One Canon camera has not been mentioned

[ProblemSolver]

Well, as far as I know, many have been jumping up and down in January/Early February about the upgrade to the Ixus 500, S1 IS, Pro 1, G6 and A95. So, what about the S70's upgrade? How come it's not being mentioned?

Anyway, what will happen to the Powershot S80? 8 megapixels (And above) is entering dSLR territory. Will the Powershot S80 (And even G6) have 8 megapixels? And will the Pro 1 have 9 megapixels? :confused: This will be very interesting - The year advanced P&S cameras enter "dSLR Land" :eek:

[zero]

Will the Powershot S80 (And even G6) have 8 megapixels? And will the Pro 1 have 9 megapixels? :confused: This will be very interesting - The year advanced P&S cameras enter "dSLR Land" :eek:

Yes, thats exactly what I was thinking. If S80, G7 and Pro2, all have just about the same amount of MPs and all have manual controls, it will be tough for Canon to distinguish these cameras to the consumers. (Unless all three cameras above have totally different Lens and Sensors).

[speaklightly]

Canon would be doing an upgrade of the S-70, G-6 and the Pro-1 for only one reason and that would most probably be to compete with Nikons 8mp fixed lens digital cameras.

However, please don't be trapped in the mp web. 8 Megapixels is not the only reason to go to a consumer dSLR. For me at least, here are a few of the so called other benefits.

*very rapid dSLR boot-up
*much higher max ISO settings
*the interchangeable lenses
*much higher quality digital photos
*absolute control of color and white balance

And I am not just whistling in the dark with my evaluation, because I own and use:

Nikon 8700
Canon EOS 20D
Canon G-6
Canon Digital Rebel XT
Nikon D-70

Sarah Joyce

[MrForgetable]

I say maybe the prosumer camera's will slow down in the MP race and start focusing on other aspects of the camera.

[JTL]

I say maybe the prosumer camera's will slow down in the MP race and start focusing on other aspects of the camera.We are very rapidly approaching the point where there are really very few aspects left, e.g. the Canon A series already has manual controls and interchangeable lenses. You've got to think that the A95 replacement will have the DIGIC II processor and at least 7MP. At that point, it will compete very nicely with today's dSLRs. So, what's left? I firmly believe it will come to only two things in the end that significantly differentiate dSLRs...superior optics (including lens choice) and sensor size/sensor technology (although, I fully expect to see CMOS technology in point-and-shoot cameras). And, of course, there will always be a professional and serious enthusiast market for dSLRs. But, why do consumers need them any more then consumers needed film-based SLRs? You don’t need a 1Ds Mark II (or a Rebel XT for that matter) to take a snapshot. But, some consumers need a little control and a lens or two to make them feel like they’ve made a good investment. I think it’s all working out according to plan.

[gary_hendricks]

I totally agree with speakinglightly.

Megapixels should never be the only consideration when buying a camera. Look for things like manual controls, high ISO, flash shoes, and interchangable lenses.

[ProblemSolver]

I totally agree with speakinglightly.

Megapixels should never be the only consideration when buying a camera. Look for things like manual controls, high ISO, flash shoes, and interchangable lenses.

In fact, the A95 has space for a hot shoe but I don't know why Canon didn't put any. There are so many improvements that can be done but I don't know why Canon doesn't want to. I think Canon is just in for the MP race.

The Ixus 700 could have at least manual focus. The Pro 1 could've had IS. A 4x optical zoom lens can put into the S70.

[jbcm]

I feel that there is more to the sensors than many are led to believe. I think that the new and inproved sensors will be the next race. there is more than enough MP.

Jason

[pairojvej]

I own G6. I am looking for the new G-series this year.

Additionally, I am waiting for the full review of Canon Digital Rebel XT.

My G6 photo collections:
http://pairojvej.fotopic.net

[stema]

I can't understand this: for my canon psa70 1/2,7" ccd was enough, low noise, very sharp images and just small fringing. this 1/2,7" is the diameter of the CCD, so theoretically 1/1,8" should contain same or maybe a bit larger photodiodes and the same amount of space between them. But still fringing is much-much worse (I think it should be the same pixel wide), and noise is noticably higher too. Why is that? 2/3" 8mpx ccds: pro1, 8700, 8800, f828: both use the same sony sensor afaik. Noise is high, fringing too, and images aren't sharp enough. Why? I think 5-7 mpx would be more then enough if fringing and noise would be at a low level as in my a70, and sharper images would be nice too (improving the incamera debayerizing). Mpeg4 video would be nice in all p&s cameras because we are shooting on a memory card not on a g*d d@mn hdd. And optical image stabilizer, even in the ultra-compact cameras (panasonic could do it, see the fx7, it has a low battery life, imagequality is below average, but lot of ppl buying it because of the Mega OIS). I think the Casio Exilim Zoom Z750 is the closest to my heart (60sec shutter speed, manual aperture, 7mpx, very compact, large screen (but still with an optical viewfinder)). I didn't see any images, but if it's pictures going to be like the ones ixus700/sd500 takes, and they will make an optically stabilized model, with a stronger flash (this one is a joke) I would surely buy one, and it would be the best seller for sure.

