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  1. #1
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    No No No, Am I Nuts?

    Well. . . I'm heading down to florida for a week in April and I was saving for a special lens. . . the 24-70 or the 70-200 2.8 L. But, no tax return this year and unexpected $700 repair on my car has ruled out the possibility of getting the 24-70 by vacation time. I was heavily considering that one over the 70-200 due to its convenience factor as a walk around for the trip - yea its heavy but the images are worth it. . . It couldn't be heavier than all my primes in a bag and its way more convenient than switching constantly. . .

    But, I did get paid this weekend for some senior shots I did - so I got that going for me. Which will be able to afford me an alternative. I'm thinking Tamron 28-75 xr di at this point - Am I nuts? LOL.
    Nikon D90 | Sigma 10-20 HSM | DX 18-105 f3.5-5.6 VR | DX 55-200 VR | 35 f/2.0 D | 50 f/1.4 D | 85mm F/1.8 D | SB-800 x 3 | SU-800
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    No more nuts than CDI.
    Christian Wright; Dip Phot
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    No more nuts than I.
    Ouch.

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    Is there an echo in here?
    Nikon D90 | Sigma 10-20 HSM | DX 18-105 f3.5-5.6 VR | DX 55-200 VR | 35 f/2.0 D | 50 f/1.4 D | 85mm F/1.8 D | SB-800 x 3 | SU-800
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    Ok the great 24-70 debate..

    Here is my take on it. If you get a good copy of the tamaron then great. It's obviously slower AF, and there is more QC issues, and it's not weather sealed BUT I don't think its worth it for that range unless you NEED absolute the best image quality. The price difference is very dramatic.

    Having said that though, I wouldn't buy a new one. Check the forums and fredmiranda see if you can find a good used one. Paying retail new cuts the "value" of the lens versus a canon.

    Tim

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    I would not buy a 2nd hand Tamron f2.8 28-75mm, especially because it is one of those lenses that is either loved or discarded... you are likely to get one of the soft ones.

    Another lens that seems to be gaining some fans lately is the Sigma f2.8 24-70 DG. Again, I would not buy it 2nd hand, especially since its a rather new version... so any 2nd hand ones would be from not so happy customers.

    But since you have set your heart on the Canon EF f2.8 24-70 L, you probably will not rest till you have one, so the lens you are getting now may be just intermediate? Since Florida is sunny, maybe it is a good idea to go for something cheap but good, like the Canon EF 28-105 USM II? It will focus faster, if not more accurate. I feel that with all these you do lose out in the wide angle end though... I do not know if you like to take wide shots. And while it is not expensive, the Tokina 12-24 is not really cheap either...
    Canon EOS 350D, Tamron SP AF 90mm F/2.8 macro, Sigma 18-50mm F2.8 DC EX, Canon EF 70-200mm f/4 L USM, Tokina AT-X124 Pro 12-24mm F4, Soligor 1.7x C/D4 DG Teleconvertor, Manfrotto 724B tripod, Canon Powershot S30

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    That's why fredmiranda is a good site, often folks are upgrading not "getting rid of the crap" and will often take test shots for you.

    Ask for a shot of something @ F2.8 wide open, F4, F8 if they refuse they probably have a dud, but most will give you a few shots.

    Tim

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    My serious response is in agreement with coldrain. Get the Tamron only if you can see it as being a permanent replacement for your 24-70 L. Otherwise you're wasting your time and money since it'd be quite an expensive stopgap.

    Personally, I don't trust anything without USM or the brand in question's equivalent (like Sigma's HSM). I even sold my 50mm f/1.8 because of it. Not because of the speed and sound but rather the accuracy and reliability. Every single shot at my cousin's wedding with the 50 was out of focus, even when focus was confirmed. I don't have that trouble with my two USM (24-70, 70-200) or one HSM (Bigma) lens.
    Ouch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdi-buy.com
    Every single shot at my cousin's wedding with the 50 was out of focus, even when focus was confirmed.
    Is he still talking to you?
    Christian Wright; Dip Phot
    EOS 5D Mark III | EOS 600D | EOS-1V HS
    L: 14/2.8 II | 24/1.4 II | 35/1.4 | 50/1.2 | 85/1.2 II | 135/2 | 180/3.5 Macro | 200/2.8 II | 400/2.8 IS | 16-35/2.8 II | 24-105/4 IS | 70-200/2.8 IS II | 100-400/4.5-5.6 IS
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    Quote Originally Posted by cwphoto
    Is he still talking to you?
    My cousin was the bride. Fortunately I had only shot maybe 15 pics with that lens at the start of the day. I wasn't there to shoot, just as a guest. I wanted to travel light so I just had one XT, grip, & the 50. No flash or anything else.

    Later I ran out to my car, swapped the 50 for the 24-70L and put the flash on the bracket, mounted it all up, and ran inside to get some real shots after I saw what the "official" photographer had (friend of the fam, doing it for free, didn't really know much about photography and was shooting with an original Rebel, kit lens, and onboard flash only). By looking at his setup I kinda knew what he'd end up giving her so I felt like I should do a little more.

    I still didn't shoot a lot of pics...just maybe 30 or so more, but they were all in focus and I gave her the best 16 as prints of various sizes.



    And to think I was going to leave my camera bag at home...
    Ouch.

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