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  1. #1
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    Best scanner January 2008 ??

    We have a Canon Lide 80 and a 4400F scanner and have been pleased with it s results which we use primarily to transfer our 35mm photos onto the notebooks.
    However a neighbor mentioned that a model of HP was far superior and so I thought that I would post here and ask experienced users,
    Thankyou
    BTW, xpsp2 and Canon printers Pixma ip 5000, ip 4500, ip 6700 and ES2.

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    There's always something better on the market. If you're happy with what you're using why pay for a new one. If your neighbour could qualify why the other HP one was better and those features appeal to you then that's another matter.

    I've found you can get good results with even consumer level scanners although semi professional scanners offer better colour depth and can be quicker. I liken a scanner to a camera that sits on your desktop. That $200 mass market point and shoot will do a great job, is easy and is great value for money or you can spend thousands of dollars extra for incremental improvement and better flexibility like an SLR.

    Apart from the optical qualities of the scanner I reckon the software is the most important factor. I've used a couple Canons where the scanner didn't automatically recognise the document and you had to manually set the marquee each scan, it was a pain in the A. Sure for a large quantity of scans I could have made a cardboard template so I always placed the prints in the same spot but I shouldn't have to. I love the software on new and older Epson models personally as it autorecognises the scan area correctly 99% of the time and is generally very user friendly.

    When I bought my scanners I looked at what I was scanning (prints or slides), the quoted optical density, the quoted scan time and my Epson brand preferance. A good site to learn more about scanning is www.scantips.com

    A last point don't believe the manufacturers stated specifications. Use them as a buying guide for sure but don't be disappointed if your nice new scanner is slower than you thought it'd be. There's a fair bit of sales fluff in those specification sheets.

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    I really appreciate your wealth of knowledge and heartily agree with you in the fact that there is always something better around the corner. Whether it is worth the spend is another matter.
    I guess what started me thinking more about this was the software "Easy Photo Print", which has started for some reason to be a pain.
    I am doing what I consider simple 4 x 6 prints and indicate "fit to page", but there has to be some setting there that I have incorrect as sometimes I end up with the pic in the middle of the 4 x 6 photo paper and I find that really frustrating.
    I know that Canon has a support line and so next week I will have to give them a phone call.

    I don't know what the Default setting is and am not sure whether I have to make changes from Portrait to Landscape or vice versa each time I change types of photos that I am printing.
    I seem to have suddenly come across this problem and so I believe that I may have been occasionally printing either "Portrait or Landscape" pics off my notebook for sometime and did not realize it and so some settings may have simply fit my needs and now for whatever reason I am likely trying to print something that does not agree with the settings.

    I even ensure that I drag the dotted lines to totally encompass the pic and yet it will still sometimes end up not fitting the full 4 x 6 photo paper and I simply give up after messing up several sheets.
    I am going to buy some cheap paper and practice a bit, noting whether the pic is Portrait or Landscape and my settings.

    I don't do this often enough and then in a pinch, I am scrambling and never seem to be able to get it right and the better half is pressing to take a copy of a pic somewhere. And the inevitable occurs, a failed attempt.

    BTW, I have even looked at Preview and everything seemed OK....but !!! (so that is why I was wondering about a scanner, but now that I think about it maybe it is the Printers "Easy Photo Print" ???? or maybe the Scanner settings ???

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    Whoah thats a bit different to what I had in mind. I'm not too good on printing at all and have never consciously used easy photo print. I know a bit about scanning however.

    Printing and scanning are two different processes and I reckon you'll get best results if you treat them that way. You'll at least see where the problem lies.

    Firstly that issue of the photo sits in the middle of paper surrounded by a sea of white is exactly what I described as the scanner not correctly recognising the scan area. Basically the scanner has decided your document takes up the whole scan bed so it "photographs" the whole scan bed not just the photo portion. You mention dragging the dotted lines that is what I meant by manually setting the marque and is the correct fix for this problem.

    If you can take the time try this 2 step process:

    Scan a 6x4 photo print, use a scan resolution setting of 300 dpi. This should create a jpg file around 1800*1200 pixels size. Check that the photo you want fills the whole image and that you don't have a small photo surrounded by the sea of white. Make sure the jpg is the right orientation. If the photo doesn't fill the image then scan it again manually selecting the scan area by dragging those dotted lines.

    If the jpg looks good then print it just like you would any other jpg. If you print it at the same resolution you scanned it at (300 dpi) then it should come out the same size as the original.

    It should work.

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    Thx for the prompt response, I will have to give this a go tomorrow. I guess my problem seems to lie with what software to print a pic with ??
    Everything I have is Canon.
    Easy Photo Print comes with the Printer and I think off the top of my "dull" head is "Arc Soft" with the Scanner??

    I truly have to get the relationship of the Scanner and the Printer into focus in order to understand the nature of my problem.
    But I think that your suggestion is an excellent starting point for myself, who is an infrequent user of the Photo scanned pic and reproduction of it.
    So I keep a journal....that is why I was wondering if it could be b/c of Portrait?? or Landscape settings ???

    I simply do this so infrequently and the better half can't understand that with all that we have spent that I can't do a simple task like copy a pic that was scanned !!!

    BTW, without a doubt !!! Thankyou for the ongoing interest !!! with this Noob .. not really a noob, simply an infrequent and inept user of programs related to scanners and printers !!

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    What program do I print the pic in, the Arc Soft Photo that came with the scanner or the Easy Photo Print that came with the Printer??
    That is where my confusion lies.

    I don't understand the purpose of the 2 photo printing programs, why the scanner has one and the printer has one as well, thankyou.

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