Camera for trip to europe
I will be traveling to Europe this summer for vacation and figure a trip like that should have a decent camera along. My Minolta dimage xt just wont cut it for this one I think. I have been looking at the canon s1, sony h1, and panasonic fz5/7. Due to the trip I would like to stay away from battery packs so that kind of cancels out the fz5/7. I like the rotating screen on the s2 and the fact that it uses SD; although if the sony stick is reasonably priced I wouldnt shut it out, plus I like 2 AAs over 4. I am very open to other brands that anyone would suggest, but would really like AA power. I've read the reviews and all of those sound great, but really want the one that will take the clearest consistent pictures. I have never owned a good camera before so learning how to use this may be a chore, but I can figure it out I think(hope.) I've seen the S2 for $350(figure they are clearing out for the S3.)
* What budget have you allocated for buying this camera? Please be as specific as possible.I would like to spend no more than $550 for the camera, batteries, and 1gig min memory card
* What size camera are you looking for? Or does size not matter at all to you?
Not too concerned about the size, I'll bring my XT along incase I need a small one
How many megapixels will suffice for you?I figure 5 will be more than enough
* What optical zoom will you need? (None, Standard = 3x-4x, Ultrazoom = 10x-12x, Other - Specify)hoping for a 12x zoom, can never have enough
* How important is “image quality” to you? (Rate using a scale of 1-10)
10; I dont want to come back and find 25% of my pictures are garbage
Do you care for manual controls? doesnt matter
* What will you generally use the camera for?
* Will you be making big prints of your photos or not?nothing bigger than 8x10 probably
Will you be shooting a lot of indoor photos or low light photos? probably 50/50 I would guess
Will you be shooting sports and/or action photos? I would like to be able to get some shots at football games or whereever
Are there particular brands you like or hate?Was decently happy with my minolta, but dont really want one going out of business
Are there particular models you already have in mind?Sony H1 and Canon S2
(If applicable) Do you need any of the following special features? (Wide Angle, Image Stabilization, Weatherproof, Hotshoe, Rotating LCD)I have kind of shakey hands so image stabilization
Thanks for your help everyone. I've talked to others and they said either of the main 2 would be good, so I'm stuck on which to actually get.
I find the S2 IS over all the nicest camera of the two with its accurate colours, swivel screen, design and lens. But the H1 is better in lower light because its ISO 200 and 400 is more usable (less noisy). So for non flash photos in not so well lit musea for instance, the H1 is the better choice. BUt under normal light conditions inside or outside the S2 IS will do well.
One thing to get used to is that the S2 IS sometimes will be difficult about focussing, I do not know how the H1 is in that respect. But both will make nice versatile vacation cameras.
But since summer is still far away, I would wait to see what the S3 IS and H2 will offer, they just may be better in higher ISO stuff.
Canon EOS 350D, Tamron SP AF 90mm F/2.8 macro, Sigma 18-50mm F2.8 DC EX, Canon EF 70-200mm f/4 L USM, Tokina AT-X124 Pro 12-24mm F4, Soligor 1.7x C/D4 DG Teleconvertor, Manfrotto 724B tripod, Canon Powershot S30
I'm going in mid may and would like to be able to learn it well before hand. So at this point I have 2 months just about. Also, if it came down to the older model for $100-$150 less than the newer model the older one would win in that battle. I'm going to take an SD card and go somewhere and shoot some shots with the S2. Sadly I dont have a sony stick to do the same with.
I would spend a little bit more money and buy a Nikon D50 for your trip to Europe...well at least, thats what the Nikon commercial here in USA sells to us lol.
two incredibly attractive young couple are walking the streets of Paris and all of a sudden see a photo op, so they put the camera in auto mode, and hand the camera to a Frenchie with a paint brush wearing one of those hats that angle to the side- asking him to take the picture. They smile, camera fires, and a perfect picture shows the couple. So...according to Nikon (lol) if you spend the few extra $$$ on the Nikon D50 you will take great pictures and hook up with some total HOT babe in Paris and live happily ever after....
Haha, As tempting as that is I dont think my travel partner(girlfriend) would appreciate that.
I'm trying to read all I can on these two and the only thing that I think is really pulling me from the sony is the screen on the canon.
Has anyone got it thinking the rotating screen would be great and then end up not using it as much as they thought?
Last edited by gtchief; 03-10-2006 at 09:09 AM.
I always compose on the screen. The all-in-ones such as the S1 IS (read S2 IS) tend to be easier to use as psuedo dSLRs though - at eyelevel although the S1 does have a nice screen.
Originally Posted by gtchief
I guess I'll leave the dirty work to the XT. That still leaves me with the decision of which to get.
I think I'm leaning the sony direction right now. I think if I get into this the live histogram would be a nice feature to have; it actually seems like something that you can use pretty regularly if I understand its function. You basically want a nice curve spanning from one end to the other is what I've gathered. Also, the battery/MC door seems to be sturdier on the sony and the lens cap seems like it will stay on better. From what I've read there are both average on the canon and the cap falls off alot. So as of right now its the sony.
Anyone care to tell me otherwise?
Last edited by gtchief; 03-10-2006 at 12:03 PM.
I went to best buy this past weekend and took some pics with the canon S2. I was mainly playing around with auto mode and really wasnt too thrilled with what I saw when I got home. The shots that came out good were really nice, but alot of them didnt come out very clear. This is both near and far in the store, which I feel is pretty well lit. I was using a basic SD card, no high speed or anything, but was also only taking simple basic shots.
I wasnt able to test out the sony h1 since I dont have a stick for it. Walmart has the sony for $350 right now; so I think its pushing me closer to it.
I'm just annoyed I need/want this camera before all the new stuff is released. I would consider the panasonic fz7, but that stupid battery pack. How do people who have them find the life of the pack to be? As in holding a charge of the same duration and not dying out quickly after alot of charges.
Thanks for everyones help here. Its been great so far.
Panasonic FZ 15 on trip to Europe
Last summer I took my Panasonic FZ 15 to Europe and loved it. The long lense allowed me to shoot everything I could see and the camera's ergonomics made it easy to adjust setttings as I needed.
I brought two batteries and charged one while I used the other. I had no problems with a low battery, especially when I limited my shooting to the view finder only.
My biggest problem was having enough memory, fortunately my wife's family let me burn a few CD's so I could free up more SD memory.
If a digital SLR is not on your options list, you will be very happy with a long lense super zoom like the FZ7 or FZ30. If you are considering an SLR, I replaced the Panasonic with a Nikon D50. It's more cumbersome than the superzoom but the image quality, especially in low light, is far beyond what a non-SLR can provide. Nikon makes a beautiful 18-200mm image stabilized zoom for $750,the D50 is around $550. That system would be awesome to travel with.
Finally did it
Well I finally went out last night and picked up a Sony H1 for $350. I got it home and immediately took some pictures until the batteries died. I put them on my computer and am very happy with how they came out. I went into a completely dark room in my house and the flash lit it up amazingly. I really wasnt expecting it to be nearly that bright so it was great. I definitely saw how the flash over exposes some shots. I can wait to get home from work today and start playing with it more since the batteries will have a nice fresh charge. Thank you everyone for your help and hopefully this will be the camera for me.