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  1. #1
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    Canon 40D sports help - night football & gym sports

    I just picked up a sweet 40d canon slr and could really use some help and advice in using it to get the best pictures possible in a few situations. I work for a high school so I have to cover lots of sports, and our big things are football, volleyball and basketball. Football is played at night under stadium lights and the others are in the gym. What settings will help me stay focused and keep my image still and sharp instead of blurry. I'm not a newbie, but I feel like if you pretend I am no details will be lost. Any and all advice is helpful.

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    You've picked up a very nice camera, should be great for sports. You probably already know this since you aren't new to cameras, but i'll just say it all. For all sports you'll want to keep the shutter speed high enough to freeze the action, unless you want a bit of subject motion blur. The 40D has good high ISO image quality with low noise so don't hesitate to use ISO 800, 1600 or even 3200 depending on how low the light levels are and what shutter speeds you're after. Also use the widest aperture possible on your lens, the wider the better. Hopefully you have a fast lens at least f2.8.

    I don't know what the modes are on Canons but you'll want to use continuous autofocus tracking to track the subject. And since your camera can shoot 6.5 frames per second you could use that if you like sequences of action shots. I prefer to use single shot and time the shot myself, but if it works for you then go for it. Hope you get some great shots with your new gear.
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    Use a shutter speed of at least 1/100th or faster to stop the action and whatever ISO & aperture you need for a correct exposure. Also, set AF to AIServo to help focus on moving objects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tobes11519 View Post
    I just picked up a sweet 40d canon slr and could really use some help and advice in using it to get the best pictures possible in a few situations. I work for a high school so I have to cover lots of sports, and our big things are football, volleyball and basketball. Football is played at night under stadium lights and the others are in the gym. What settings will help me stay focused and keep my image still and sharp instead of blurry. I'm not a newbie, but I feel like if you pretend I am no details will be lost. Any and all advice is helpful.
    tobes,

    can you tell us if you have any other lenes or just the one that came on your 40D?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by D Thompson View Post
    Use a shutter speed of at least 1/100th or faster to stop the action and whatever ISO & aperture you need for a correct exposure. Also, set AF to AIServo to help focus on moving objects.
    1/100 will not stop action. You should be shooting at 1/640 to stop action, maybe 1/500 for something moving very slow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tobes11519 View Post
    I just picked up a sweet 40d canon slr and could really use some help and advice in using it to get the best pictures possible in a few situations. I work for a high school so I have to cover lots of sports, and our big things are football, volleyball and basketball. Football is played at night under stadium lights and the others are in the gym. What settings will help me stay focused and keep my image still and sharp instead of blurry. I'm not a newbie, but I feel like if you pretend I am no details will be lost. Any and all advice is helpful.
    Is this college or high school? High school gyms typically have terrible light and you are going to want to be shooting with a lens like the 85 f/1.8 or the 50 f/1.4 in order to keep your shutter speed at 1/640 and your ISO around 1600. Fortunately these are inexpensive lenses. For your football shots you are going to want a 70-200 f/2.8 IS ideally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichNY View Post
    1/100 will not stop action. You should be shooting at 1/640 to stop action, maybe 1/500 for something moving very slow.
    BS! It stops it just fine, unless you're trying to shoot a jet.
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    LMAO.... great, here we go
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    Quote Originally Posted by D Thompson View Post
    BS! It stops it just fine, unless you're trying to shoot a jet.
    Dennis...was it a typo? Did you mean 1/1000? Just trying to help you keep your cred...because you WILL definitely get SERIOUS motion blur at 1/100.

    If it wasn't a typo and you indeed meant 1/100...simply take your camera, set it to 1/100, wave your hand in front of it and snap a shot. Then, post the results here, eat some crow and apologize nicely to Rich for saying "BS"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTL View Post
    Dennis...was it a typo? Did you mean 1/1000? Just trying to help you keep your cred...because you WILL definitely get SERIOUS motion blur at 1/100.

    If it wasn't a typo and you indeed meant 1/100...simply take your camera, set it to 1/100, wave your hand in front of it and snap a shot. Then, post the results here, eat some crow and apologize nicely to Rich for saying "BS"...
    Nope, not a typo. I don't shoot sports anymore so I don't have anything current, but I used to shoot high school basketball when my nephew played with my old film Canon A1 and shot at 1/125th and got satisfactory results.

    As far as my cred goes - let me point you to a couple of threads from someone on here who is highly respected in his ability.

    shot at 1/80 - http://www.dcresource.com/forums/sho...26&postcount=7

    shot at 1/125 - http://www.dcresource.com/forums/sho...3&postcount=10

    shot at 1/125 - http://www.dcresource.com/forums/sho...08&postcount=1


    There are also some at 1/250th and yes I realize that is faster than the 1/100th I said. There are also some shot with a lot faster shutter speed also. I would imagine the cars are going a lot faster than a college basketball/football/volleyball player are moving. I would also assume the OP would be panning with the action as I did when I shot sports as well as assuming CW was panning.

    I'll not eat crow yet as I stand by my original statement using 1/100-1/125 or faster, AIServo, and panning. I guess my original typo was leaving the panning part off. While shooting a moving object 1' from the end of a stationery camera at 1/100 may produce blur, I think the practical experience of CW's shots will save me from the crowfeast.
    Dennis

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