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  1. #1
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    Canon 2006 Promotion - What should I get

    Hello all,

    Canon are tempting me.

    I bought a 400D / XTi in October and got their booklet with cash refunds for purchasing new gear.
    The offer expires on 31 December 2006.

    If I was mad - and had enough cash -, I'd buy it all... but I'm reasonable (well kind of) so I'm thinking of getting the 17-40 L f/4 USM.

    I gather that that's a good lens, right?

    The thing is, are Canon pushing me to buy, and will they be either releasing a newer, better model in a couple of months, or will they greatly slash the price next year?

    I'm not that desperate to but the lens now, but I figure that if I will probably get it anyway, I might as well save some cash on it...

    Thoughts please,

    Thanks,
    jai : amateur photographer

    Camera:
    Canon EOS 400D (XTi) Body - Black

    Lenses:
    Canon EF 50mm 1.4 USM
    Canon EF-S 18-55 IS (on order)

    Accessories:
    Canon ES-71 II hood
    Canon EW-60C hood (on order)
    SanDisk CF 2GB Extreme IV
    SanDisk CF Cardreader Extreme (Firewire)
    Lowepro Slingshot 200AW
    Slik Mini Pro III Tripod
    Manfrotto 055ProB Tripod with Manfrotto 488RC2 Head.
    Canon RC-1 Remote

  2. #2
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    I don't think that lens is in fear of immediate replacement, but I gotta ask why you wouldn't consider the EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS USM instead?
    Christian Wright; Dip Phot
    EOS 5D Mark III | EOS 600D | EOS-1V HS
    L: 14/2.8 II | 24/1.4 II | 35/1.4 | 50/1.2 | 85/1.2 II | 135/2 | 180/3.5 Macro | 200/2.8 II | 400/2.8 IS | 16-35/2.8 II | 24-105/4 IS | 70-200/2.8 IS II | 100-400/4.5-5.6 IS
    580EX II | EF 12 II | EF 25 II

  3. #3
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    I don't think the 17-40 L f/4 USM. is a good buy.

    The speed and added range of a 17-50/55 f/2.8, than the build quality of the f/4L. The Tamron 17-50 and the canon 17-55 both have IQ that is as good or better than the f/4L.

    Take a look at the reviews on photozone
    Take a look at the MTF test results, at F/4 or smaller the 17-40, is third every time.

    Of course, Vignetting is a bigger issue for the EF-S lenses, and both Canons beet the Tamron in chromatic abberations, but ultimately the biggest difference between these three is price, speed, and build quality.

    If all you want is the ego boost that comes from owning an "L" the 70-200 F/4 is a much better value.
    A prime is always a prime as long as its only divisors are 1 and itself.

    Gear: Rebel XTI + Opteka Battery Grip | Canon 17-55 f/2.8 + Chinese Lense Hood | Canon 10-22 3.5-4.5 | 430EX | Lowepro Slingshot 200AW | LaCrosse BC-900 Battery Charger | Digipower card reader with Mood Light
    Elan IIe + crap lenses

  4. #4
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    you can always do what nick did and paint a red ring around it.
    40d | 5d mk II | 2.8/16 zenitar fisheye | 16-35L | 35L | sigma 1.4/50 | sigma 2.8/50 Macro | sigma 1.4/85 | 70-200L IS
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  5. #5
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    70-200 F4 is a great lens as is the 2.8 varities of it.

    The 50 1.4 is a steal if it's same as canon rebates.

    60 EF-S is a great macro lens.

    17-55 is expensive but high IQ.

    Tim

  6. #6
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    Thanks all for your input.

    The thing is, that I'm more into wide than zoom at the moment, so I want to get a medium-wide lens.

    I plan on buying good lenses, that will stay with me for a long time, and I can't see the point of getting EF-S lenses at the moment.

    I've just read good things about it (including on here) and it is a cheap L...

