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  1. #1
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    Nikon d50 vs. Rebel XT

    Hi - brand new here, and looking for help! I'm ready to (finally) buy a digi SLR, and after much research and legwork, have narrowed it down to the d50 or the Rebel XT. I am now STUCK. Just can't seem to decide which one (which is probably a good thing, because quite honestly, I think I would be thrilled with EITHER - upgrading from a 5+ year old Olympus C3030 3mp).

    My knee-jerk reaction is to go for the Rebel, largely because of the 8 vs. 6 mp. On the other hand, I know that there probably isn't much FUNCTIONAL difference between 6 vs. 8 at this point.

    Most of my photography involves my kids, but as an avid scrapbooker, I may want to shoot anything that strikes my fancy and inspires an intesting layout - landscapes, nature, family/friend gatherings and events, indoor/outdoor, nighttime/daytime, etc. I plan to get a reasonably-priced zoom lens fairly quickly, but other than that, do not expect to invest in multiple lenses and other "extras".

    I have held and played with both in the store, thought they were both just wonderful. I suppose that maybe I liked the "feel" of the Nikon marginally better, but the "look" and layout of the controls on the Rebel marginally better.

    So, I'm really no help at all. You can see why I'm torn! Thanks for any help that you can offer.

  2. #2
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    In my shopping experience I found that Canon = small hands, Nikon = big hands (at least the D80).

    I would take the D50 over the XT (if you meant the XTi, I'd take that). The Canon's extra megapixels don't do that much for you, and the Nikon has a bit better LCD, plus you can put that $150 saved with perhaps another $250 and get a better lens. Even though it is tempting to get the "kit" lens that comes with the camera for "convenience", they are by nature only fair from any manufacturer. It is tempting to try to get one lens to do everything, but in reality that is nearly impossible. Typically a zoom with a really big range has performance issues at one end or another. The 18-70 range is a decent compromise of moderately wide to moderate telephoto. Nikon has an average-performing 18-135 (sold as kit lens on D80) that may fit your need if you only want one lens. Sigma and Tamron also make lenses for both brands that are normally good quality and a bit cheaper than the "big two". But what do I know - I have a Pentax (and like it).
    Last edited by SpecialK; 12-27-2006 at 10:27 PM.
    Pentax K20D/K5/15/21/40/70/10-17/12-24, Sigma 17-70 2.8-4.5/150-500, Tamron 90 Macro/70-200 2.8, Canon SX20 IS/Elph 500HS
    (formerly Pentax 50 1.4/50-200/55-300/K100D, Sigma 18-50 2.8/70-300 APO, Tamron 28-75, Viv 800, Tele-Tokina 800, Canon S3 IS, Samsung L210)
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    i chose the d50 becuase i dont like how the xt and xti feel.
    either way you cant go wrong.
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  4. #4
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    When I bought my D50 I tried out many other cameras. I went with it because of the way it felt in my hands and it felt much more sturdier than the Canon Xt I tried out. The kit lens (18-55mm) that comes with the D50 is a terrific lens for the money. Many people will say the kit lenses are junk, these are also people who are comparing them to lenses that cost more than the whole D50 kit itself.
    Bob Benner

    Nikon D300, MB-D10, Nikon 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5, Nikon 50mm f/1.4, Nikon 35mm f/2.0D, Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8 VR, Nikon 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 VR Nikon SB-800 Speedlight, Crumpler 7 million Dollar Home

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    Many people will say the kit lenses are junk, these are also people who are comparing them to lenses that cost more than the whole D50 kit itself.
    Actually, it is commented in every professional review and camera test, as well as the vast majority of consumer posts, that kit lenses are really not very good, or if they do perform adequately, it is only in the middle f-stops, or at one portion of the zoom range etc. They cost $100, so what else can be expected?