[ProblemSolver]

I can't understand this: for my canon psa70 1/2,7" ccd was enough, low noise, very sharp images and just small fringing. this 1/2,7" is the diameter of the CCD, so theoretically 1/1,8" should contain same or maybe a bit larger photodiodes and the same amount of space between them. But still fringing is much-much worse (I think it should be the same pixel wide), and noise is noticably higher too. Why is that? 2/3" 8mpx ccds: pro1, 8700, 8800, f828: both use the same sony sensor afaik. Noise is high, fringing too, and images aren't sharp enough. Why? I think 5-7 mpx would be more then enough if fringing and noise would be at a low level as in my a70, and sharper images would be nice too (improving the incamera debayerizing). Mpeg4 video would be nice in all p&s cameras because we are shooting on a memory card not on a g*d d@mn hdd. And optical image stabilizer, even in the ultra-compact cameras (panasonic could do it, see the fx7, it has a low battery life, imagequality is below average, but lot of ppl buying it because of the Mega OIS). I think the Casio Exilim Zoom Z750 is the closest to my heart (60sec shutter speed, manual aperture, 7mpx, very compact, large screen (but still with an optical viewfinder)). I didn't see any images, but if it's pictures going to be like the ones ixus700/sd500 takes, and they will make an optically stabilized model, with a stronger flash (this one is a joke) I would surely buy one, and it would be the best seller for sure.

The IS on Panasonic cameras actually drain the battery of its juice. And of course image quality is not that good - Panasonic should stick with TVs and cordless phones! The IS is really a joke. Panasonic keeps boasting about the OIS on its camera lines.

I don't know why, but my Ixus 500 could and my Ixus 700 can take 100% image stabilized shots (even if I'm jumping and running around like crazy before the selftimer activates the shutter) when I on the flash. I don't know whether it's just my cameras or it affects all other Canon cameras but the "hidden IS" is just great!

[stema]

maybe the 1/60 is enough for that, or the flash's light appears for such a short time, that it can freeze moving things. Don't talk about hidden IS, because there is no such think as far as we know (unfortunately). But in churches and museums I can't use flash, so I would really like to see IS in the next ixus and in the next exilim zoom. Mode2 IS works really well in fx7, only mode1 drains battery because it's continous, but it's useless though.

Look at the bottom if this (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonicfx7/page5.asp) page, it's not a joke, it's a great feature, shooting in lowlight situations like i said before, where flash can't reach the subject, it helps really much! And often flash spoils the scene, so it could help in those situations too, not to mention longer flash shot could virtually boost the power of the flash at eg. 1/20

[Cary1]

You've got to think that the A95 replacement will have the DIGIC II processor and at least 7MP. At that point, it will compete very nicely with today's dSLRs. So, what's left? I firmly believe it will come to only two things in the end that significantly differentiate dSLRs...superior optics (including lens choice) and sensor size/sensor technology (although, I fully expect to see CMOS technology in point-and-shoot cameras). And, of course, there will always be a professional and serious enthusiast market for dSLRs. But, why do consumers need them any more then consumers needed film-based SLRs? You don’t need a 1Ds Mark II (or a Rebel XT for that matter) to take a snapshot. But, some consumers need a little control and a lens or two to make them feel like they’ve made a good investment. I think it’s all working out according to plan.

Having just taken the plunge into a DSLR, I find your statements concerning P&S camera's approaching DSLR quality to be laughable. I have been using an A70 and was looking at the A95, SD500, G6, and Panasonic FZ20. My gripe with the A70 was not image quality, but speed. My wife and I have missed countless shots of our son waiting for focusing, shutter lag, and flash recharges. While the above listed camera's were faster, none were even in the same universe as a DSLR.

We bought a Rebel D300, the slowest and least expensive of the DSLR's now that the 350 has come out. Focusing indoors is .25 second. Shutter lag doesn't exists. Short to shot time WITH THE FLASH is less than one second. I can zoom while shooting multiple frames also, something that no Prosumer or P&S can do. This is without even getting into the far better low light shooting because of higher iso speeds.

If any manufacture offered a G6 sized camera or smaller that offered the speed of a DSLR, I would have bought it in a second. The one thing I don't like about the DSLR is the size, but the tradeoff is well worth it. My wife spent 5 minutes with the DSLR before deciding that she was done with point and shoots.

[stema]

Why didn't you buy a casio p600, it's focusing speed is rapid, and it's much more compact, I'm wishing for a dslr kind of pictures too, but budget and pocket size doesn't allow that. I want a cam that I can carry around anywhere in my pocket. Brighter lens would be nice, and lower noise at higher ISO speeds, but an IS could do the trick for me :)