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d48
03-03-2005, 05:53 PM
I'm considering the Casio Exilim Z750 that comes out in April. It sounds like the camera I've been searching for. Do the Exilims take great pictures? Are they reliable?

Background on me:

My Canon S100 died recently after 4 years of great photos. I want to learn how to use manual controls, but I need a camera that will take great photos on the automatic settings.

I've been reading professional and user reviews and I'm driving myself crazy with all the analysis. But I anticipate using my new camera 3-4 years, so I want to be happy with it. The Canon A95 is probably my front-runner, but after holding cameras in the store I realize I really want a big LCD (Canon A95 is 1.8"). The new Casio Z50 sounds like the camera that will meet my requirements best (manual controls and a huge LCD). I played with the Z55 in the store and fell in love with the LCD and best shot modes.

Any advice for me? Thanks for your time.

rlallen
03-13-2005, 11:56 AM
I am also waiting for the introduction in April and the review on the Z750. One feature the previous Casio models lacked was the Focus Assist Light, and that made them less desirable to me. The reports showed poor performance in low light situations. The Z750 (per the Casio page) has the Auto Focus Assist Light and it also has an optical viewfinder which should improve it's low light performance. It sounds like a good (not perfect) camera! :) Sure is compact...

dkhandabi
03-20-2005, 09:55 AM
Do the casio exilim z55 have the focused assist light. How would you guys compare the z55 to the canon sd300

richjames
03-28-2005, 03:33 PM
I currently have an olypus stylus 300 which is too slow. I am looking to up grade. I am debating between casio z750 vs. nikon coolpix s1 anyone heard good/bad about either

d48
03-28-2005, 08:02 PM
I started this thread, so I thought I'd tell you what I ended up doing.

I didn't wait for the Casio. I ended up ruling it out based on a lot of user comments I read on another site about current Casio cameras. (I don't know if I can say which site.) Even the person that runs that site, said cameras such as the Casio Z55 are a good camera, but you shouldn't expect it to take the same quality of photos as some other cameras such as Canons. Many owners said if they knew that, they wouldn't have bought theirs. (The Z55 was in a top 10 list with some other cameras so they assumed every camera on the list was a decent pick.)

I got down to deciding between the Canon A95 and S70, when I happened upon the new Sony P200. Every user comment raved about it. And the reviews from the Sony P150 were very good. The P200 improved upon its shortcomings. I decided to buy the P200 and forego the manual controls, although it does have some. I'm thrilled with it! The pictures are sharp, exposed great, bright colors are vibrant, and skin tones are very nice. Also, the red-eye reduction really works! It also takes fantastic pictures in low lit rooms and even in the dark with the flash.

Good luck with your decision.

wowlfie
03-30-2005, 07:32 AM
If anyone is thinking of buying a new Casio Exilim EX-Z750 please visit the Casio Europe website for much more exciting details about this camera at this link:

http://www.casio-europe.com/euro/dc/exilim/exz750/

In addition, sample pictures have been posted at this casio world link:

http://world.casio.com/exilim/en/ex_z750/gallery.html

Also I found out by speaking to technical support at 1-800-435-7732 that unlike other compact and ultra compact cameras, the EX-Z750 does something no other camera in this class does: It has a super quiet optical zoom motor and so not only can you use digital zoom during movie recording you can also use optical zoom (and also during playback). That means you can zoom into your movie scenes at 24X combined optical plus digital zoom!!! Only the special super zoom cameras from Panasonic, Minolta, Canon and Sony can do this and they are much much bigger cameras (and more pricey).

Although it's true that you might compromise some picture quality by purchasing the Casio versus Sony or Canon's ultra compacts do note that the Casio P700 won a DIMA award for best in it's class and the older Casio EXZ55 as detailed on Steve's Digicam reviews offers picture quality on a par with any other 5 megapixel camera including color quality. Note too that few users can discern much if any differences in print quality below 8" x 10" (which few have 13"x19" printers) when comparing 7 and 8 megapixel cameras because the printers themselves are limited to approximately a 300 dpi print quality and can't resolve the greater resolution afforded the current generation of digital cameras. Only when you get to 17" x 21" and larger is there much discernible differences. Yes, colors and saturation are different but easily changed either via print controls or camera controls or by PC software. So don't put too much emphasis on print quality. Instead put the emphasis on features & specifications because most of these new generation cameras are so close that only on PC's with high resolution LCD's are there really any discernible differences (personally I believe the Nikon 8800 and Minolta A200 have just about the best picture quality in Non-SLR cameras). But the Casio's are not far behind (if any) now with new generation digital processors. Comparing apples to oranges is a problem around the world so don't compare older generation Casio cameras with the new ones!

