Canon or Nikon? A Poll...

[benjikan]

This was from a Poll from another Forum giving only these two choices, Canon or Nikon. It was a Poll given by someone who in my opinion has been profoundly and inexorably brainwashed and as a result I felt compelled to leave the following message:

My Heading: Neither...All Of and Anything that Can...

This is a false premise...Most of the present day DSLR's can be used professionally. Whether it is Sony, Nikon, Canon, Pentax, Olympus, Sigma, Leica or Samsung. Ten million pixels is more than enough o be published in all types of magazines as well as most poster formats. I have been published using the Canon 350D, just to prove to myself that it doesn't really matter and I could. In fact I once used a Canon G5 circa 2002-3 "5" megapixel camera with hot-shoe and RAW capability allowing me to use off camera studio flash power packs and the shoot was published with this consumer digital camera.

I am fed up with pixel peeping incompetents that spend most of their time scrutinizing the screen on the computer rather than enjoying the act of expression. If what you find joy in is the technical aspects of the anatomy of a camera, perhaps that may be the subject of your post. I can guarantee that if I gave you a 'Blad with a 39 mega pixel back it wouldn't improve on your capacity to express what you are expressing presently and until you understand the need to have "X-Zillion" Pixels, I suggest you spend more time perfecting your art. By doing so you may then ask yourself. Is the tool I am using limiting my capacity to express that which I need to express by being technically substandard? Is it therefore impeding my capacity to express myself? Give me a Nikon, Canon, Pentax, Sony, Leica, Olympus, Sigma or what ever and I will take images that will work because I know the support it will be utilized in.

It is the photographer and not the camera that captures the image. It is through those eyes that we can see a part of the "ID" and what is important to the artist. It is the capturing of that moment that makes the individual unique. The decision as to when one captures the moment is crucial to his/her expression and not with which camera it was taken with.

Ben

[Rooz]

there has been a poll like that here. there are also the usual brainwashed, brand name, mental midgets here aswell. the Net is in many ways a reflection of our world and God knows there is no shortage of idiots and many a village missing valuable members.

[SpecialK]

In many cases, people express opinions as if it is fact.

Other times, a single feature or lack of it is given as the reason something should be avoided.

Some examples:

The Pentax SR should be turned off if panning on a tripod. Nikkor VR II allows panning on a tripod. I don't own a real tripod, and don't plan on shooting photos requiring panning on a tripod so why should I buy a Nikon sysyem at twice the price so that I can do that?

The K100D must be changed to the Tungsten WB setting below 4000k as the AWB does not function in that range. Fine, so change the setting. However, I shoot RAW, so it is a non-issue, anyway...

And, the K100D buffer does not allow more than 3 RAW/5 JPG shots in a row. Sports shooter gasp - but how many catch-as-catch can shots do you really take? Do not good photographers time the shot for peak action - or do they just squeeze the button like a drunken monkey and pick the one good one?

Many pixel-peepers, as Benjikan points out, seem oblivious to the fact some people like to take pictures a hobby.

I have yet to see any photo in a gallery which convinced me that I HAD to have THAT camera.

[Riley]

hi Benjamin
I still use your some of your post production processing techniques
in particular the sharpening and soft light layer
it isn't suitable for all photography of course
but it can really make images pop

I just wanted to take the opportunity to thank you for that

cheers

[Voigtlanderr2]

I use both Canon and Nikon and I can honestly say that there are things I like and hate about both. Canon can take their method of changing the focus point and shove it along with the troublesome little wheel on the back. If Nikon could make the D2HS with 8 megapixes like the 1DmkIIN it would be perfect - but knowing Nikon that will not come for another year or so. and Nikon's 85mm f 1.8 compared to the canon equiviolent is a joke - you can hear the darn thing focus and it isn't hearly as fast as the canon plus it only stops down to 16 where the canon lens stops down to 22 - and yes this has caused me a problem before.(I am not making this charge in regards to all their lenses)

[Djzleite]

It is the photographer and not the camera that captures the image.

