View Poll Results: Which dSLR brand would you choose, today?
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If you could do it all over, again...
For this exercise, you have an imaginary budget of $6500... (Use B&H pricing for reference) for an SLR (not P&S). Out of this budget comes all your camera body, lenses, filters, flashes, software, teleconverters, batteries, battery grips, cases, tripods, studio lights and printer costs (except paper and ink). You must cover a focal range from 10(12)mm - 400(500)mm however you want to (within budget). Every lens must have a "good" UV filter on it.
Which brand and model of digital SLR camera body would you buy?
What lenses would you buy and why?
What other stuff would you also add?
Please take a moment explain why you feel your choice is better, now, than your original choice was then.
Remember... stay in the budget... and use all of it... all purchasing, no renting or lease agreements. The one with the best use of funding (my decision and only one winner) can have my kit lens (Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 s/n 0620573042) This lens has had very little use. I will ship (USA only - USPS) for free. You have ten days. Contest expires 7/1/2006.
Good luck, folks
Last edited by DonSchap; 06-24-2006 at 10:46 PM.
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Look, I did not create the optical laws of the Universe ... I simply learned to deal with them.
Remember: It is usually the GLASS, not the camera (except for moving to Full Frame), that gives you the most improvement in your photography.
I was going to choose Canon as my choice until I read your thread on Canon's focus issues with Sigma and other 3rd party lens, and though there are 2 sides to the story, the seed of doubt is still planted within my soul. Because I have no Nikon seeds of doubt...if I get to do it over again... I would pony up the extra $$$ and put my money into a D200... still waiting to sell my gear though. We'll see.
With your budget though, here is my list
Nikkor 28-70 f/2.8
Nikkor 70-200 f/2.8 VR
I should be in your budget...but if I am over... well I would put the rest on my AMEX!
Naw I know... cant go over the 6500... but Im tired of people telling me what I CANT do DANGIT!!!
Ok, I have to go now... I will check in on this thread tomorrow! I think you opened up another can of worms Don Juan!
Last edited by Esoterra; 06-24-2006 at 11:50 PM.
Ok, I'll try
Canon 20D body $1034.95
Canon 100-400L IS $1399.95
Canon 70-200 f/2.8 $1139.95
Canon 24-70 f/2.8 $1149.95
Tokina 12-24 f/4 $499.95
Canon 430EX flash $239.95
Canon RN-80N3 remote $49.95
Bogen 3221WN legset $174.95
Acratech Ball Head $269.95
2 lens plates $79.90
1 “L” plate 20D Kirk $139.95
1 Cokin WA filer holder $11.95
1 Cokin 77mm ring $13.95
1 HiTech .3 grad ND $39.95
1 HiTech .6 grad ND $39.95
1 HiTech .9 grad ND $39.95
2 Impact BP 511 batteries $69.90
2 SanDisk Ultra II 1 gig $105.90
1 Giottos Rocket blower $10.95
1 Canon 10EG bag $59.95
Cleaning stuff $20.00
For a total of: $6591.85
Canon Rebate 70-200 50.00
Canon Rebate 24-70 50.00
Total after rebates $6491.85
All of the lenses have a 77mm filter size so one adapter ring fits all for the ND filters. I may wish to add a warming filter and a polarizer to the mix after I am able to save for a while. Still even without those filters this set up would get me started nicely in a very professional manner.
I overlap quite a bit with my middle range zoom, but I kind of think of the 100-400 as something I would have on the rig for wildlife and the 70-200 as a portrait/street/all around urban assault zoom. In other words I don't think I would be swapping the two around with each other much.
It's certainly a weighty bag, but I never consider weight over image quality. I could have fun with this kit, it's similar to what I have now with a much better quality short zoom and the addition of the ultra wide which I am currently debating about.
I personally would never take a chunk of money like this and spend it all in one place like B&H even though they are a fantastic store. I would probably find the 100-400 used and probably forego the 24-70 for the older 28-70, again used, saving me a little coin. I would also have gone for a bag like the Nature trekker, but the B&H budget had my hands tied. I also would have scoured Ebay for stuff like the CF cards and batteries, I am certain I could have come in with some careful shopping a couple of hundred less than what I came up with through B&H enabling me to get the better bag and maybe even a Carbon Fiber Tripod. I see many possibilities and too much work tracking them all down for an excersize.
Last edited by TenD; 06-25-2006 at 12:25 AM.
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After 2 years wth Canon DSLR's my vote goes to...CANON! The cleanest ISO's clenches it for me. Now if Nikon could clean up their high ISO noise I might be tempted by the superior AF and flash metering...
