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  1. #1
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    Lens question re: 20D

    So I'm wondering if my lens set up is alright, or if I should trade some in and get some others instead and would love any feedback.

    I currently have:

    Canon EF 28-135 IS
    " EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro
    " EF 50mm f/1.8 II
    " EF-S 10-22 (not sure if I should keep this, as it is really expensive...)

    The first Lens I bought was the 24-70L, but it was just way too much lens for me -- though I LOVED THE IMAGE QUALITY, (and I have a crazy eye for detail so I did love that) it was just too heavy for me to feel comfortable with it as an every day lens. I had the Rebel XT then, however, and often wonder if it might feel better balanced on my 20D body... I like the 28-135, though I was spoiled by the "L" quality and thus, am not always THRILLED with it, but I do like it's versatility and weight -- though it lacks on the wide angle for me... I love my 100mm macro lens, and am happy with that and plan to keep it. The 50mm to me, is a no brainer -- great image quality and so soo affordable, I will definitely keep that. I do a lot of photo journalism and like to take creative shots and feel the wide angle will allow me to have a lot of fun... once the rain stops and I can try it out! (it just came yesterday...) I just miss the "L" quality... and am wondering if I should have the 24-105 (though it's sooo expensive and I'm not sure I can afford it..) or maybe the 70-200 f/4.0 L... as I miss a lot of shots at my son's soccer and ultimate frisbee games... Sorry to ramble, I feel like I've got myself in a lens funk... and am just looking for feedback on a few good lenses you feel might cover all the bases... I'm not sure if I should keep the 10-22 as it's so limited... yet so expensive... ?

    Thanks in advance

    ** Lisa
    Last edited by Princeli; 11-22-2005 at 02:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Princeli
    So I'm wondering if my lens set up is alright, or if I should trade some in and get some others instead and would love any feedback.

    I currently have:

    Canon EF 28-135 IS
    " EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro
    " EF 50mm f/1.8 II
    " EF-S 10-22 (not sure if I should keep this, as it is really expensive...)

    The first Lens I bought was the 24-70L, but it was just way too much lens for me -- though I LOVED THE IMAGE QUALITY, (and I have a crazy eye for detail so I did love that) it was just too heavy for me to feel comfortable with it as an every day lens. I had the Rebel XT then, however, and often wonder if it might feel better balanced on my 20D body... I like the 28-135, though I was spoiled by the "L" quality and thus, am not always THRILLED with it, but I do like it's versatility and weight -- though it lacks on the wide angle for me... I love my 100mm macro lens, and am happy with that and plan to keep it. The 50mm to me, is a no brainer -- great image quality and so soo affordable, I will definitely keep that. I do a lot of photo journalism and like to take creative shots and feel the wide angle will allow me to have a lot of fun... once the rain stops and I can try it out! (it just came yesterday...) I just miss the "L" quality... and am wondering if I should have the 24-105 (though it's sooo expensive and I'm not sure I can afford it..) or maybe the 70-200 f/4.0 L... as I miss a lot of shots at my son's soccer and ultimate frisbee games... Sorry to ramble, I feel like I've got myself in a lens funk... and am just looking for feedback on a few good lenses you feel might cover all the bases... I'm not sure if I should keep the 10-22 as it's so limited... yet so expensive... ?

    Thanks in advance

    ** Lisa
    Isn't that just the beauty of good resale values?

    The main hole I see is the speed and image quality of your main walk-around (28-135 IS). It's good, but it sounds like you yearn for nothing less than excellence. As for solving that? The 24-105L would.

    Also; not a lot on the tele end. The 70-300 IS would be a great soccer lense. Image quality is surprisingly close to the 70-200L, and the extra reach and IS could make it a winner. Maybe get that now and wait for the 24-105L to drop.

    The 10-22 is a lot for an EFS lens. However; it has great results.

    It's not how often it gets mounted, it's how much you Ohhhh and Ahhhhh and feel all satisfied when viewing the results. (hey, this is a family station ...)
    Last edited by Vich; 11-22-2005 at 03:32 PM.
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  3. #3
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    Keep the following:
    * EF-S 10-22mm, it's your only wide lens and a good lens at that.
    * EF 50mm, great value and not worth the small sum you'd get selling it.

    Sell the rest and replace with EF 24-105mm L and 70-300 IS as suggested.

    It always surprises me how many people I meet on here have Macro lenses. I can understand if Macro is your specialisation as a pro, or if you are mad keen on close-up work as an amateur, but I can't understand having such a specialised lens if you are just a general photography enthusiast.

    I do Macro fairly regularly (close-up of rings at weddings etc) but still can't justify the purchase (I use tubes for SF and a bellows for MF) - I'd have to get a gig photographing jewellery for that.
    Christian Wright; Dip Phot
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    Wink

    Hmmm. I'm leaning towards the 24-105mm L but can't part with my macro. I am a macro nut... I am an artist who likes to invoke different ways of seeing -- and thus, Macro is my passion -- kind of capturing those things that often get missed... I appreciate all the feedback though... and commentary!

    * L

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    Well that makes perfect sense if you are a Macro nut!
    Christian Wright; Dip Phot
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    L: 14/2.8 II | 24/1.4 II | 35/1.4 | 50/1.2 | 85/1.2 II | 135/2 | 180/3.5 Macro | 200/2.8 II | 400/2.8 IS | 16-35/2.8 II | 24-105/4 IS | 70-200/2.8 IS II | 100-400/4.5-5.6 IS
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    Shoot, now I wish I kept the 24-70....

