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  1. #1
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    Cool Sigma 18-200 OS - Sample Shots

    Well, it arrived on Friday, 6/22. I haven't had a lot of time to put it through it paces...just random shooting of things around the house to get a "feel" for the lens. It's bigger and heavier than the non-os version...plus it takes 72mm filters (as opposed to 62mm). I have not done any controlled testing of the lens. Most shots were at full zoom or full wide angle (it's the extremes where the potential problems would show up, I figure). Also, everything I've shot so far has been in P mode (Reb XT/350D). All shot RAW and converted to JPEG via Capture One LE (every RAW shooter should try it at least once...so simple...so amazing...so fast). I've spent only an hour or so with the lens and have 12 more days to return it if I decide I don't want to keep it (got it at B&H for $549.00).

    Some initial subjective observations:
    My copy of this lens is BETTER than my old Sigma non-os 18-200 in a very significant way. What's that you ask? It focuses faster and more accurately. A lot more accurately. The bokeh is still very good, and it's as sharp as the old lens (maybe a little sharper) but the contrast and color are not as good as the old lens. Also, the zoom ring is quite stiff. The old lens was very smooth. So far, no CA to speak of and not as much distortion as I expected. The OS has been a non-factor for me so far. It’s on…but I don’t notice it. It will require some real testing to understand its effectiveness and/or limitations. That's about it. So far, the lens is a keeper.

    BTW, there was a rant against this lens on some other site by someone who didn't provide any objective criteria or sample photos. The poster ranted about distortion and CA like it was a Coke bottle. I hate to question people's integrity, but that person either used a bad copy or had no clue what they were doing...or they are just a Sigma basher (imagine that?). Given the features/functionality of this lens and the price point...there is absolutely nothing wrong with it, so far, for what it is. Is it as good as the Canon 24-105? No way. But is it good enough to leave on your camera as your primary lens for 90% of non-pro shooting situations? For me, that would be a very big affirmative.

    Here are a few sample shots:









    Here's a gallery link to some others (I'm posting as I process them, and it's taking forever to upload them...Smugmug is like molasses today, so keep checking back if you're interested...):

    http://JTL.smugmug.com/gallery/3045430/1/165838367

    Last edited by JTL; 06-23-2007 at 11:39 PM.
    Some Gear: Nikon D700; Nikkor AF-S 50 f/1.4 G; Nikkor AF-S 24-85 3.f/5-4.5 G ED; Tamron 28-300 f/3.5-6.3 VC; Nikon SB-800; Velbon Maxi-F; Canon Pixma Pro 9000; Canon S3IS, Canon SD500; Epson 4990; Epson P5000; Wacom Intuos 3

    Main Software: Capture NX2; Adobe PhotoShop CS2; Corel Paintshop Pro X2 Ultimate

    Sold: Canon XT/350D, EF 24-105mm f/4 L IS, EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro; EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5, Sigma 18-200 OS; Canon ET EF 25II; Kenko Pro 300 DG, Canon 430EX, Canon BG-E3.

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    Doesn't look that bad.

    So now we've got nikon and sigma making 18-200's... nikon with a VR lens < 250$ and canon still missing any real "all in one" or cheap IS lens.

    Really confuses me since obviously sigma and tamron selling enough of these to keep making them you would think canon would do what nikon did, slap IS into a somewhat better but not great lens and sell it.

    Tim

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    And the wierd thing is, a Canon rep said to me last Summer that they were working on one...either that wasn't true, or they're not ready to release one for whatever reason. But I know two people personally who bought D80's just for the Nikon 18-200 VR! There must be thousands of people making that same decision. Now add in all the folks like me who will buy the Sigma and Canon is missing out on a s-load of money...not to mention looking pretty dumb from a marketing standpoint. Oh well...

    Meanwhile, I'll just enjoy shooting with what I have...because for the money, my rig is damn good...
    Last edited by JTL; 06-23-2007 at 10:20 PM.
    Some Gear: Nikon D700; Nikkor AF-S 50 f/1.4 G; Nikkor AF-S 24-85 3.f/5-4.5 G ED; Tamron 28-300 f/3.5-6.3 VC; Nikon SB-800; Velbon Maxi-F; Canon Pixma Pro 9000; Canon S3IS, Canon SD500; Epson 4990; Epson P5000; Wacom Intuos 3

    Main Software: Capture NX2; Adobe PhotoShop CS2; Corel Paintshop Pro X2 Ultimate

    Sold: Canon XT/350D, EF 24-105mm f/4 L IS, EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro; EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5, Sigma 18-200 OS; Canon ET EF 25II; Kenko Pro 300 DG, Canon 430EX, Canon BG-E3.