So comparing features between the Casio EX-Z750 and the new Canon SD500 which got very good reviews (on this website: http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/canon/powershot_sd500-review/index.shtml) here is a summary of Casio EX-Z750 advantages over the Canon SD500:

Optical AND digital zoom during movie recording
Base mount for transferring pics and charging.
2.5" LCD screen versus 2.0"
30 scene modes versus 10
.88" thin versus 1.04"
175 grams weight with batteries versus 200 grams
Full Manual focus versus none
6 movie modes versus none (including silent)
4 Art Best Shots versus Color swap
Auto Macro versus manual
More versatile histogram (on screen during framing)
8x digital zoom versus 4x
Full voice recorder (w/voice annotation)
Battery CIPA 325 shots versus 160 shots (and cheaper)
Motion (single and collage) Prints from movies versus none
HTML in-camera album/website creator
Burst mode 2fps equal to Canon's 2fps continuous
Included album software
Included Movie editing software
Ex button for quick access to many manual controls
Alarm
Free focus option (anywhere on screne)
Past movie function
Dual capture continuous shutter (outputs framed and zoomed)
Faster startup (slightly)
Icon help (great for beginners or new users)
On-screen gridlines
ID photo function
Triple timer (3 shots taken back-to-back self timer)
Customized welcome screen (take that Microsoft!)
Favorites folder
Button customizer


That said, the Canon SD500 has these advantages:

2fps continuous versus 1.1 fps continuous
1/2000 shutter verus 1/1600 shutter
60fps movie mode (at 320 size)
stronger flash to 15' versus about 9'
zoom movie scrolling
stitch assist mode
10 shot timer verus triple timer
closer macro (5 cm versus 10 cm)
more user friendly

Considering that the Casio burst mode is equivalent to the Canon's continuous it's doubtful many users would consider that to be much of an advantage which few people take more than 5-6 pictures of a scene anyway.

I do love Canon's (& Sony's) photo quality. But after comparing picture quality on the EXZ55 versus the other equivalent 5 megapixel Canon & Sony cameras (not 7 megapixel) I can only see minor differences even on my huge HP L2335 23" LCD screen and almost no discernible differences in print quality of the EXZ55 on 8"x10" prints using my Canon IP4000 printer versus almost any Canon prints (even 8 megapixel prints from SLR's). All comparative prints were done using Steve's digicam sample pictures.

So which would I buy? Well thats a tough question considerng the new Sony W7 and Nikon 7900 will be out soon too. But all things considered-features, size, battery life, movie zoom I think Casio is the current hands down winner at this time. It's an incredible set of features in such a tiny package. And the 24X movie zoom will be great when I go to hawaii for one of my kids wedding!!

richwolfny
03-30-2005, 03:18 PM
Anyone know if you can connect the Z750 directly to your tv with a cable to view slideshows as you can with most cameras? From the link below, it looks as if you can only connect to a tv from the docking station. It would be great if you could use both the camera and the docking station this way so I could just leave the docking station plugged into my tv all the time. This might be a dealbreaker for me, since I wouldn't want to carry the docking station around to parties and family gatherings for slideshows. Those cables are enough of a pain to carry. Thanks! -Rich

The following is from http://www.exilim.de/euro/exilimzoom/exz750/flexible/

AV Socket
TV show instead of slide show: Invite your friends and relatives to enjoy the best movies and photos in full format. Use the docking station AV socket to connect your EXILIM Zoom EX-Z750 to a TV set.

wowlfie
04-01-2005, 08:17 PM
To dock or not to dock. That IS the question.

And no, you can't hook the Casio directly to a TV without the docking station. That can be irritating sometimes. So is that a deal breaker? Depends I guess on your pocketbook and how you use the camera.

If your using it mostly to take pics and then entertain your friends at THEIR place then yeah it might be a good idea to avoid the Casio.

If like most people you use it to take photos that you process on your PC for albums, email, web pages, prints, etc. and only occasionally for showing off to your friends and family at their place then consider this:

1) The Dock is the charger too. So by bringing it you don't have to worry about batteries going bye bye at the worst of times.