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    That 100 has always appealed to me as a wonderful lense. Don't blame you - Macro is a fun pursuit. I don't know if extension tubes can replace a good macro prime like yours.

    I'm actually dumping my whole lense lineup and starting fresh (still debating about keeping my Tamron 28-75 f2.8, just because its so good and that lense has bad copies - thus leaving an option for events where f4.0 isn't enough).

    My ideal lineup, meaning realistically within my reach over the next 2 years and what I'll probably try for (subject to evolvement of course).

    1. Canon 24-105L f4.0 IS (in the mail) Everyday lense. Light and good for 90% of everything. I'm not sure of the lack of f2.8 will work out. If not; it'll be replaced by the heavier 24-70 f2.8.

    2. Canon 50mm f1.4 (in the mail) Everyday prime + portriats. Don't see this ever going away.

    3. Canon 300 f4.0 IS or 70-200 f2.8 IS + TC or Canon 70-300 f4.5-5.6 IS (will replace my Sigma 70-300 APO DC Macro). Possibly a Bigma will fill this bracket.
    I do live 400 feet from a 5 sq mile bird sanctuary.

    4. Wide (non EFS) Zoom like the 16-35 f2.8. Jewel for stellar low-light close work like parties - or for landscapes.

    5. 1.4 TC. For the extra reach on top of the 300mm.

    6. Canon 35L. This should offer the best advantage for my product shots. That is, after all, what actually pays for this whole hobby (in a round-about way).

    7. Oops; 1 more would be too many. This is where the 100 macro would have gone. Maybe I'll save that for XMAS 4 years from now. By then, the next expense will be whatever the cheapest Canon FF camera is (or a used 5D).

    8. Somehow; a whim purchase of the 85 f1.8 is missing, but is bound to happen. Just because I like that lense so much. That will likely be the solution for the f4.0 on the 24-105L.
    Last edited by Vich; 11-22-2005 at 07:41 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Princeli
    Shoot, now I wish I kept the 24-70....
    I'm sure you won't loose too much to trade back - if you go used. 28-135 IS for a 24-70, no comparison (except for portability). I'm still very unsure if my 24-105 f4.0 was the right choice. Without f2.8, some shots will be impossible and others will be lacking (and the other 90% will be sharper due to IS). Tough call. It is lighter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vich
    That 100 has always appealed to me as a wonderful lense. Don't blame you - Macro is a fun pursuit. I don't know if extension tubes can replace a good macro prime like yours.

    I'm actually dumping my whole lense lineup and starting fresh (still debating about keeping my Tamron 28-75 f2.8, just because its so good and that lense has bad copies - thus leaving an option for events where f4.0 isn't enough).

    My ideal lineup, meaning realistically within my reach over the next 2 years and what I'll probably try for (subject to evolvement of course).

    1. Canon 24-105L f4.0 IS (in the mail) Everyday lense. Light and good for 90% of everything. I'm not sure of the lack of f2.8 will work out. If not; it'll be replaced by the heavier 24-70 f2.8.

    2. Canon 50mm f1.4 (in the mail) Everyday prime + portriats. Don't see this ever going away.

    3. Canon 300 f4.0 IS or 70-200 f2.8 IS + TC or Canon 70-300 f4.5-5.6 IS (will replace my Sigma 70-300 APO DC Macro). Possibly a Bigma will fill this bracket.
    I do live 400 feet from a 5 sq mile bird sanctuary.

    4. Wide (non EFS) Zoom like the 16-35 f2.8. Jewel for stellar low-light close work like parties - or for landscapes.

    5. 1.4 TC. For the extra reach on top of the 300mm.

    6. Canon 35L. This should offer the best advantage for my product shots. That is, after all, what actually pays for this whole hobby (in a round-about way).

    7. Oops; 1 more would be too many. This is where the 100 macro would have gone. Maybe I'll save that for XMAS 4 years from now. By then, the next expense will be whatever the cheapest Canon FF camera is (or a used 5D).

    8. Somehow; a whim purchase of the 85 f1.8 is missing, but is bound to happen. Just because I like that lense so much. That will likely be the solution for the f4.0 on the 24-105L.
    Too funny - dumping it all eh? I can empathize... really! Impressive stable you have planned there sir... I'm envious. Wow, and I worry about taking my car to the shop... and I spend crazy money like this on photo equiptment -- yikes, but I LOVE TO! I don't want clothes or jewelry -- just LENSES! You know, I don't know about the 24-105L... at that price... f4.0.... not sure.

    I think I'm going to have to try for the 24-70L... How much do you think I can find one for used? Will I miss the IS though? I don't feel like I know enough about the technical aspect yet to do well without it!


    * Lisa

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    For the 24-70 range, I think IS is not so important (nice to have). For the teles though it's a fantastic tool. That's why I sprung for the 2.8.
    Christian Wright; Dip Phot
    EOS 5D Mark III | EOS 600D | EOS-1V HS
    L: 14/2.8 II | 24/1.4 II | 35/1.4 | 50/1.2 | 85/1.2 II | 135/2 | 180/3.5 Macro | 200/2.8 II | 400/2.8 IS | 16-35/2.8 II | 24-105/4 IS | 70-200/2.8 IS II | 100-400/4.5-5.6 IS
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