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    Quote Originally Posted by ssil2000 View Post
    Looks like a foul defender seems to be behind and his foot has clearly made contact with the ball past looks like obstruction but without seeing a video of the play it's really hard to say... But you can't impede the progress of the ball carrier in any way unless you make contact with the ball first so if he's legged him it's a foul.
    How far is the ball in front of the attacker? He may well of kicked it before the contact at this angle it's impossible to tell firstly because we are at an angle to the play and have no idea about where each player is in relation to the layout of the ground and secondly we don't know whether the contact has occurred before or after the ball was kicked. All we do know is that it's inside the 18 yard box and if the ref was concerned it would have been a penalty from the spot so because that didn't apparently happen I think this is just one of those situations where a photo capturing 1/500 sec in isolation does not tell the overall story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K1W1 View Post
    100% crop

    Quote Originally Posted by tim11 View Post
    Any football pro here?
    Is that a foul?
    Quote Originally Posted by K1W1 View Post
    Hard to tell from that angle. It really depends whether the tackler is behind the other player or not. He's not holding the shirt so the only issue would be his position.
    Quote Originally Posted by tim11 View Post
    I'm new to this stuff....
    Does that mean a leg sweep, or contact to the leg, doesn't automatically get a foul?
    Quote Originally Posted by K1W1 View Post
    Did the ref pay a penalty? I'd be surprised if he or she did.
    Assuming that the tackler is coming from in front of the player with the ball (as I said you can't really tell from that angle) it looks like a legitimate tackle to me. Just getting your legs in the way happens all the time in Soccer.
    Quote Originally Posted by ssil2000 View Post
    Looks like a foul defender seems to be behind and his foot has clearly made contact with the ball past looks like obstruction but without seeing a video of the play it's really hard to say... But you can't impede the progress of the ball carrier in any way unless you make contact with the ball first so if he's legged him it's a foul.
    Quote Originally Posted by K1W1 View Post
    How far is the ball in front of the attacker? He may well of kicked it before the contact at this angle it's impossible to tell firstly because we are at an angle to the play and have no idea about where each player is in relation to the layout of the ground and secondly we don't know whether the contact has occurred before or after the ball was kicked. All we do know is that it's inside the 18 yard box and if the ref was concerned it would have been a penalty from the spot so because that didn't apparently happen I think this is just one of those situations where a photo capturing 1/500 sec in isolation does not tell the overall story.




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    I guess you want to see the forums decline into a wasteland of nothingness hasten then.
    Okay I'll take your advice. It's up to you to post to keep this forum active from now on. The 35 posts you have made in the last 8 years will certainly keep this place alive and well. I wish you luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K1W1 View Post
    I guess you want to see the forums decline into a wasteland of nothingness hasten then.
    Okay I'll take your advice. It's up to you to post to keep this forum active from now on. The 35 posts you have made in the last 8 years will certainly keep this place alive and well. I wish you luck.
    Gee, how did I know I could count on you to respond in such a humourless way? Lighten up for Pete's sake. Did you not note my smiley faces in the thread? Are you really that dour?

    Give someone the benefit of the doubt occasionally. Laugh once in a while. Relax...life isn't that bad. Cripes, you must be a barrel of laughs at the office Christmas party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K1W1 View Post
    How far is the ball in front of the attacker? He may well of kicked it before the contact at this angle it's impossible to tell firstly because we are at an angle to the play and have no idea about where each player is in relation to the layout of the ground and secondly we don't know whether the contact has occurred before or after the ball was kicked. All we do know is that it's inside the 18 yard box and if the ref was concerned it would have been a penalty from the spot so because that didn't apparently happen I think this is just one of those situations where a photo capturing 1/500 sec in isolation does not tell the overall story.
    It doesnt matter if the contact was before or after he played the ball you can't obstruct that's the rule unless you clean tackle which means contact with the ball then the legs the contact there is clearly happening with the ball past the defender but at that level the referees rarely actually know the rules (they are usually players or parents) and are usually too scared to give penalties because (some) of the parents go off their rocker

    I used to ref under 16s and every second game I used to have to evict a belligerent parent for abusing me verbally...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssil2000 View Post
    I used to ref under 16s and every second game I used to have to evict a belligerent parent for abusing me verbally...
    My hat is off to the refs that put in so much work and their own time and yet have to put up with so many boorish parents.

    Have they ever tried this in your league: Silent Soccer (fairly drastic but one can see why things have come to this extreme)
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    Thanks for the discussions.
    There was no penalty for that incident and the boy being tackled was not hurt. It was a semi-final match between the team 1st on ladder against team 4th. It was a hard fought game but there were no boorish parents there to speak about. I just want to understand the rules a little more. Of course things might look worse on stills shots; I understand that.
    Surely this one was a foul then?
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    Ouch! Tim that looked VERY painful (geez...if that's not a foul then I can't imagine what would be!)

    PS. I enjoyed the discussions too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tim11 View Post
    Thanks for the discussions.
    There was no penalty for that incident and the boy being tackled was not hurt. It was a semi-final match between the team 1st on ladder against team 4th. It was a hard fought game but there were no boorish parents there to speak about. I just want to understand the rules a little more. Of course things might look worse on stills shots; I understand that.
    Surely this one was a foul then?
    Has all the makings of the next Jean Claude Van Ouch movie! lol nice shot.
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    Thanks XaiLo. I just wish it was sharper and clearer. It was cropped through since my 70-300 only covers half the field.
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