2) The Dock is more stable. Cameras are expensive. In more than one circumstance, as cameras have gotten thinner and thinner, I have had the cable tension exceed the cameras ability to "stay upright" and the camera fell over (on a carpeted floor fortunately). So nowadays I lay the camera flat but darn it's a lot harder to see the camera that way (angled in the Dock is better). The angled dock is much nicer and can be used itself to show the pics with everyone having a better view (well, relatively).

3) You can purchase additional Docks and hook up one to a printer, another to your PC, a third to a Big TV, and keep a 4th one around for mobility. It is SOOO nice being able to just drop the camera in the Dock instead of fighting with cables all the time and risk breaking the all-to fragile covers they put on them to hide the USB/Video outputs. It also means less mess as you can hook up to the BACK of the TV, to the BACK of the PC, etc and hide the cables from sight (mostly). Man, it just messes things up having a half dozen USB cables all over the damn place (and Video ones too!).

4) Your pictures are not stored in the camera. They exist in the flash memory or other medium used to capture them. So you CAN just remove the memory card and buy another really really cheap older pic bridge/EXIF camera which uses the same memory type (and has a slide show/movie feature) and TAKE that to the party instead your pricey new ultra compact camera (assuming the player uses the same memory). Of course, that's a somewhat pricey alternative as is also buying more Docks! Buy hey, if someone steals or breaks THAT camera at the party then who cares!! It's possible to to find really cheap older cameras that do slides/video for less than $100 (here's an example: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=30-185-501&depa=7 which plays 640 video and shows slides and only cost $87).

5) If your friends have the same (or compatible) camera, then remove the memory and use THEIR camera! Hey, that's what friends are for!

6) Oh that's enough for me today. Food for thought I guess.

rlallen
04-02-2005, 04:29 AM
My impression was that the Z750 was not available until later this month.
Butterfly Photo has the camera listed as available, following is the info as copied from their site:

Casio EXILIM EX-Z750

Once you've got the new EXILIM Zoom EX-Z750 in your hands, you won't want to part with it: 7.2 megapixels, 3x optical zoom and a large 2.5-inch TFT colour display as well as an optical viewfinder.

Our Price: $443.00
Availability: Yes
Get a Shipping Quote!

Is this a "grey market" camera or the real thing? I ask here before I ask there to insure I get a credible answer... :)

dgerb
04-06-2005, 05:05 PM
I purchased a new Casio Z750 on the internet Monday and got it this morning. Haven't read the instructions yet, but the controls are fairly intuitive. Great shots right out of the box. The battery had a slight charge on it. The movie mode quality is very good. I'm very impressed with the quality and functions of the camera. I'm wondering how much better the shots will be with the high speed SD ship. I should have a couple of Sandisk Ultra II 1 GB's tomorrow. You can not do optical zoom during movie mode, but the digital zoom is not that bad.

The rapid shutter mode works great too. The only two functions I don't see advertised and are not in the camera: the alarm clock mode and selection of sounds during various button activations.....maybe a firmware upgrade latter.

All in all very impressed :)

carguy
04-07-2005, 07:36 PM
It would be great if you could put some sample pictures online. I'm concerned about lens quality issues and would like to see some pictures before buying a camera. If you can post samples, it would be especially helpful if you could post photos with detail in the corners and taken at F2.8. I'm also considering the Panasonic Lumix FX7 (or it's replacement rumored to debut in June).
Thanks.

rlallen
04-08-2005, 05:51 PM
Alas... those of us who use our favorite and dependable computer, the Macintosh, it is not supported for the Exilim Z750 movie playback... :mad:

trikster2
04-09-2005, 01:57 AM
Alas... those of us who use our favorite and dependable computer, the Macintosh, it is not supported for the Exilim Z750 movie playback... :mad:


The oreilly review has some mac tips for getting the video into OSX

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/digitalmedia/2005/03/09/casio_p505.html

perseus
04-11-2005, 11:59 PM
Seems to be sure now: The optical zoom cannot be used during movie recording mode :(
See: Casio FAQs (http://faq.casio.com/faq/exilim/faq_type_b.php?PRODUCT=EXILIM%20EX-Z750&CATEGORY=Movie)

Pesho
04-26-2005, 02:19 PM
Guys, I've got yesterday my Z750. Overall - it's VERY, VERY good camera. I decided to change my Canon S400, because I wanted DV camcorder capability and I GOT IT!
I can post photos afterwards, but initial impression is that this is an outstanding camera!
Meanwhile -I have a question - does somebody knows who is the lens manufacturer for Z750?
Thanks!

