My motivations to go with SONY came from, I guess three different aspects ...
- I already had several relatively nice lenses from my "Minolta" days
- Canon not putting stability in the camera body. I wrote to them and asked them to do so, but they chose to ignore my advice. Hey, I'm a paying customer ... and it's my money ... adios!
- Buying Canon lenses with IS in them is unbelievably expensive, for something I get "for free" in my camera body! Any lens I "strap on" ... shake shake shake ... gone!
So, SONY gets the nod and here we is! Makes perfect sense to me. :rolleyes:
i was never a Sony fan but was always a Minolta fan so here is is!
plus IS is icing on the cake.
I tell you, Elisha ... when Minolta folded ... I was crushed. I was just getting ready to make the move to digital ... and suddenly, they were gone (circa 2005). Understanding SONY had bought the entire Camera Division and the "A"mount was interesting, but I needed a camera system and like ... right now. So, I up and bought the EOS 20D, the EOS-3 and several TAMRON Canon-mount lenses. Without the SONY A100 in the picture, so to speak, to contrast it with, it was what it was. Over and over, I kept running into issues where IS was a very nice to have commodity, but the lens offerings were, as I stated, extremely pricey. Plus, not a single PRIME lens, under 200mm, had IS in it. So, in a way, it was "half-assed with half-fast glass. (f/2.8 at best)"
Anyway, in July 2006, the A100 was released and while not a perfect camera ... it was pretty good with my existing glass. I did a lot of comparison shoots and found the "built-in-the body-stability" to be just the answer.
When the A700 was released, it was, in my estimation, the "final solution." It simply had nearly EVERYTHING you could want in a camera body. Oh sure, they have developed some other novel features since, but when it comes to having all the basics ... YES SIR!
So, sticking with Minolta/SONY has been the right choice. Once you have the A700 and the glass ... you are ready to rock with the big boys. Let them know you have arrived! :D
That's HYSTERICAL! ROFLLLLL! eh, you did what you could
Originally Posted by DonSchap
You on the other hand, how could you!?! lol... that's a really sad story. maybe your cousin will come around. It really make sense for family members to get one system. That way you can share lenses, accessories, and what not when you're together. It just makes life simpler that way. Oh well, your cousins loss not getting to share all your goodies!
Originally Posted by Elisha82
I can actually do 1/8 or I've even done 1/6 sec hand held with SSS with the 50mm/1.7. It's harder for me to do with the 17-50mm, but 1/10 is entirely doable. Seems with a lighter lens and me gripping the RC2 plate with my left hand under neath, I can get a pretty damn steady shot. Let me see if I can get an example.
Originally Posted by DonSchap
he's already gotten the XSi so it's hard for me to tell him he made a bad choice.
if i hadn't gotten the a300, i would have gotten the D80 myself.
i've actually done a 1/3 and many other slow shutter shots with my prime at ISO 1600 in a glow in the dark mini put place
Steady as she goes ...
@ Dr4gon: I was not trying to set a record, but merely demonstrate the ease with which you can shoot the SONY with SSS and get something that looks ... well, sharp.
Originally Posted by dr4gon
Most people shake like a leaf in the breeze when you hand them your camera. They have no concept of proper breathing when taking an image or other handling techniques -> Just up to the face and bang! The SONY caters to that kind of crappy handhold and delivers the goods, despite the lens. Of course, longer lenses are far more sensitive or less forgiving (apparently) to movement. We all can argue that, too ... but why? Just dump the non-SSS body and go with a "clear" choice. :D
Provided are 1:1 crops of the following:
(1/15 sec, see below)
Just for fun, Here goes: (caption under image)
1/4 sec, elbows leaning on table, not really trying here SSS on
1/8 sec standing, SSS on, I'm bad at standing
1/6 sitting upright, SSS on
1/10 sitting upright, SSS off
1/10, sitting upright SSS on, not much a difference
1/8 sitting upright, SSS on
1/15, sitting upright, sss on
SSS does help get more clear shots! These are my best, some didin't turn out too hot under 1/10 lol...
Looking more at these on the forum, they look slightly better on the computer in lightroom (RAW). Also zooming out (not 1:1) looks significantly better and you cannot tell there was any shake or blur at all. ;)
Scrolls through the above shots and wonders dr4gon how BIG are your hands! what do you do for a living? does it involve having huge grip strength? are you focused on your inner chi, how much Yoga does it take to center yourself LOL. Do you also 'shoot' dr4gon? anyway nice work.
makes note to lay off the coffee.
I just try to keep the little square on a single target and just focus on keeping it there during the duration of the shot. It does help to practice a little bit. I remember Don came up with an exercise to improve on shooting at low shutter speeds, that seemed to help a bit, but I really just try to keep steady and shoot. Like I said, they don't always come out this good. Usually when I'm excited about what I'm shooting it's much harder for me to be calm and focus lol. My feet get all wobbly and I start to sway.
Originally Posted by seanhoxx
Try sitting down and doing a few at 1/13, SSS on @ 50mm and go from there (slowly increase shutter speed to 1/8).
Nah I haven't read that one, but I'll have a look this weekend. Cheers dr4gon :)
Originally Posted by dr4gon