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  1. #1
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    Question Lions, tigers, and...LENSES! OH, MY!

    Jeepers!!!! I thought it was overwhelming trying to decide which camera to buy for my FIRST dSLR!!!!! (I've always been digital point and shoot.) I've decided on the Canon EOS 20 D.

    NOW...I need to choose a lens! (I've read the thread on Lens Buying Guide, but I'm still confused/undecided/overwhelmed.)

    WHAT IS A GOOD TELEPHOTO LENS FOR LOW-LIGHT SITUATIONS (like l-o-n-g, down-the-aisle shots or from-the-back-balcony shots at flash-forbidden weddings)?

    I'd love to save money with a third-party lens, but I keep reading that Canon flashes/equipment don't always communicate properly with lenses like Sigma. SOOOO...if I have to do it...I'll pay the extra for Canon lenses, but it's going to be a HUGE s-t-r-e-t-c-h financially.

    THANKS for any and all help!

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    Consider the 85 f/1.8 or maybe the 135 f/2.

    Or you could always try this puppy:

    http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15982
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    If you have about $1600USD to blow, you could opt for the Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L with IS. There's a non-IS version for a couple hundred less but the IS would let you handhold some slower shutter speeds in a church.
    Ouch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdi-buy.com
    If you have about $1600USD to blow, you could opt for the Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L with IS. There's a non-IS version for a couple hundred less but the IS would let you handhold some slower shutter speeds in a church.
    I'd like to add that IS does not help if subjects move!

    But that lens would be a nice addition to any camera bag.

    Long and Fast = Premium price.

    The best bang for your buck may be the 200 F2.8 L However, the 135 F2 is a full stop faster and will take the 1.4 TC very nicely from what I hear thus making it a 200 2.8 but its considerably more expensive to take that route - I think in the ballpark of almost $500 more expensive.

    Lets see:

    Canon EF 135 F2 USM L - $899.99 - BH price
    Canon EF 1.4x TC - 289.99 BH price
    Grand total $1,190

    Might be better especially if you are doing weddings to opt for the Canon 70-200 F2.8 USM L $1,139 BH price

    but ya the Canon EF 200 F2.8 L is 659.99 BH price. will have the longest reach, L, and fastest this side of $3,000 grand.
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    Honestly, Sigma Lenses are great if you are looking for a cheaper alternative with SIMILAR (key word....similar) quality results. Sure the Canon 70-200 f/2.8L IS is a phenomenal lens, but most people have difficulty coming up with the $1600 to purchase the lens. Sigma lenses are a nice alternative and definitely work. The problems come when you upgrade to a different body which may not work with the Sigma, in that case you just tell sigma, send the lens back and they will be able to work out a firmware upgrade, or input a new circuit board to fix the problem. Usually the major difference between 3rd party and 1st party lenses is The focus speed and sound, but most everything else is the same. I recently purchased the Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 EX DG Macro DF ($400) instead of the Canon 24-70 f/2.8L ($1200) and have been very happy (thus far) with the results.
    All this is because you may want to look at the Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 EX DG APO HSM ($789.00) A great price for a lens that is probably pretty decent quality. The Comparable product would be the Canon 70-200 f/2.8L ($1200)

    As a side note...I Personally, unless you have 2 camera bodies - I don't think a long prime is a good idea at a wedding, definitely not versatile enough for the ever changing, always unpredictable wedding atmosphere.

    Ken
    Last edited by ktixx; 01-05-2006 at 04:33 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ktixx
    Honestly, Sigma Lenses are great if you are looking for a cheaper alternative with SIMILAR (key word....similar) quality results. Sure the Canon 70-200 f/2.8L IS is a phenomenal lens, but most people have difficulty coming up with the $1600 to purchase the lens. Sigma lenses are a nice alternative and definitely work. The problems come when you upgrade to a different body which may not work with the Sigma, in that case you just tell sigma, send the lens back and they will be able to work out a firmware upgrade, or input a new circuit board to fix the problem. Usually the major difference between 3rd party and 1st party lenses is The focus speed and sound, but most everything else is the same. I recently purchased the Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 EX DG Macro DF ($400) instead of the Canon 24-70 f/2.8L ($1200) and have been very happy (thus far) with the results.
    All this is because you may want to look at the Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 EX DG APO HSM ($789.00) A great price for a lens that is probably pretty decent quality. The Comparable product would be the Canon 70-200 f/2.8L ($1200)

    As a side note...I Personally, unless you have 2 camera bodies - I don't think a long prime is a good idea at a wedding, definitely not versatile enough for the ever changing, always unpredictable wedding atmosphere.

    Ken
    I agree - the prime won't be flexible enough at the reception, but during the ceremony, if you are parked in the back or somewhere on sides away from center stage so to speak, it would be fine. I can't speak from wedding experience, but If my target is going to be a fixed distance away, I know primes work well in those instances.

    I think Ken has a very valid point here though, if you are going to do weddings and you are going to make the investment - it might be more economical to get something not top of line, until the revenue comes in to upgrade your gear. But in circumstances were low light is par, you need fast glass and that unfortunately is a premium over 100mm - and when flash is used I know a few guys here have had 3rd party lenses fall short of performing well paired with a flash - I believe the problem lies in improper distance info communication from the lens to the body.
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    Incredibly helpful input!

    Gosh, THANKS, everybody!!!!

    All this input is INCREDIBLY helpful. I'm going to investigate ALL of these options.

    THANKS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by texascam
    Gosh, THANKS, everybody!!!!

    All this input is INCREDIBLY helpful. I'm going to investigate ALL of these options.

    THANKS!
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