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  1. #11
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    The Canon & Olympus lenses ain't gonna perform too well on a D50

    The Nikkon 18-70 is on my shopping list - I plan on picking up a used example from one of the multitude of D70 owners who are upgrading to the 18-200 VR.

    I am aware of it's limitations, and will be buying it for it's wide-angle abilities, not telephoto. Yes there is some vignetting, but as someone else pointed out on here recently, it's not likely to be a real-world problem unless you happen to take nothing but photographs of white walls in bright sunshine
    D300 | MB-D10

    18-105MM F/3.5-5.6G ED AF-S DX VR | 105mm f/1.8 AI-S | 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G ED-IF AF-S VR | 80-200 f/2.8 | 50mm f1.4 | SB-900 | SB-600

  2. #12
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    It also has much more than average barrel distortion at 18mm, more than the 18-55 from Nikon.
    Canon EOS 350D, Tamron SP AF 90mm F/2.8 macro, Sigma 18-50mm F2.8 DC EX, Canon EF 70-200mm f/4 L USM, Tokina AT-X124 Pro 12-24mm F4, Soligor 1.7x C/D4 DG Teleconvertor, Manfrotto 724B tripod, Canon Powershot S30

  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by britkev
    The Canon & Olympus lenses ain't gonna perform too well on a D50

    The Nikkon 18-70 is on my shopping list - I plan on picking up a used example from one of the multitude of D70 owners who are upgrading to the 18-200 VR.

    I am aware of it's limitations, and will be buying it for it's wide-angle abilities, not telephoto. Yes there is some vignetting, but as someone else pointed out on here recently, it's not likely to be a real-world problem unless you happen to take nothing but photographs of white walls in bright sunshine
    Same here. I bought it mostly for wide shooting indoors with my SB-600. The AF-S is a plus as well for shooting people, like my 18 month old It will suffice on the wide end for my landscapes until I buy an ultra-wide, which will probably be the Tokina 12-24. I may eventually get the 18-200 VR to replace it, but we'll see. $700+ is a ton of cash for a walkaround lens. Capture will fix any vignetting I may get with the 18-70, and barrel distortion isn't much of an issue for me for what I shoot.
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  4. #14
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    Would it be better to buy the 18-55 kit or just the body with the Sigma 18-50 and save a little (around $20)?

    Which lens is better, the Nikon 18-55 or the Sigma 18-50?

  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Stanton
    Would it be better to buy the 18-55 kit or just the body with the Sigma 18-50 and save a little (around $20)?

    Which lens is better, the Nikon 18-55 or the Sigma 18-50?
    There are two Sigma 18-50 lenses. A cheap one and a more expensive one. The expensive one (18-50mm f2.8 EX DC) is the better lens in that it has a bigger max. aperture. The cheaper Sigma is best left alone.
    But the 18-55 kit lens actually is very good.. so unless you want to spend more on the expensive Sigma, the Nikon 18-55 is a good choice.
    Canon EOS 350D, Tamron SP AF 90mm F/2.8 macro, Sigma 18-50mm F2.8 DC EX, Canon EF 70-200mm f/4 L USM, Tokina AT-X124 Pro 12-24mm F4, Soligor 1.7x C/D4 DG Teleconvertor, Manfrotto 724B tripod, Canon Powershot S30

  6. #16
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    Forgot to specify, I meant the cheap one.

    What do you think of the Nikon 70-300 as an additional lens? This would leave a small hole from 55-70 or is 55-200 better?

    Or, is it ok to get one "do-it-all" lens instead like the Sigma or Tamron 18-200?

  7. #17
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    The Nikon 18-55mm kit lens is a good lens. It is cheaply built but its optical performance is good. The cheap Sigma is not better, so choose the Nikon.

    Nikon has two 70-300mm lenses. The cheap 70-300mm f/4-5.6G AF Zoom-Nikkor, and the more expensive 70-300mm f/4-5.6D ED AF Zoom-Nikkor.

    The G version is notvery good, the ED version has a much better reputation.
    The Sigma 70-300mm F4-5.6 APO DG Macro is a cheaper but also very good lens of this ilk. It offers an 1:2 macro mode as nice extra.

    Personally I would not care about the 55-70 gap that falls between the 18-55 kit lens and a 70-300 lens. The extra 200-300mm range is much more worth while than that 55-70 area gap, and nothing a step or two can not bridge.

    I would not choose the 55-200, at 200 it loses quite a bit of contrast and such.

    All in all I would choose the Nikon 18-55 kit and Sigma 70-300 APO DG, they offer a wide range for a very low price, with quite impressive image quality for the price. The 18-200 lenses are preferrable if you do want just an all in one lens, but the performance will lag the other two lenses a little bit, and the focal range misses the extra 200-300 (andyou also miss that nice 1:2 macro mode).
    Canon EOS 350D, Tamron SP AF 90mm F/2.8 macro, Sigma 18-50mm F2.8 DC EX, Canon EF 70-200mm f/4 L USM, Tokina AT-X124 Pro 12-24mm F4, Soligor 1.7x C/D4 DG Teleconvertor, Manfrotto 724B tripod, Canon Powershot S30

  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Stanton
    Forgot to specify, I meant the cheap one.

    What do you think of the Nikon 70-300 as an additional lens? This would leave a small hole from 55-70 or is 55-200 better?

    Or, is it ok to get one "do-it-all" lens instead like the Sigma or Tamron 18-200?
    I have the "cheap and nasty" 70-300 Nikon you mention, simply because it is the only lens in anything like it's length available so cheaply. I've only had it a just over a week and it has been either too cold or too dreary here for me to give it a proper workout, however my early experiments suggest that I can live with the limitations ( it is a bit soft, particularly on the long end... and it is "slow" to autofocus - although after my Coolpix 8700 ...) for a year or so while I save up for something better.

    Is it a great lens? Of course not.

    Is it a great lens for $130 bucks: absolutely!!
    D300 | MB-D10

    18-105MM F/3.5-5.6G ED AF-S DX VR | 105mm f/1.8 AI-S | 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G ED-IF AF-S VR | 80-200 f/2.8 | 50mm f1.4 | SB-900 | SB-600

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    Quote Originally Posted by britkev
    I have the "cheap and nasty" 70-300 Nikon you mention, simply because it is the only lens in anything like it's length available so cheaply. I've only had it a just over a week and it has been either too cold or too dreary here for me to give it a proper workout, however my early experiments suggest that I can live with the limitations ( it is a bit soft, particularly on the long end... and it is "slow" to autofocus - although after my Coolpix 8700 ...) for a year or so while I save up for something better.

    Is it a great lens? Of course not.

    Is it a great lens for $130 bucks: absolutely!!
    Note: for $184 you can get the Sigma 70-300 APO. I have a Nikkor 70-300 G. It's a paperweight...
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by George Riehm
    Note: for $184 you can get the Sigma 70-300 APO. I have a Nikkor 70-300 G. It's a paperweight...
    You pays your money and take your choice: I have the Nikon and 54 bucks in my 80-400VR fund already
    D300 | MB-D10

    18-105MM F/3.5-5.6G ED AF-S DX VR | 105mm f/1.8 AI-S | 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G ED-IF AF-S VR | 80-200 f/2.8 | 50mm f1.4 | SB-900 | SB-600

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