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  1. #1
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    A Telephoto Lens?

    I have a 20D, 50mm f/1.4 and 28-105 f/3.5-4.5(MACRO Version) all Canon's. I am looking at a new Canon 100-300 f/4.5-5.6 USM. With hood and shipped, it is $315.00. Also, I am looking at a used Canon 50-200mm
    f/3.5-4.5 L, no hood and $350.00 shipped. The 100-300 has a much faster
    AF speed than the 50-200 L but the optics are much better on the 50-200

    Would you care to offer your opinions, thoughts, buying suggestions or whatever between these two lens. I realize I could explain more about my
    use/need for a telephoto lens but I would rather hear your views about these two lens. Thank you for your time and input.
    Raymond

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    try and save 200 more and get the 70-200 f/4L...it will be well worth it.

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    I agree...save up a bit more for the 70-200 f/4L.....well worth the extra cash and you can find them used for under $500.
    Dave

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    I third the notion to save for the f/4 L as the BEST option for your budget however... between those two lenses i'd opt for optical quality over all else so go with the 50-200 if you're dead set on one of those two lenses.
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    I might have been able to argue with the opinion of one person but with the same suggestion coming from three people, there can be no rational argument. I just wish the lens wasn't white. I feel like it will set me up for a mugging or some other unpleasantness. But, I thank everyone for helping me to give up my lens with a black housing issue. I will buy the 70-200.

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    you know, you never mentioned whether the difference between 200 and 300mm matters to you or not. the difference in mm is pretty noticeable. there's also the 70-300 IS for about the same price with image quality that is supposed to rival the 70-200. it's suggested in just about every tele thread except this one (wonder why?). you give up 1 f-stop with the 70-300
    canon 17-40 L, 70-200 f2.8 L, 400 f5.6 L, 50 f1.4 & f1.8, 1.4x TC, sigma 15 f2.8 fisheye, flash 500 DG Super, kenko extension tubes

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    Quote Originally Posted by rvstanton View Post
    I feel like it will set me up for a mugging or some other unpleasantness.
    well at least if you get mugged, you can quickly take the lens off and beat the guy with it(it's built that tough), put it back on the camera, and then take pictures of him laying there....provided it's during the day and there's sufficient light.

    i find that plastic lenses, although still useful at beating people, tend to break and become no longer useful.

    and i can't say from experience, but i really have trouble believing that the 70-300 could be anywhere near as good a lens as the 70-200. i really love mine, the color is almost too vibrant. the sharpness is almost unreal for a zoom...and like i said, it's built tough(like a ford truck..haha jk) and for under $600 brand new. don't believe me though, go to photographyreview.com and read the consumer reviews..i think it is the highest rated zoom on that site with over 100 ratings.
    http://www.photographyreview.com/sf-...oom_lens-canon

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    here's a few i've taken with my 30D and the 70-200 f/4L

    and this is like the 2nd day i owned the camera and i didn't know what i was doing...still don't, but at least i know better than i did then...so don't rip me on the whole 400 ISO thing, i had no idea what that even meant.

    8.0 1/8000th 400 ISO 168mm...touched up some with photoshop. my monitor sucks, so sorry if it turns out bad on yours...p.s. the sun is directly behind him and this guy is moving at least 40mph here, i know it looks like a slow wheelie but it's actually what we call a coaster where you pull in the clutch and coast behind the balance point.



    at 200mm 9.0 1/1000th 400 ISO
    just look at all the colors in this pic. i can't remember if this is touched up or not, but if anything i just cranked up the contrast a bit.


    at 70mm f/11 400 ISO 1/500th


    at 200mm f/8 400 ISO 1/800th
    and these guys are in the shade...i know not the best to show for this lens but it's all i got without actually going through them and picking some out.


    again, sorry if they turned out bad. i would post up non-touched up pics on here but i'm really lazy. these were already on my server and quickly available. and they're kinda small but there you go. something quick.

    and like i said, the only touching up done here is levels and very little smart sharpen(about 25% at 4 pixels). that's it.
    Last edited by adam75south; 09-23-2006 at 02:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam75south View Post
    well at least if you get mugged, you can quickly take the lens off and beat the guy with it(it's built that tough), put it back on the camera, and then take pictures of him laying there....provided it's during the day and there's sufficient light.

    i find that plastic lenses, although still useful at beating people, tend to break and become no longer useful.

    and i can't say from experience, but i really have trouble believing that the 70-300 could be anywhere near as good a lens as the 70-200. i really love mine, the color is almost too vibrant. the sharpness is almost unreal for a zoom...and like i said, it's built tough(like a ford truck..haha jk) and for under $600 brand new. don't believe me though, go to photographyreview.com and read the consumer reviews..i think it is the highest rated zoom on that site with over 100 ratings.
    http://www.photographyreview.com/sf-...oom_lens-canon
    i used to have the f4 and now the f2.8 so i'm pretty familiar with what they can do. sample images + what everyone else is saying and mtf charts seem to have mostly convinced me that the 70-300 can hold it's own against the baby L. 70-300mm full range available without the added cost of a TC and hassle of removing/reattaching it (terrible with time is critical) + IS at the same price seems like a pretty sweet alternative. if i had to choose between the f4 and 70-300 IS today i think i'd choose the 300. my only concern is the AF speed compared to the L as i don't know how fast it really is.
    canon 17-40 L, 70-200 f2.8 L, 400 f5.6 L, 50 f1.4 & f1.8, 1.4x TC, sigma 15 f2.8 fisheye, flash 500 DG Super, kenko extension tubes

    note to self: don't participate in sad, silly threads unless you're looking for sad, silly responses.

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    Nice shots.

    I also keep hearing about the 70-300. It has IS, but IS is sort of needed at 300mm handheld.

    Like ref said, there's a huge diff between 200mm and 300mm, it's like twice as close.

    Good luck choosing. Of course, you can't go wrong with either.
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