Balrog
04-26-2005, 03:07 PM
if i'm not mistaken, Pentax does the lenses for Casio cameras...

trikster2
04-28-2005, 11:08 AM
It looks like this camera is giving the SD500 a run for it's money. Similar photo quality (same sony sensor?), and way more manual controlls.

I wish casio would get off their corporate but and give a sample to Jeff for review.

vanDivX
04-29-2005, 12:27 AM
I have canon elph S300 (the 2.1 MPixel dinosaur but still nice dinosaur I must say) and I was waiting till cannon comes to senses and makes sensible on camera controls again on some new model (I didn't like that zoom dial thingie on models after S300)
I got my wish with SD500 plus its features seemed something and oh ah it had so many megapixels, worth every cent it seemed to me when I saw it first :)

BUT before I got to vote for it with my valet, I saw casio z750 and it had dock plus tons of good features that sd500 lacks and cannon likely still will come with that attrocious software to get pics on computer, casio can't do worse than that and likely will do much better in that department I am sure. I mean it can't get worse.

I find it really weird that you pple here on forum don't even mention software that comes with camera, neither does any major reviewer make as much as booo on that score, really weird as I consider offloading picks to computer quite important thing. If software amounts to nothing much, I suppose you can use some third party but camera doesn't always work well with other programs and it costs you extra money and all that.

Last canon software ZoomBrowser EX edition for winXP was a disaster (not that it was brilliant in old version for win98 either but for XP it was just bletch retch kind of thing), not in the sense of the program breaking down (well, if your battery gave up during downloading or something and the program froze, you ended up with corrupted database most times...) but it was horribly designed, about like scratching behind left ear with your right hand threaded first between your legs. And it allowed(s) only fairly limited (read 'too short description') folder naming DOH (are we still something like in dos or what??) And I could always do without pluging in cables and calling up twin driver program choice and take out battery and put in dummy whenever I wanted to power camera from AC >>DOH and again DOH canon<<, go burry yourself, not even the pretty body on sd500 will help you this time (I believe the sd500 sitll has the same system - bletch), I am just about decided to chuck the elph line and go with casio z750

I hope the dock will enable me to shoot pic, turn around to table where my computer sits, drop camera into always connected dock and see pick downloaded on comp fast and on its way like to my friend via skype file sending... hope it is something uncomplicated as that.

vanDivX

trikster2
04-29-2005, 10:07 AM
I have canon elph S300 (the 2.1 MPixel dinosaur but still nice dinosaur I must say) and I was waiting till cannon comes to senses and makes sensible on camera controls again on some new model (I didn't like that zoom dial thingie on models after S300)
I got my wish with SD500 plus its features seemed something and oh ah it had so many megapixels, worth every cent it seemed to me when I saw it first :)

BUT before I got to vote for it with my valet, I saw casio z750 and it had dock plus tons of good features that sd500 lacks and cannon likely still will come with that attrocious software to get pics on computer, casio can't do worse than that and likely will do much better in that department I am sure. I mean it can't get worse.

I find it really weird that you pple here on forum don't even mention software that comes with camera, neither does any major reviewer make as much as booo on that score, really weird as I consider offloading picks to computer quite important thing. If software amounts to nothing much, I suppose you can use some third party but camera doesn't always work well with other programs and it costs you extra money and all that.

Last canon software ZoomBrowser EX edition for winXP was a disaster (not that it was brilliant in old version for win98 either but for XP it was just bletch retch kind of thing), not in the sense of the program breaking down (well, if your battery gave up during downloading or something and the program froze, you ended up with corrupted database most times...) but it was horribly designed, about like scratching behind left ear with your right hand threaded first between your legs. And it allowed(s) only fairly limited (read 'too short description') folder naming DOH (are we still something like in dos or what??) And I could always do without pluging in cables and calling up twin driver program choice and take out battery and put in dummy whenever I wanted to power camera from AC >>DOH and again DOH canon<<, go burry yourself, not even the pretty body on sd500 will help you this time (I believe the sd500 sitll has the same system - bletch), I am just about decided to chuck the elph line and go with casio z750

I hope the dock will enable me to shoot pic, turn around to table where my computer sits, drop camera into always connected dock and see pick downloaded on comp fast and on its way like to my friend via skype file sending... hope it is something uncomplicated as that.

vanDivX

I just assumed most people don't use the software that comes with the camera, so I normally ignore that part of the review.