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    We have the same Buddha statuette. I picked mine up in Hong Kong. There must be a millions of them floating around. I've seen them everywhere in South Asia.

    Nice shots and thanks for the review. I may look into this lens myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nqjudo View Post
    Nice shots and thanks for the review. I may look into this lens myself.
    Thank you!

    The nice thing about it is you can leave the lens on for so many shooting situations. Hopfully, I'll get to do some low-light shooting this Wednesday and see if the OS really makes a difference...if I do, I'll post the results. But, my gut tells me, as with the Sigma 80-400 OS, the stabilization will be nowhere near the quality of Canon's technology...but we'll see...
    Some Gear: Nikon D700; Nikkor AF-S 50 f/1.4 G; Nikkor AF-S 24-85 3.f/5-4.5 G ED; Tamron 28-300 f/3.5-6.3 VC; Nikon SB-800; Velbon Maxi-F; Canon Pixma Pro 9000; Canon S3IS, Canon SD500; Epson 4990; Epson P5000; Wacom Intuos 3

    Main Software: Capture NX2; Adobe PhotoShop CS2; Corel Paintshop Pro X2 Ultimate

    Sold: Canon XT/350D, EF 24-105mm f/4 L IS, EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro; EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5, Sigma 18-200 OS; Canon ET EF 25II; Kenko Pro 300 DG, Canon 430EX, Canon BG-E3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTL View Post
    Thank you!

    The nice thing about it is you can leave the lens on for so many shooting situations. Hopfully, I'll get to do some low-light shooting this Wednesday and see if the OS really makes a difference...if I do, I'll post the results. But, my gut tells me, as with the Sigma 80-400 OS, the stabilization will be nowhere near the quality of Canon's technology...but we'll see...
    Thanks for posting your impressions....awaiting your OS testing.
    Michael B.
    Canon 5D2, 550D, Sony NEX 5N, Sigma 15mm fish, 24L mkI, 35L, 40mm f/2.8, 50 1.8 II, Sigma 50 1.4, Sigma 50mm f/2.8 macro, 60mm macro, 100mm f/2, 70-200 f/4, 200 f/2.8 mk I, Tamron 28-75 f/2.8, 430EX. Growing list of MF lenses!

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    It's so damn frustrating...having a new toy and having no time to use it. I still have not done any controlled OS testing, although I did a few "off the cuff" tests. The OS works, but not dramatically so. I don't really care, because the lens focuses so much better than the old one, that alone is enough to make me happy. Also, I have yet to shoot it at every aperture...that's how busy I've been. BTW, I'm using a Singh-Ray Color Intensifier filter that I leave on the lens permanently...it compensates perfectly for the lack of "omph" in the color as compared to the old lens...

    Well, anyways, another random shot...this one out the window...I like it...don't know why, though...

    Like the original Sigma 18-200, this lens is a champ at F8...and the distortion situation (shot at 18mm) is better then you thought, right? It's a hell of a lot better than I thought it would be!



    Exposure Time = 1/60"
    F Number = F8
    Exposure Program = Aperture priority
    ISO Speed Ratings = 100
    Exif Version = Version 2.21
    Date Time Original = 2007-07-08 12:21:22
    Date Time Digitized = 2007-07-08 12:21:22
    Components Configuration = YCbcr
    Shutter Speed Value = 5.91 TV
    Aperture Value = 6 AV
    Exposure Bias Value = 0EV
    Metering Mode = Pattern
    Flash = Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
    Focal Length = 18mm
    User Comment =
    Flashpix Version = Version 1.0
    Color Space = sRGB
    Exif Image Width = 2719
    Exif Image Height = 1924
    Interoperability IFD Pointer = Offset: 850
    Focal Plane X Resolution = 3954.233
    Focal Plane Y Resolution = 3958.763
    Focal Plane Resolution Unit = inch
    Custom Rendered = Normal process
    Exposure Mode = Auto exposure
    White Balance = Auto white balance
    Scene Capture Type = Normal


    Here's one with a Tiffen 3x MC close-up lens (BTW, crap compared to the Hoya Pro1) attached . The results are soft and less than optimal, but still appealing (at least to me)...



