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    40D Review in at DPR

    Phil has reviewed Canon's new 40D here.

    Interesting results. I suspect it will be even more interesting when the D300 review comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erichlund View Post
    Phil has reviewed Canon's new 40D here.

    Interesting results. I suspect it will be even more interesting when the D300 review comes out.
    This is what stood out for me:

    "Despite sharing identical specifications (10.5 total megapixels, 22.2 x 14.8 mm) the EOS 40D's sensor does appear to be different (or at least its backend electronics) to the EOS 400D (Digital Rebel XTi) as it did manage to deliver lower noise and higher dynamic range (topping nine stops, which is, apart from the Fujifilm S5 Pro, the best out-of-the-camera SLR performance we've had to date)." Phil Askey, DPreview

    Now we wait for the Nikon dream machine reviews...
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    out-of-camera doesn't mean much to me personally, especially in a semi pro camera like this cos i suspect this is not all that much of an advantage cos most people would shoot RAW and apply everything in PP. as for the fuji...well it has it's own issues that makes it almost impossible to promote to anyone but a very patient studio photographer.

    what is appealing about the 40D is the dynamic range in the shadows from the 14bit processor cos that is something you can't necessarily get in PP. even more so the fact that it is a "well sorted camera". that gives people an air of confidence in buying and is what every consumer wants to hear for their peace of mind.

    otherwise a fairly routine review which confirms canon's evolution over revolution theory has been a success.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooz View Post
    what is appealing about the 40D is the dynamic range in the shadows from the 14bit processor cos that is something you can't necessarily get in PP. even more so the fact that it is a "well sorted camera". that gives people an air of confidence in buying and is what every consumer wants to hear for their peace of mind.

    otherwise a fairly routine review which confirms canon's evolution over revolution theory has been a success.
    I not buying into this for one scintilla. The minimal amount of digital noise being described here does not qualify a 10.1 MP sensor size. Bigger is usually better ... for resolution reasons alone, but what the heck ... it's not a big enough deal to argue about, at this time.

    Now, when the big, new and updated full-frame sensor cameras come into view ... then ... let the deep discussion begin.
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    Well, those noise comparisons... look like the 30D. Aside from the highlight capture, there's nothing about the camera that stands out. I've been waiting for the reviews pretty eagerly, as I'm hoping to see the direction technology in general is going.

    That rather aggressive antialiasing sounds disappointing - Canon has had a record of good image quality without things like NR, but this is something along those lines.

    I'd like to see better from Nikon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooz View Post
    out-of-camera doesn't mean much to me personally, especially in a semi pro camera like this cos i suspect this is not all that much of an advantage cos most people would shoot RAW and apply everything in PP.
    I think you're confused. He was speaking about the characteristics of the sensor not the processor and specifically about the dynamic range the sensor was capable of...

    Quote Originally Posted by DonSchap View Post
    I not buying into this for one scintilla. The minimal amount of digital noise being described here does not qualify a 10.1 MP sensor size. Bigger is usually better ... for resolution reasons alone, but what the heck ... it's not a big enough deal to argue about, at this time.
    Don, if the 40D had a slot on it that dispensed $100 bills, you'd find fault with it. I never saw someone with a bigger axe to grind with no reason to grind it...
    Last edited by JTL; 10-24-2007 at 08:33 PM.
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    Axe grindings ... all over the floor.

    Quote Originally Posted by JTL View Post
    Don, if the 40D had a slot on it that disprnsed $100 bills, you'd find fault with it. I never saw someone with a bigger axe to grind with no reason to grind it...
    I ground my Canon-axe to stump over a month ago and Ol' stumpy has seen the last of my camera bags, that's for sure. The 40D seems to be a bigger disappointment to many other than myself. I ended the continuing saga with a warning and the sale of my investment.

    Come to the dark-side, JTL. There's a SONY A700 is waiting for you ... and you can rule with a real tool. LOL End the wait ... with something great.

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    This blatant promotional remark was brought to you by a disgruntled photographer. Hey, it happens. It's what you do about it that makes the difference.
    Last edited by DonSchap; 10-24-2007 at 02:36 PM.
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    Had they not made the A700 so incredibly ugly, I'd probably be considering it much more seriously. But I think the beginning of next year will be an upgrade to a 30D for me, as I see no major improvements (for my purposes anyway) in the 40D.

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    The light side of the force awaits you all... with a lil red racing stripe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fionndruinne View Post
    The light side of the force awaits you all... with a lil red racing stripe.
    I will never be turned...well...maybe...if that full-color patent Nikon holds finds its way into a full frame sensor (D4?)...I'm there with no looking back...
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