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  1. #21
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    Here's some info from Ken Rockwell's site..

    http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/sb600vs800.htm

    *fear*

    The recycle times he posts are different from what I did (so, I may have been mistaken).

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    Quote Originally Posted by achuang View Post
    Rooz, that is one feature that the D80 does have. The D70s is the one that doesn't have the feature that can turn the popup flash on or off. The D200 and D80 both have it..
    how do you turn it off ?? i can only seem to turn the sucker down. pls expain and i will be a happy boy.
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    It looks like if you set the "mode" for the built-in flash to "--", it won't fire, but will control the remote flashes. See page 96 in the manual.

    I don't actually have an external flash to test with, but it looks like what you want to do.

    Rob

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    i just set it to "--" and it still fires when i use the cam in commander mode.
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  5. #25
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    When you set it to "--" the pop up flash doesn't contribute to the exposure it just measures for the power and fires your remotes.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooz View Post
    i just set it to "--" and it still fires when i use the cam in commander mode.
    Whichever of the 2 settings you put it to, the popup flash will still fire because it needs to communicate with off camera flash. It's just if you put it to -- then the popup doesn't contribute to the exposure. With my D70s I don't have that option, it just doesn't contribute to the exposure at all unless I'm at a high ISO or a very large aperture or very near the subject. The off camera flash won't fire if the popup didn't fire. That's how they communicate.

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    thanx.
    i still dont know why it has to fire though. if its controlled by infrared instead of the oight from the flash...why does it need to fire. too advanced for my simple brain. i'll just do what i'm told.
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    I am pretty sure the on-board controller communicates via pre-flash signals to the remote unit(s). I guess I am going to have to confirm this by looking it up... but I think the SU-800 and SB-800 controllers might communicate via another method?

    Ok, without confirming the SU-800 and SB-800 the D80 manual does explain (p 96 - 97) that the pop-up flash will need to be up so that the "timing" sequence can be sent to the remote flash units. It also makes suggestions as mentioned previously to keep iso low, and exposure settings at levels that will not be affected by the pre-flash series.
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  9. #29
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    Interesting? D200 does not fire onboard flash when it is shut off in commander mode.

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    ... But does it fire pre-flash? D200 manual (p163-167).
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