My desktop has a 6-in-1 card reader, and my laptop has a CF reader. Both are very fast and easy to use. After the frustration trying to load pictures off my first Kodak via the serial port many years ago, 4 cameras later and I have not connected a camera directly to my computer. If you need to edit your pictures (I take them right the first time*) Photoshop Elements 3.0 or even the free picasa (www.picasa.com) can do better than most free stuff that comes with camera.

If you have not tried it, give picasa a try. It's from the makers of google, free and does most basic tasks you might need (cropping, resizing for email, making colages, movies out of pictures, viewing/editing RAW files).

With memory card readers dropping as low as $10 I've often wondered why people still prefer to connect cameras to computers.

*"I take them right the first time was an incredibly funny joke. I take the right the first time because I take 100s of pictures and one or two come out almost decent.

alpha788
04-30-2005, 02:35 PM
finally took the plunge and bought the Casio EX-Z750 to replace my Nikon 5200 Coolpix altho' I am still keeping my Canon G5 and Nilkon D70. The Z750 is an absolutely FAB camera!! Compact, FAST! FAST! and takes great images. Initially I was hesitant to buy it due to the Pentax lens but the features and high MP won out and I don't regret the purchase for a second! I take it everywhere - take a look at my first outing with it at : http://alpha788.myphotoalbum.com

Let me have your comments - good and bad!

Cheers! :)

Balrog
05-02-2005, 02:56 AM
looks great to me .. :)

Casio
05-02-2005, 09:24 AM
I had an old Canon Powershot A40, which has no docking station. I recently baught the Casio EX-S100. What a releaf not to fumble around with a tiny USB connector anymore, and what a releaf not to pull out the batteries for recharge all the time. Yes - you have to bring the docking station with you on holidays - but when you also bring along the laptop, then whats the fuss about bringing a docking station along with the size of a package of cigarettes ? For a Canon camera you have to bring along a battery charger, so whats the difference ? By the way - the docking station for the EX-S100 works without power, but you cant charge ofcause. ( Lets see if the same is the case for the Z750 which I just ordered ). Bottom line, if your are in for the docking station Canon is not your choice.

In the previous posts some write that photo quality on Casio is not as good as other cameras. I think this is a little exacturated. If there is a difference it is only notisable when compared side by side. Picture quality on my EX-S100 is good, and I realy cant see any difference unless examined at high zoom level side by side - despite what some reviews claimed. Bottom line is, that picture quality is so close on most ultra compact cameras, that you realy cant see the difference unless compared closely side by side.

Canon SDxxx or Casio Z750, well specs are propably a close race, but docking station, and the MPEG4 video mode, and not to forget the auto macro feature tips the balance to the favor of Casio Z750 in my opinion ( thats why I just ordered it ). :D

If you dont use video mode, or dont need high res video mode, the Casio EX-S100 is a fantastic camera, very very slim and build like a tank, and a better choice than the Z750 - in my humble opinion. I realy have a problem now - should I bring the S100 with me or the Z750. If the EX-S100 just had MPEG4 video I would stay with the Ex-S100 at any time, despite it "only" have 3.2M pixels. I will keep you posted when I have made some comparisons with the EX-S100.

After buying the Casio EX-S100 Im a die hard Casio fan :)

Casio
05-02-2005, 10:06 AM
I started this thread, so I thought I'd tell you what I ended up doing.

I didn't wait for the Casio. I ended up ruling it out based on a lot of user comments I read on another site about current Casio cameras. (I don't know if I can say which site.) Even the person that runs that site, said cameras such as the Casio Z55 are a good camera, but you shouldn't expect it to take the same quality of photos as some other cameras such as Canons. Many owners said if they knew that, they wouldn't have bought theirs. (The Z55 was in a top 10 list with some other cameras so they assumed every camera on the list was a decent pick.)

I got down to deciding between the Canon A95 and S70, when I happened upon the new Sony P200. Every user comment raved about it. And the reviews from the Sony P150 were very good. The P200 improved upon its shortcomings. I decided to buy the P200 and forego the manual controls, although it does have some. I'm thrilled with it! The pictures are sharp, exposed great, bright colors are vibrant, and skin tones are very nice. Also, the red-eye reduction really works! It also takes fantastic pictures in low lit rooms and even in the dark with the flash.

Good luck with your decision.