    Don't you all agree?
    jai : amateur photographer

    Camera:
    Canon EOS 400D (XTi) Body - Black

    Lenses:
    Canon EF 50mm 1.4 USM
    Canon EF-S 18-55 IS (on order)

    Accessories:
    Canon ES-71 II hood
    Canon EW-60C hood (on order)
    SanDisk CF 2GB Extreme IV
    SanDisk CF Cardreader Extreme (Firewire)
    Lowepro Slingshot 200AW
    Slik Mini Pro III Tripod
    Manfrotto 055ProB Tripod with Manfrotto 488RC2 Head.
    Canon RC-1 Remote

  7. #7
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    Sure it's a good lens, no problem. Just that unless a non APS-C camera is on the short term horizon there is better product in the EF-S 17-55:
    1) It's faster
    2) It's sharper
    3) It has a greater focal range
    4) It has IS

    These things hold their value pretty well so you can always sell it if you have FF in your sights one day.

    The way I see it; buy the lenses that suit the camera you've committed to today - don't compromise now for the sake of tomorrow unless you are real certain that tomorrow is just around the corner!
    Christian Wright; Dip Phot
    EOS 5D Mark III | EOS 600D | EOS-1V HS
    L: 14/2.8 II | 24/1.4 II | 35/1.4 | 50/1.2 | 85/1.2 II | 135/2 | 180/3.5 Macro | 200/2.8 II | 400/2.8 IS | 16-35/2.8 II | 24-105/4 IS | 70-200/2.8 IS II | 100-400/4.5-5.6 IS
    580EX II | EF 12 II | EF 25 II

  8. #8
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    he's right. this lens will hold its value. you'll end up losing $100-150 at the most even 2 years later.
    40d | 5d mk II | 2.8/16 zenitar fisheye | 16-35L | 35L | sigma 1.4/50 | sigma 2.8/50 Macro | sigma 1.4/85 | 70-200L IS
    website
    disclaimer: posts are for personal entertainment only...not to be taken seriously...ever.

  9. #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by adam75south View Post
    he's right. this lens will hold its value. you'll end up losing $100-150 at the most even 2 years later.
    Who's right? Chris or me?
    jai : amateur photographer

    Camera:
    Canon EOS 400D (XTi) Body - Black

    Lenses:
    Canon EF 50mm 1.4 USM
    Canon EF-S 18-55 IS (on order)

    Accessories:
    Canon ES-71 II hood
    Canon EW-60C hood (on order)
    SanDisk CF 2GB Extreme IV
    SanDisk CF Cardreader Extreme (Firewire)
    Lowepro Slingshot 200AW
    Slik Mini Pro III Tripod
    Manfrotto 055ProB Tripod with Manfrotto 488RC2 Head.
    Canon RC-1 Remote

  10. #10
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    It might be an "L" and have better construction, but in terms of optical quality the 17-55 is superior and has image stabilization, even the less expensive Tamron has superior sharpness.

    I would much rather buy an EF lense than an EF-S, but I ultimately I will buy whatever lenses I feel will provide the best value.

    Don't buy an "L", because its an "L". Both the canon and the Tamron have optics worthy of the "L" designation. The canon is not an "L" for marketing reasons, and you sound someone who won't consider a 3rd party lens under any circumstance.

    Buy what ever will make you happy, if it is the 17-40 F/4, go for it. With the F/4 you are not trading creative freedom for better images. With the other lenses you would gain creative freedom and the potential for better images.

    Don't be impulsive either, I spent the past couple of weeks doing research, and asking opinions before I committed to buying the 17-55 f/2.8. I really wanted to get a camera ASAP, but I didn't want to make the wrong decision based on any one source or opinion.
    Last edited by fractalgfx; 12-19-2006 at 08:21 AM.
    A prime is always a prime as long as its only divisors are 1 and itself.

    Gear: Rebel XTI + Opteka Battery Grip | Canon 17-55 f/2.8 + Chinese Lense Hood | Canon 10-22 3.5-4.5 | 430EX | Lowepro Slingshot 200AW | LaCrosse BC-900 Battery Charger | Digipower card reader with Mood Light
    Elan IIe + crap lenses

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