Canon 5dII|Canon 5D|Canon 40D|Sigma 15 f2.8|Canon 35 f1.4|Canon 50 f2.5|Canon 50 f1.8|Canon 85 f1.2|Canon 17-40 f4|Canon 18-55 f3.5-5.6 IS|Canon 24-105 f4 IS|Canon 28-105 f3.5-4.5|Canon 70-200 f2.8 IS|Canon 75-300 f4-5.6 IS|Kenko 1.4x TC|Canon 580ex X3|Canon 380exII |Canon 420ex|Sunpak 383 x4|Sunpak 120j x2|Sunpak 622|Elinchrom Skyports
I don't really want your kit lens so I won't play the shopping game...plus I'm way over that with what I have already...
...but I would definitely stay with Canon. Like Jamie, I'm spoiled by clean high ISO, which I tend to use a lot. I'm even on a pair of lowly XT bodies.
this contest is a little complicated and time consuming so here's just a quick run down for fun:
question: the extreme wide and tele ends, that's with crop factor right? as in 400mm on 1.6x is only 250mm, right?
nikon d200, sb 800 x2, 17-55 f2.8, 80-200 f2.8 or 70-200 VR + 1.4x TC (maybe tamron sp), 50 f1.8
i don't know much about nikon or third party ultra wides.
canon 5d, 580 EX x2, 17-40, 70-200 f2.8, 1.4x TC, 400mm f5.6, 50mm f1.4
if i were starting out i'd be torn between cleaner ISO and more pixels which are important for large prints or the crop factore which greatly boosts the macro and tele range that i often shoot.
would need a macro lens for either system, and probably a dynatran tripod and head while possibly saving for something better (like a gitzo).
sorry, i hardly ever use UV's and buying a decent one for each lens is too much $$$
the print setup i want would easily take up half the budget already so i didn't include it
Last edited by ReF; 06-25-2006 at 04:27 AM.
canon 17-40 L, 70-200 f2.8 L, 400 f5.6 L, 50 f1.4 & f1.8, 1.4x TC, sigma 15 f2.8 fisheye, flash 500 DG Super, kenko extension tubes
note to self: don't participate in sad, silly threads unless you're looking for sad, silly responses.
"anti-BS filter" (from andy): http://dcresource.com/forums/showpos...94&postcount=4
Nikon does not have superior AF though... maybe compared to a XT, but a 5D or 30D have better AF performance than Nikons. Faster and more accurate... that is just how things are. I know it seems different at times with all the complaining going on. But if you would actually compare a D200 or D70s, you would realize how good the Canon AF is. This does not mean the nikon AF is not good though!!
Originally Posted by jamison55
Canon EOS 350D, Tamron SP AF 90mm F/2.8 macro, Sigma 18-50mm F2.8 DC EX, Canon EF 70-200mm f/4 L USM, Tokina AT-X124 Pro 12-24mm F4, Soligor 1.7x C/D4 DG Teleconvertor, Manfrotto 724B tripod, Canon Powershot S30
I'd probably go for a Nikon D200 or if the forthcoming Fuji S4Pro will take AIS lenses and work with them then the Fuji S4 Pro.
This would be a tough decision, and with Sony looming on the horizon the picture may change in the future. I just like the way Nikon thinks and it is reflected in their cameras, lenses, and accessories. It is unfortunate that their ISO performance is a stop behind Canon, but that's why I bought Noise Ninja.
I tend to be a minimalist so:
50mm f/1.8 $110
105mm f/2.8 VR Micro $830
Nikkor 10.5 $570
Tokina 12-24 $500
Nikkor 28-70 f/2.8 $1335
Nikkor 70-200 f/2.8 VR $ $1535
Sub Total = $6580
If you want the best it costs more than $6500 add a SB600 four flash setup and a couple of Manfrotto tripods and heads and you're at $8000 real quick. Stick a D2Xs in there and add $3000.
Last edited by D70FAN; 06-30-2006 at 07:04 PM.
D7000, D70, CP990, CP900, FE.
50mm f/1.8, Sigma 18-125, Sigma 24-70 f/2.8, Nikon 18-105 VR, Nikon 55-200 VR, Nikon 43-86 f/3.5 AiS, Vivitar 28-90 F/2.8-3.5 Macro, Vivitar 75-205 F/3.8-4.8, SB800.
Ha! See, I can change...
I don't find noise as objectionable as others. On the other hand, the reduced lattitude with the higher ISOs is more cumbersome.
Sony might come up trumps with their dSLR but as they don't have enough models then I'm not going to be that impressed. Olympus has 3 models under their belt (maybe more). Nikon has several current models on offer as does Canon. Pentax has one basic model with versions that have various tweaks. Fuji and Samsung have taken existing models and applied their own tweaks.
If I swop brands then I'll return to the Nikon fold. I liked Nikon but when I changed they didn't have a camera that would fully utilise my AIS lenses. Now they do, I'm more encouraged to change.