    None of my lenses was over $375, and that one was only because I got a "fast" version. With a little reaseach and shopping you can get reasonably- priced good-performing lens, though a Nikkor will likely be the one that costs more than the camera :-)
    Pentax K20D/K5/15/21/40/70/10-17/12-24, Sigma 17-70 2.8-4.5/150-500, Tamron 90 Macro/70-200 2.8, Canon SX20 IS/Elph 500HS
    (formerly Pentax 50 1.4/50-200/55-300/K100D, Sigma 18-50 2.8/70-300 APO, Tamron 28-75, Viv 800, Tele-Tokina 800, Canon S3 IS, Samsung L210)
    http://s133.photobucket.com/albums/q78/KylePix/

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    When I took test photos in the shop with Nikon D50 (with kit lens) and also with a Canon 350D (with kit lens), I was much more impressed with the image quality of the Nikon combination.

    How this translates to same bodies with superior lenses is open to further discussion.

    As you can see from my sig, I went on to get a Canon 400D. However, I still stand by my original observation above.
    Canon 5D MKlll & Canon 50D
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    [QUOTE=When I took test photos in the shop with Nikon D50 (with kit lens) and also with a Canon 350D (with kit lens), I was much more impressed with the image quality of the Nikon combination

    ....

    As you can see from my sig, I went on to get a Canon 400D. However, I still stand by my original observation above.[/QUOTE]

    If you liked the Nikon why go Canon? Just curious.
    Pentax K20D/K5/15/21/40/70/10-17/12-24, Sigma 17-70 2.8-4.5/150-500, Tamron 90 Macro/70-200 2.8, Canon SX20 IS/Elph 500HS
    (formerly Pentax 50 1.4/50-200/55-300/K100D, Sigma 18-50 2.8/70-300 APO, Tamron 28-75, Viv 800, Tele-Tokina 800, Canon S3 IS, Samsung L210)
    http://s133.photobucket.com/albums/q78/KylePix/

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    I preferred the results from the "kit combination"....but was still open minded in relation to other combinations.

    While reviewing the two cameras, the Canon 400D was released and it then changed the playing field a bit. It was no longer 6MP v 8MP, but 6MP v 10MP (not critical, but worthy of consideration). I am also a fan of "newer" model items as opposed to one that had been around for a while (not always a good way to base decisions, but again, worthy of consideration).

    I think if it had been down to the D50 v 350D, I would have gone with the D50.

    However, with the 400D I was also attracted to the :
    • 9-point AF (not sure if it is all I thought it would be)
    • auto sensor cleaning
    • depth-of-field preview (also not sure if I am getting full value from this feature)


    There are still features of the Nikon that I prefer, such as the larger "view finder".
    Canon 5D MKlll & Canon 50D
    Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L USM | Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM | Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM | Canon 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro | Canon 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM | Canon 50mm f/1.8 | Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 | Canon 430EX Flash | Lowepro Mini Trekker AW | Lowepro Toploader 65 AW | Lowepro Slingshot 200AW | Kata 3n1-10

    Panasonic Lumix FZ200
    Panasonic Lumix TZ7 (aka ZS3)
    Panasonic Lumix FT3 (aka TS3)

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  9. #9
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    Thank you for your help! I actually ended up ordering the Rebel (before any replies were even posted). I know I keep seeing that the Nikon "feels better" for a lot of people, but quite honestly, having a camera that is a bit smaller/lighter is a feature for me, not a downside. Perhaps this is in keeping with the "Canon = small hands, Nikon = big hands" philosophy... which is not to say that my hands are exactly "petite", but they are smaller than an average male's hands.

    Anyway, the ultimate conclusion that I reached was, I would be happy with either of these cameras and could almost flip a coin. I thought it interesting that even the very good review of the d50 on this site closes with: "Trying to decide between the D50 and the Rebel XT? ... You can't really go wrong with either camera, so it comes down to personal preference." LOL! Here, I thought I was going to get a "definitive" answer! Anyway, the Rebel has been ordered and now I just have the haaaaaaaaaaard task of waiting for it to get here, which probably won't be until after New Year's.... WAHHH!

  10. #10
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    I know I keep seeing that the Nikon "feels better" for a lot of people, but quite honestly, having a camera that is a bit smaller/lighter is a feature for me, not a downside.
    Its not really a smaller/lighter issue when people say the Nikon feels better, its a quality issue. Almost no one who grabs a XT and a D50 would consider the XT to feel better built (the Canon feels like a poorly made P+S camera to many people). People with larger hands are essentially placed in contact with more of the Canon XT and its not very confidence inspiring when the small size combines with the cheap feel.

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