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  1. #1
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    DDs basketball games

    Gah! I'm starting two new threads in one day!

    Okay, so my DD is in basketball this year and I have been TRYING to get some decent shots of the game. It's a pain! Those girls MOVE!

    Last time was in our gym and I kept focusing in on the background. There was plenty of light so I didn't need to use a flash and I used my zoom lens. I believe that time I just set it on the sports setting.

    Tonight I decided to try my 50mm out with it stopped all the way down. I didn't think a flash would do much good and the gym we were at has worse lighting then ours. A LOT of the pictures are just too blurry to use. A lot have part of the girl in focus with the rest of her blurred.

    We've got 2 games left this season and I'm hoping to do better. Any advice? Will my SB600 make any difference? I worry it would be too distracting for the girls too.

    Oh, I've been on the sidelines sitting, not at the end of the courts. I'm thinking the end might be better because at least then I can have them coming at me instead of trying to pan. Panning is something new and I'm not skilled, lol.
    CJ


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    J,

    You are trying to shoot one of the toughest things to capture,
    speed and never enough light. Crank the ISO up and put up with a little
    noise, usually better than a blurry shot. You can fix some noise in pp. If you have to, underexpose a little to keep ss up, but not too much because of the noise it will introduce when you bring the picture back up in pp. I avoid flash when I take BB game shots, too distracting to the players imo. Shoot in A or S and not sport mode. Shooting as they are coming at you will be difficult if your ss is not fast, with a shallow dof, they are out of focus before the photo is taken.

    I am not a fan of dynamic or continuous focus, even though they are
    always recommended for sport shooting.
    - Rich

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  3. #3
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    That figures.

    I guess I should be happy to get a couple of decent ones a game then. ANd this is teaching me that I really like landscape photography, lol.
    CJ


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    ok...i'll be the dumb one...what's a DD ?
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    Sorry.... DD is dear daughter. DS= dear son, DW= dear wife, DH= dear hubby. (on bad days you can change the meaning of the dear part...)
    CJ


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    lol thanks CJ. so what does DH stand for on bad days ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooz View Post
    ok...i'll be the dumb one...what's a DD ?

    Thanks my friend!




    I didnt know either
    Jason

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camerajunkie View Post
    Tonight I decided to try my 50mm out with it stopped all the way down. I didn't think a flash would do much good and the gym we were at has worse lighting then ours. A LOT of the pictures are just too blurry to use. A lot have part of the girl in focus with the rest of her blurred.
    You should not have the lens stoped down all the way. It should be opened up to let as much light in to have the fastest shutter speed possible.

    By saying a "part of the girl in focus with the rest of her blurred", it leads me to believe you are getting motion blur, meaning you do not have a fast enough shutter speed. Open up your aperture so that you can have a faster shutter speed. This should decrease/eliminate this type of blur.

    Try shuttter priority mode with a fast shutter speed. I normally use a minimum shutter speed of 1/250s(often faster if possible) for sports photos.

    Ray.

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    --- adding a bit more.... at the expense of possibly sounding condescending... You probably already know this---

    I use manual mode (no auto-ISO either). RAW will allow you a bit more flexibility in Post

    Assuming Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 - With the following:
    Manual exposure
    Aperture = f/1.8 (on 50mm) (shallow depth of field... but you can't do much about this)
    SS = 1/250

    Set ISO to 800. Take a test shot. Look at the histogram to see how your exposure was. Adjust your ISO to achieve as good exposure as you can.

    This will be your baseline. When you review your shots at some break in the game, zoom in to see if you are minimizing the motion blur... If you are, flirt with slower shutter speed to enable you to drop the ISO, if you are getting too much motion blur then Up your ISO and Shutterspeed.

    After loading them on your computer, decide what adjustments need to be made next week!
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  10. #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcadwall View Post
    --- adding a bit more.... at the expense of possibly sounding condescending... You probably already know this---

    I use manual mode (no auto-ISO either). RAW will allow you a bit more flexibility in Post

    Assuming Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 - With the following:
    Manual exposure
    Aperture = f/1.8 (on 50mm) (shallow depth of field... but you can't do much about this)
    SS = 1/250

    Set ISO to 800. Take a test shot. Look at the histogram to see how your exposure was. Adjust your ISO to achieve as good exposure as you can.

    This will be your baseline. When you review your shots at some break in the game, zoom in to see if you are minimizing the motion blur... If you are, flirt with slower shutter speed to enable you to drop the ISO, if you are getting too much motion blur then Up your ISO and Shutterspeed.

    After loading them on your computer, decide what adjustments need to be made next week!

    You aren't being condescending at all. Actually what you said helps a lot. I'm one of those weird people who can't read it in a book and figure it out, I need someone else to tell me how to do it. If that makes any sense.

    I think I have a clue of what might be going on and will fiddle with settings to see what I can get.

    And I apologize about the confusion on my F-stop. I was at 1.8. Any smaller and it wouldn't take the picture at all.
    CJ


    Nikon D90, 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G ED AF-S, DX Zoom-Nikkor, 50mm f/1.8D AF Nikkor, 55-200mm f/4-5.6G AF-S DX VR, Induro AT-214 w/DM-12 ballhead, SB-800, SB-600 + diffuser, Light stand and umbrella, Hoya Polarizing Filter 52mm, Lowepro Slingshot 200 AW, and Lowepro Nova 170 AW for daily carry around


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