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  1. #11
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    The Nikon 80-200 f2.8D can be had used for around $500-600 on KEH.com. I have a friend that had one and it seems to be top notch optically.
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  2. #12
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    I agree with the book recommendation 100%.

    Since you wanted tips: After setting your ISO and shutter speed, turn the fan off before pressing the shutter button
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichNY View Post
    Since you wanted tips: After setting your ISO and shutter speed, turn the fan off before pressing the shutter button
    LOL. After all, it's the same effect--a "stopped" fan. Myself, I'd prefer to see little motion to show some "action".
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  4. #14
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    Dave I just purchased a Nikon D70 last week from Ritz camera. Thay had a DVD for this camera the D50 and the D80. Great video about 1hr 20min long. They go over alot of stuff on this video and is great for newbies like myself. I think it cost aroud $20.00

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNB View Post
    LOL. After all, it's the same effect--a "stopped" fan. Myself, I'd prefer to see little motion to show some "action".
    The reason was for
    example:
    my kids are out riding a pedal bike down the street,
    I would like to get shots of that without the spokes on the bike looking blurred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmat5 View Post
    Dave I just purchased a Nikon D70 last week from Ritz camera. Thay had a DVD for this camera the D50 and the D80. Great video about 1hr 20min long. They go over alot of stuff on this video and is great for newbies like myself. I think it cost aroud $20.00
    I was there at the local one last night and they tried tossing a book at me
    so I guess that is all they had
    DVD would be better

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    Quote Originally Posted by davew View Post
    I see the lower the F = the better it is for lighting
    Just remember that the lower the f as you say the narrower the depth of field will be at that low f number so for fast moving sports you need to be much more accurate with exactly what you are focussing on. I try to keep the focus object / person in the centre of the frame and be zoomed back a little more than I would be from a stationery object. I then modify the composition by cropping in post processing.
    The D50 does have a mode that allows the camera to track objects and automatically adjust the focus but I find that with only the 5 focus zones it can often get confused when people move out of one zone and not quite into another. You end up with great well focussed shots of grass with blurry Soccer players. :-)
    There are always compromises in photography.
    Last edited by K1W1; 12-05-2006 at 05:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davew View Post
    I would like to get shots of that without the spokes on the bike looking blurred.
    Where is the "action" in the shot if your kids look like they're just sitting on the bike? And if it is sunny outside, then you won't need a very wide opening to achieve a fast shutterspeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davew View Post
    The reason was for
    example:
    my kids are out riding a pedal bike down the street,
    I would like to get shots of that without the spokes on the bike looking blurred.
    Well if you are using the D50 and take the photo outside on a sunny day, you can probably just set the camera to the sports mode, pan your kids with the camera, and take the shot. In the sport mode, the D50 tends to set the shutter speed very high (as well as automatically adjust some of the other settings) and that should freeze the spokes on the bike.

    It you plan to take photos around dawn or dusk, your current lenses may have problems focusing fast enough in low level light depending on how fast your kids are riding their bikes. You may also need to adjust the ISO, unless your D50 is still set to default and the ISO automatically increases anyway (if I remember correctly). Then a high ISO may result in noise. And there is also the use of a Flash . . . SB-800 time?

    If you ever want to show motion, start using shutter priority instead of the sport mode to gain more shutter control.
    Last edited by TNB; 12-05-2006 at 10:05 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davew View Post
    I would like to get shots of that without the spokes on the bike looking blurred.
    Freezing things like spokes can potentially make photos look very static.
    Here is an example.
    This photo is not wonderful but it illustrates the point. We have a 11yo basically standing still hitting a cricket ball bowled at something around 40 - 50 mph I guess. The shot was taken at 1/500 sec.

    http://static.flickr.com/106/315600360_ae6821cddc_b.jpg

    Cranking the shutter speed up to 1 / 1000 would have frozen the bat but IMO at least would have spoiled the effect.


    (P.S. The body is a D50 with a Sigma 70-300APO lens)

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