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    How low can I go?

    This isn't going to be the type of thread most would expect! LOL.

    This thread is about my slow shutter speed shooting with my 50 1.4. I thought it was time to share some more real world images too. . . enjoy!

    I desaturated these because I was going for a little something different. I like them but that doesn't mean you should or will, so my apologies. All images Handheld


    1/50 at ISO 1600 1.4 [not as unsaturated as I wanted oops]


    1/60 ISO 1600 1.4


    1/80 ISO 1600 1.4


    1/60 ISO 1600 1.4 [not the sharpest but I like it anyway]


    1/80 ISO 1600 1.4 [again not so sharp but I liked it. she was hard to photograph, the camera was having a very hard time locking focus and she was constantly moving and saying, "take this picture, take this picture" LOL]


    I can do a little better on a stationary person. a little more light helps too
    1/60 F2 ISO 1600


    1/80 ISO 1600 2.2


    The pets, again, sorry.

    1/10 at 1.8 ISO 1600


    1/13 ISO 1600 1.8


    1/13 ISO 1600 2.0


    Well as you can see my images at 1.4 aren't razor sharp and to some maybe not even acceptable, but this was in a dark room at night only lit by a distant bulb and a TV, camera was hunting a lot in the low contrast lighting and those kids were moving all over the place. I think it performed well, but if I were doing this for money, I'd ask for more light for sure [Not that anyone would pay for this kinda "slop"!] But it sinks in more and more with each use - 50 2.0L I know what they are saying. . .

    Thanks for looking
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    Quote Originally Posted by aparmley
    I desaturated these because I was going for a little something different. I like them but that doesn't mean you should or will, so my apologies. All images Handheld
    That second image seems to have a vaguely greenish tinge. Perhaps you should do your desaturation in curves, or at least desaturate each channel seperately? The 1/60 one with her hands on her cheeks is very effective. For some reason it seems more expressive than the one below. In both she is mugging for the camera, but the first captures something of her joy and personality. Congratulations...

    Clyde

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    Hey Clyde. Thanks a lot for your comments - greatly appreciated. that one with her hands was neat. . . She loved the camera. As far as the greenish tint is concerned - one motivation for the desaturation was because the WB was soo shot due to primary light coming from a TV. I used color balance on all of these images to try and help. . .
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    What I want to know is how many you had to throw away!

    1/10s - are you serious? I didn't know you could get IS on a 50mm...

    I like the desat look you've done. It sure is hard to capture them at these shutter speeds without subject movement (let alone camera shake); you must be a patient man!
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    Ditto to what cw said. Shooting sharp handheld 1/10 is kinda show-offy. You are obviously younger and in better shape than me.

    Do you know about the little eyedropper thingys in curves? The rightmost sets a white point. The greenish photo doesn't have an obvious white, but I believe the middle eyedropper sets a neutral grey. If you haven't shot raw, give it a try.

    I suspect that me showing you around photoshop is like the blind leading the eagle-eyed (I remember the multiplicity thread), so take this for what its worth...

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    I wish I could paint like Clyde.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cwphoto
    What I want to know is how many you had to throw away!
    Yes, you've stumbled onto the down side, the majority were throw aways! But thats the beauty with digital, If I shot film, I probably wouldn't have wanted to waste 75% of my film, thus none of those would have every been taken. Enter digital, Everyone is a shooting fool! =) at least I am.

    Quote Originally Posted by cwphoto
    1/10s - are you serious? I didn't know you could get IS on a 50mm...
    LOL - at those speeds Christians, I'm sure you are well aware of the stabilization techniques required to get something useful, elbow on knee, wedge against a wall - all aka the Macgyver IS.

    Quote Originally Posted by cwphoto
    It sure is hard to capture them at these shutter speeds without subject movement (let alone camera shake); you must be a patient man!
    I was at my wits end, but most because when I had the calm times, the hunting of the camera made me miss a bunch. . . since I'm no MF genius especially at 1.4 on that tiny weiny VF, forget about it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde
    Ditto to what cw said. Shooting sharp handheld 1/10 is kinda show-offy.
    at least I got something then because :

    Quote Originally Posted by cwphoto
    I wish I could paint like Clyde.
    I don't do paint like clyde do paint! You can use that freely if you like - it would make a great bumper sticker I think, I'd by one!
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    Parmster - all I can say is, you have an eye for the eyes! Your subjects' eyes jump out in almost every photo. The sign of a great portrait photographer! Keep up the good work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde

    Do you know about the little eyedropper thingys in curves? The rightmost sets a white point. The greenish photo doesn't have an obvious white, but I believe the middle eyedropper sets a neutral grey. If you haven't shot raw, give it a try.
    I'm sorry Clyde, yes - I am aware - although never very much luck - perhaps I'm not skilled enough with that particular tool, but when I'ved tried I haven't like the results - again perhaps a sign of required education on that one.

    Usually, I set my auto white balance. But again, TV light over powering a bulb off in the distance doesn't provide consistent enough light to take a reading off of - which is why you're right, I should have shot RAW.


    Quote Originally Posted by 24Peter
    Parmster - all I can say is, you have an eye for the eyes! Your subjects' eyes jump out in almost every photo. The sign of a great portrait photographer! Keep up the good work.
    Thanks a lot Pete! I appreciate that wonderful compliment. I move my focus points according to where the eyes are located, thats my first priority. Now if only I could come up with a house full of images as good as yours, I'd be on to something!
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