    Exposure Time = 1/80"
    F Number = F5.6
    Exposure Program = Normal program
    ISO Speed Ratings = 100
    Exif Version = Version 2.21
    Date Time Original = 2007-07-08 16:58:57
    Date Time Digitized = 2007-07-08 16:58:57
    Components Configuration = YCbcr
    Shutter Speed Value = 6.32 TV
    Aperture Value = 4.97 AV
    Exposure Bias Value = 0EV
    Metering Mode = Pattern
    Flash = Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
    Focal Length = 96mm
    User Comment =
    Flashpix Version = Version 1.0
    Color Space = sRGB
    Exif Image Width = 3456
    Exif Image Height = 2296
    Interoperability IFD Pointer = Offset: 986
    Focal Plane X Resolution = 3954.233
    Focal Plane Y Resolution = 3958.763
    Focal Plane Resolution Unit = inch
    Custom Rendered = Normal process
    Exposure Mode = Auto exposure
    White Balance = Auto white balance
    Scene Capture Type = Normal


    Random fireworks shot...the lens handled nicely in the dark...



    Exposure Time = 2"
    F Number = F16
    Exposure Program = Manual
    ISO Speed Ratings = 100
    Exif Version = Version 2.21
    Date Time Original = 2007-07-07 21:32:32
    Date Time Digitized = 2007-07-07 21:32:32
    Components Configuration = YCbcr
    Shutter Speed Value = -1 TV
    Aperture Value = 8 AV
    Exposure Bias Value = 0EV
    Metering Mode = Pattern
    Flash = Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
    Focal Length = 35mm
    User Comment =
    Flashpix Version = Version 1.0
    Color Space = sRGB
    Exif Image Width = 2564
    Exif Image Height = 1816
    Interoperability IFD Pointer = Offset: 986
    Focal Plane X Resolution = 3954.233
    Focal Plane Y Resolution = 3958.763
    Focal Plane Resolution Unit = inch
    Custom Rendered = Normal process
    Exposure Mode = Manual exposure
    White Balance = Auto white balance
    Scene Capture Type = Normal


    One of these days I will get around to a proper test...sorry to those who were waiting...but earning the green comes first...

    But, for what it's worth, I'm still diggin' the lens...
    Last edited by JTL; 07-09-2007 at 01:03 AM.
    Some Gear: Nikon D700; Nikkor AF-S 50 f/1.4 G; Nikkor AF-S 24-85 3.f/5-4.5 G ED; Tamron 28-300 f/3.5-6.3 VC; Nikon SB-800; Velbon Maxi-F; Canon Pixma Pro 9000; Canon S3IS, Canon SD500; Epson 4990; Epson P5000; Wacom Intuos 3

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    Sold: Canon XT/350D, EF 24-105mm f/4 L IS, EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro; EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5, Sigma 18-200 OS; Canon ET EF 25II; Kenko Pro 300 DG, Canon 430EX, Canon BG-E3.

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    Thanks for posting some more images from this lens.

    The flower shot seems a bit blurry/out of focus, but the city-scape and fireworks shots look both look good.

    Keep 'em coming!
    Michael B.
    Canon 5D2, 550D, Sony NEX 5N, Sigma 15mm fish, 24L mkI, 35L, 40mm f/2.8, 50 1.8 II, Sigma 50 1.4, Sigma 50mm f/2.8 macro, 60mm macro, 100mm f/2, 70-200 f/4, 200 f/2.8 mk I, Tamron 28-75 f/2.8, 430EX. Growing list of MF lenses!

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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelb View Post
    Thanks for posting some more images from this lens.

    The flower shot seems a bit blurry/out of focus, but the city-scape and fireworks shots look both look good.

    Keep 'em coming!
    Yeah...like I said...the flower shot was with a (crappy) close-up lens/filter attached...the Sigma doesn't seem to like it...and I happen to agree...
    Last edited by JTL; 07-09-2007 at 06:54 AM.
    Some Gear: Nikon D700; Nikkor AF-S 50 f/1.4 G; Nikkor AF-S 24-85 3.f/5-4.5 G ED; Tamron 28-300 f/3.5-6.3 VC; Nikon SB-800; Velbon Maxi-F; Canon Pixma Pro 9000; Canon S3IS, Canon SD500; Epson 4990; Epson P5000; Wacom Intuos 3

    Main Software: Capture NX2; Adobe PhotoShop CS2; Corel Paintshop Pro X2 Ultimate

    Sold: Canon XT/350D, EF 24-105mm f/4 L IS, EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro; EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5, Sigma 18-200 OS; Canon ET EF 25II; Kenko Pro 300 DG, Canon 430EX, Canon BG-E3.

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    Hmmm - I've been thinking about an all around lens for a trip to China I may be taking in the fall. (One of my sister's is adopting a baby and I was going to tag along.) The idea is pack for carry on only. So I wanted to take my camera and one lens. Can you post or email me some links to full size images or 100% crops?

    Also: anyone out there try out the new Tamron 18-250mm? It's numbers are pretty good on PhotoZone.
    Last edited by 24Peter; 07-09-2007 at 08:17 AM.
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