigma. That would be a good choice, as I believe it is an HSM lens (will auto-focus). It's about the same price as the 18-200 (It's $750 @ B&H), and is much brighter. It may not reach to the far corners of the court the way the 70-200 will, but it should cover most of the action.
    Eric Lund
    Nikon D200
    Nikkors: 17-55mm f2.8, 18-200mm f3.5-f4.5 VR, 70-300mm f4.5-5.6 VR, 35mm f2, 50mm f1.8, 55mm f2.8 AI-S micro, 105mm f2.8 VR micro
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    Have a look at the sigma 50-150/f2.8 HSM, if the range is enough i think its the best choice on a limited budget.
    Then there is the sigma 70-200/f2.8, Nikkor 70-200/f2.8 and 80-200/f2.8.
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/14807929@N05/

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    In this enviornment I believe you would find primes limiting, secondly D40 or not capturing indoor sports is not going to be a cheap proposition. The Sigma 50-150mm would seem to be the best cost effective option. r3g uses it for sports another D40 owner.

    Congrats, welcome to the forums and stop by the "Some D40 Pics" thread soon. good luck.
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    For basketball, most stadiums are lit such that you can use a 50mm at f/2.8, 400th shutter at 800 ISO. This seems to be a very common setting, I know at least 4 other b-ball guys who use this setting. This will freeze the action, give reasonable DOF, and not overtax your ISO on your camera.

    From your point of view, a 200mm lens would be about right to shoot around the goal. Once they got down court, you might as well put your camera down.

    The 18-200VR is an excellent lens, but not a good performer here.

    Just to give you an idea, almost every b-ball photographer has a 300mm lens. This lens is excellent for downcourt and produces a proper image at the other end of the court. Then a 70-200 is used for up close, but most of the time this is used on a full frame camera so the zoom isn't as much. I use my 80-200 on my D300 and either my 50mm or 17-35 on my D70s. Its a solid setup, not perfect but its what I gots.

    If I had a ton o' cash, I'd use a 300mm and a 24-70. That would be the optimal setup. I saw a couple guys actually using this setup with great success. But then again this is from the sideline, not the stands.

    One guy had the setup. He had a REALLY nice canon 28-300 lens (pro piece of glass) and 4 1600W/s strobes in the catwalks above. He was shooting at 1/200th shutter, f/5.6 and 200 ISO. Strobes make it too easy .
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