Exzactly, iīm new to this world of photo and iīm studing it at school and started for Sony W100, H5 and now just bought the Sony A100 after reading much reviews and opinions, worked with a D200 and tested a D80, D200 was extremely heavy, D80 was more expensive than A100 so i grabbed Sony and the 2 lens kit wich iīm very satisfied, for the quality and 1000 euros price, i donīt think iīll need more soon but specialy to get experienced with this setup, took some photos on auto mode and went to my pc to check them out realy amazing results for definition and colors, things seamed like postcards and sky with clouds simply amazing.
Yeah, if we canīt do professional work with this kind of toys.
Better than my A100 ? well ... maybe 2 A100 was disapointed with having only jpg so i have now raw in high definition and 300mm lens to bring things much near.
After days reading and watching the most going to D80 i couldnīt figure why people would expend more for the same or less in my view.
Each one is free to choose and i think most of the machines around are more or less at the same, they all have plenty of quality to bring amazing results, itīs just a question of taste and price.

[some guy]

Sony is already the 2nd largest seller of P&S cameras. They are poised to take the Numero Duo spot in the dSLR world too. There are some news on a pro-level Sony dSLR coming out soon. I hope it still utilise the KM mount. Zeiss lenses = mucho dinero.

[BBPhoto]

Couldn't agree with you more Benjikan. Some of the best images ever captured on film were done so with equipment that is primitive by today's standards.

[Pokadots]

What forum was it?

[aparmley]

This was from a Poll from another Forum giving only these two choices, Canon or Nikon. It was a Poll given by someone who in my opinion has been profoundly and inexorably brainwashed and as a result I felt compelled to leave the following message:

My Heading: Neither...All Of and Anything that Can...

This is a false premise...Most of the present day DSLR's can be used professionally. Whether it is Sony, Nikon, Canon, Pentax, Olympus, Sigma, Leica or Samsung. Ten million pixels is more than enough o be published in all types of magazines as well as most poster formats. I have been published using the Canon 350D, just to prove to myself that it doesn't really matter and I could. In fact I once used a Canon G5 circa 2002-3 "5" megapixel camera with hot-shoe and RAW capability allowing me to use off camera studio flash power packs and the shoot was published with this consumer digital camera.

I am fed up with pixel peeping incompetents that spend most of their time scrutinizing the screen on the computer rather than enjoying the act of expression. If what you find joy in is the technical aspects of the anatomy of a camera, perhaps that may be the subject of your post. I can guarantee that if I gave you a 'Blad with a 39 mega pixel back it wouldn't improve on your capacity to express what you are expressing presently and until you understand the need to have "X-Zillion" Pixels, I suggest you spend more time perfecting your art. By doing so you may then ask yourself. Is the tool I am using limiting my capacity to express that which I need to express by being technically substandard? Is it therefore impeding my capacity to express myself? Give me a Nikon, Canon, Pentax, Sony, Leica, Olympus, Sigma or what ever and I will take images that will work because I know the support it will be utilized in.

It is the photographer and not the camera that captures the image. It is through those eyes that we can see a part of the "ID" and what is important to the artist. It is the capturing of that moment that makes the individual unique. The decision as to when one captures the moment is crucial to his/her expression and not with which camera it was taken with.

Ben

Thanks for sharing your thoughts Ben. I couldn't agree with you more. As someone once caught up in the technical side I can attest to the obsession it can become. When in fact focusing on perceived shortcomings, whether they be real or perhaps a phenomenon, makes it easier to prolong the inevitability of ones own realizations that perhaps they lack the adequate skills required to really express themselves via photography.

Luckily, I have identified my shortcomings with respect to self expression and am taking steps to remedy it.

The most important lesson I've learned in the past 3 years is this: if you only focus on the gear, you miss the point of this all.