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  1. #1
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    picture style for 30D

    hi, here is another stupid question of mine. Im just wondering do you guys increase your pictrue style? contrast? contrast? stauration? color tone? im just wondering if i should tweak it higher for my pictures, but somehow i dont like the results, so im wondering whats the best settings for it?

    by the way, does any here does stock photography or library? how do you make transparencies film anyways? thanks
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    I really only use three of the four Picture Styles available: Neutral, Standard, and Monochrome.

    I bump both Neutral and Monochrome up by 3 sharpening points. I may also up the saturation and contrast by 1 point on Neutral as well depending on the image.

    BTW, transparencies are shot using a film camera.
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    yes, i do understand regarding the transparencies, but i was planning to send my pictures for selling purpose, but most the requirements are tranparencies film, so i was wondering how to get over this with digital files? and does anyone know if 8mp is sufficient enough for high saleable pictures?

    and whats is large format, medium format? i do know 35mm are for film SLRs, just been reading a book by Lee Frost. He keeps on mentioning this, but i barely understand it. any ideas?
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    Velbon CX-444 tripod
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    I shoot RAW so it doesn't really matter - but I prefer to keep my style on neutral - everything zeroed out so I can see the closest to an untouched photo as possible on the LCD. I prefer to do all the edits myself.
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    Medium format is 48mmx36mm peice of film.

    The stock agencies will pay you crap and probably be uninteresed in you. If you want to make money in photography you have to sell stuff on your own or shoot for people (weddings, parties, events, paper)

    Tim

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    Quote Originally Posted by timmciglobal View Post
    Medium format is 48mmx36mm peice of film.

    Tim
    I think you are confused with CCDs commonly found in legacy MF cameras. Medium format suggests a camera designed to use MF film, which these days comes in three common sizes: 120 (unperforated; the most common), 220 (unperforated; twice as long as 120), and 70mm (perforated IMAX-style film).

    Unlike 35mm (with the exception of some rare specialist cameras like the Hasselblad X-pan) which is designed around a common gate (24x36mm), The MF ratios are loose, so you see cameras designed around varying capture sizes:
    1) 45x60mm (Bronica ETRSi, Pentax 645), 15 or 16 shots to a roll of 120.
    2) 60x60mm (Hasselblad, Rolleiflex, Mamiya 6), 12 shots to a roll of 120.
    3) 60x70mm (Mamiya RZ67, Mamiya 7, Pentax 67), 10 shots to a roll of 120.
    4) 60x80mm (Fujifilm GX680 II), 9 shots to a roll of 120.
    5) 60x90mm (MF backs for LF cameras), 8 shots to a roll of 120.
    6) 60x120mm (MF panorama backs for LF cameras), 6 shots to a roll of 120.
    7) 60x170mm (panorama cameras from Fujifilm and Linhof), 4 shots to a roll of 120.

    Large format encompasses various modern sheet sizes including:
    1) 4x5" (most common).
    2) 5x7" (rare).
    3) 8x10" (second most common).
    4) 11x14" (rare).
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    Quote Originally Posted by drew_viii View Post
    yes, i do understand regarding the transparencies, but i was planning to send my pictures for selling purpose, but most the requirements are tranparencies film, so i was wondering how to get over this with digital files? and does anyone know if 8mp is sufficient enough for high saleable pictures?
    For sport and event photography, 8MP is more than enough.
    Christian Wright; Dip Phot
    EOS 5D Mark III | EOS 600D | EOS-1V HS
    L: 14/2.8 II | 24/1.4 II | 35/1.4 | 50/1.2 | 85/1.2 II | 135/2 | 180/3.5 Macro | 200/2.8 II | 400/2.8 IS | 16-35/2.8 II | 24-105/4 IS | 70-200/2.8 IS II | 100-400/4.5-5.6 IS
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    CW- Just want to make sure I'm understanding your suggestion:
    Portrait 2,0,0,0 (default) and never used by you
    Landscape 4,0,0,0 (default) and never used by you
    Neutral 3,1,1,0 sharpness upped by 3, satur/contrast by 1
    Monochrome 6,0,N,N sharpness upped by 1

    As I understand this, these settings strictly apply to JPEG and not RAW
    If so, since you shoot raw why do you bother to use any of these settings?

    When do you choose to use standard v. neutral?

    What is the benefit of choosing Monochrome over dealing with it PP?

    Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by cwphoto View Post
    I really only use three of the four Picture Styles available: Neutral, Standard, and Monochrome.

    I bump both Neutral and Monochrome up by 3 sharpening points. I may also up the saturation and contrast by 1 point on Neutral as well depending on the image.

    BTW, transparencies are shot using a film camera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichNY View Post
    CW- Just want to make sure I'm understanding your suggestion:
    Portrait 2,0,0,0 (default) and never used by you
    Landscape 4,0,0,0 (default) and never used by you
    Neutral 3,1,1,0 sharpness upped by 3, satur/contrast by 1
    Monochrome 6,0,N,N sharpness upped by 1

    As I understand this, these settings strictly apply to JPEG and not RAW
    If so, since you shoot raw why do you bother to use any of these settings?

    When do you choose to use standard v. neutral?

    What is the benefit of choosing Monochrome over dealing with it PP?

    Thanks.
    I can't speak for CW with certainty since I don't know his workflow, but I imagine he meant using them in DPP. You can select picture styles as desired in the software, regardless of what you set in-cam.

    As for me, I started using DPP recently and have my camera on Neutral so it's as unmolested as possible. I almost never choose other styles except Landscape since it seems to be a good way to add punch to the colors quickly & easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdi-buy.com View Post
    I can't speak for CW with certainty since I don't know his workflow, but I imagine he meant using them in DPP. You can select picture styles as desired in the software, regardless of what you set in-cam.

    As for me, I started using DPP recently and have my camera on Neutral so it's as unmolested as possible. I almost never choose other styles except Landscape since it seems to be a good way to add punch to the colors quickly & easily.
    I'm importing all my RAW files into Aperature and don't use DPP. Do you happen to know if it makes use of the Styles setting?

    Landscape- Are you upping the saturation value for that setting?
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