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Démerise
08-31-2004, 11:22 AM
I lost a Nikon camera (F90X) and I'm at the point to buy an other one. I woark now with the Nikon coolpix 5400 but the limits exist. So I'm not sure to buy a Nikon F100 with all the possibilities of photography this cam have. And on the other side the Nikon D70 is a beautiful camera and seem to work well, BUT no USB high speed, no fire-wire interface too, only 6.1 MP and someone told me that the low exposure sometimes happens. However, the Canon 300 D have those interfaces, but we have to buy to lenses (and I have Nikon lenses). So the whole point is does Nikon will give us an other dSLR soon, whith the same characteristics or more, that the Canon 300D. :)
Ausin
09-01-2004, 03:53 AM
Hi,
I had EOS 300 film version for years and I don't like it much ! When I researched 300D I found similar issues with it, warm colours, no flexibility in manual settings, slow picture processing, focusing and start-up and cheap body construction (I am afraid to say it's typical Canon with 300 series - cut-price consumer version).
Nikon D70 on the other hand has all the features pricier professional Nikon cameras have. It is fast with much better colour balance. I was considering selling all my Canon lenses at loss but buy D70 (couldn't raise enough though !? ). I can't belive you were thinking of doing the opposite !
(USB2 is not much off an issue, a USB2 CF reader is about £25...)
Although Canon 10D and 20D are another proposition and I am only comparing 300D and D70 here. IMO D70 beats 300D hands down...
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jamison55
09-01-2004, 07:17 AM
Hi,
I had EOS 300 film version for years and I don't like it much ! When I researched 300D I found similar issues with it, warm colours, no flexibility in manual settings, slow picture processing, focusing and start-up and cheap body construction (I am afraid to say it's typical Canon with 300 series - cut-price consumer version).
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You had the same issues with pictures being too warm on your EOS300 film camera??? Did you have a digital back on it?? On a film camera the camera has nothing to do with the warmth of the images...it's the film. Your other assertions about your EOS300 are equally absurd - slow picture processing? On a film camera? Slow start-up? On a film camera? No flexibilbity in manual settings? What other manual settings do you want?
Have you ever used a DReb in a real life setting or just played with one in the store? The fact remains that the DReb is a quality instrument that takes great pictures, and remains the best value in digital photography! I use one in my semi-pro photograhy business, and I have seen other pro studios using them as well. Starting from scratch, I was able to purchase my DReb with three lenses for the price of the D70 Kit! Unfortunately Nikon snobs can't pass up on a chance to malign this ground breaking product.
Having said that, I think Nikon hit a home run with the D70. In fact they seem to have created a camera that was better than the more expensive D100 (they may have suceeded too well, in other words). If I had a stable of Nikon glass like Démerise, I would have gone with the D70. He will certainly pay more for the DReb and a few quality lenses, than just the D70 body.
Ausin
09-01-2004, 08:09 AM
Hi,
I expected this on the Canon forum, but to be fair D70 _IS_ a better camera than 300D (a bit more expensive of course).
On 300 film : The colour balance is warmer than other cameras - using the _SAME_ film (good or bad films). In many photography situations, when there is no time (not in the studio where you have many equipment and an ideal setup or on a tripod with all the afternoon to play around) the focusing and mettering lets you down occasionally (in Auto and other shooting modes - not in manual, that would be my shortcoming !). No spot-metering mode. No memory for selected focusing points.
On 300D digital : All my other comments _WERE_ about 300D, everything I said can be read from www.dpreview.com review of the 300D and it's comparison with D70 (and other reviews on the web). Can't select metering (specially spot-metering) in all shooting modes (disaster result if somebody sitting in front of a bright window or against the sun - not everyone is a professional photographer !).
Of course 300D is a great camera, takes great pictures, no denying that. But I thought we were comparing it with D70 ! That was all...
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George Riehm
09-01-2004, 08:15 AM
You had the same issues with pictures being too warm on your EOS300 film camera??? Did you have a digital back on it?? On a film camera the camera has nothing to do with the warmth of the images...it's the film. Your other assertions about your EOS300 are equally absurd - slow picture processing? On a film camera? Slow start-up? On a film camera? No flexibilbity in manual settings? What other manual settings do you want?
Have you ever used a DReb in a real life setting or just played with one in the store? The fact remains that the DReb is a quality instrument that takes great pictures, and remains the best value in digital photography! I use one in my semi-pro photograhy business, and I have seen other pro studios using them as well. Starting from scratch, I was able to purchase my DReb with three lenses for the price of the D70 Kit! Unfortunately Nikon snobs can't pass up on a chance to malign this ground breaking product.
Having said that, I think Nikon hit a home run with the D70. In fact they seem to have created a camera that was better than the more expensive D100 (they may have suceeded too well, in other words). If I had a stable of Nikon glass like Démerise, I would have gone with the D70. He will certainly pay more for the DReb and a few quality lenses, than just the D70 body.
I definately agree with Jamison55. The DReb is an excellent camera for the price, and would be my recommendation for anyone switching from Canon film dSLR or considering a high end all-in-one in the $800-$900 range. When I bought my D70 the DReb was my other first choice. But the D70 had the extra features that I wanted, so that's what I bought.
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