I wont have a patient group so Ill try the ML-L3 way then. I looked at the sun today and its not that high in the sky at noon now with winter approaching. I'll still stick with indirect light in case...
First post here, got my extension tube with my 50mm, handheld http://www.gel.ulaval.ca/%7Ebelang30/spider0.jpg
50mm f1.8 at f10
1/160s
iso 200
20mm+36mm extension tube