------- Even the person that runs that site, said cameras such as the Casio Z55 are a good camera, but you shouldn't expect it to take the same quality of photos as some other cameras such as Canons. ------------------

Hmmm - who do you think support thoose sites, and why are they so keen on makeing good reviews on Canon, but hardly mention small manufatureres like Casio ?

Look at any forum site, Canon gets 50 - 100 times more posts than Casio, some one is doing a darn good marketing job out there.

Dark Cobra
05-06-2005, 03:14 PM
Points all well taken. I remember back in the 60's and 70's when the venerable Nikon was the rage. My Nikon FM and FA SLR's served me well. Suddenly in the mid-80's Canon surged forward with their curvacious and excellent EOS line and "they" became the rage. I've had two EOS cameras and loved them also.

It's difficult to even find camera shops that even carry Casio. I think Casio could do a better job themselves of marketing and pushing their cameras. Apparently, they are content with the niche market they hold. Actually, the lion's share of their product is in the diminuitive little ultra compacts, although they do have a few larger and excellent cameras like the P600. However, until they venture into a full product line like Nikon and Canon with SLR's, lenses and gobs of accessories, not to mention decades of loyal followers and awards, they will pretty much be a limited market player.

However, I love my Casio Z750. It's the perfect little pocket camera for those moments when you just don't want a more capable camera (and there are many such moments). Keep 'em coming Casio!

vanDivX
05-08-2005, 10:53 PM
I just assumed most people don't use the software that comes with the camera, so I normally ignore that part of the review.

My desktop has a 6-in-1 card reader, and my laptop has a CF reader. Both are very fast and easy to use. After the frustration trying to load pictures off my first Kodak via the serial port many years ago, 4 cameras later and I have not connected a camera directly to my computer. If you need to edit your pictures (I take them right the first time*) Photoshop Elements 3.0 or even the free picasa (www.picasa.com) can do better than most free stuff that comes with camera.

If you have not tried it, give picasa a try. It's from the makers of google, free and does most basic tasks you might need (cropping, resizing for email, making colages, movies out of pictures, viewing/editing RAW files).

With memory card readers dropping as low as $10 I've often wondered why people still prefer to connect cameras to computers.

*"I take them right the first time was an incredibly funny joke. I take the right the first time because I take 100s of pictures and one or two come out almost decent. well, I confess I don't yet have any of those card readers even though I am swimming in various gadgets, just didn't come to me that I might need one.

Don't know exactly how they work but aren't they just like one of those USB keys that show your card up on desktop like another HD and you can just copy or pull them off there... but without software, you can't rename them and sort into folders which is the only thing I use the software for.

Typically I use the camera for several weeks taking pictures here and there, I take it just about everywhere including on job. Then one day I might need to send some pics off or something, I connect the camera to PC and I download pics off it in batches, one theme or subject at a time, the software bad as it is allows me to specify prefix name for pics, I choose '2005 May 20 ####' for example for one particular set of shots taken on that day and I specify their own folder to go into with some fitting description, the software then makes that folder automatically and renames the shots as it downloads them. That's essentially all I ever do at this initial stage and I only rotate and fix or crop pics later on as I find use for them, most I don't of course.

I would hate to first pull them into PC and then sort them with some other software and what not, also if I don't sort them right away as they go to PC, I know I will never get to do it. It has to be done right away and the sotware is just the thing for it.

The software can do the job, I just wish it wasn't so clumsy, if I had the guy who let that canon software out of door, I would kick him hard where it hurts most, that's how bad it is. But I need to use some software to sort the pics, after years you have thousands of them and if you just plunk them down on HD, they are useless since you can't find in them what you looking for after a year or more. I happen to take lots of pictures for documentation purposes on job and sometimes I have to look them up again even after several years. Digital cameras are ideal for taking tons of shots as documentation, pic is worth hundred words as they say and its doubly true here, doesn't cost you much anything to take them with these little cameras.

I suppose I should have before now looked to some third party software solution, I think I looked once but my camera couldn't connect to it or something and I forgot about it.

vanDivX

trikster2
05-09-2005, 10:12 AM
Don't know exactly how they work but aren't they just like one of those USB keys that show your card up on desktop like another HD and you can just copy or pull them off there... but without software, you can't rename them and sort into folders which is the only thing I use the software for.

I suppose I should have before now looked to some third party software solution, I think I looked once but my camera couldn't connect to it or something and I forgot about it.

vanDivX

Hi again vanDivX

You are correct it just shows up as another hard drive.

As to the naming, that is now taken care of by windows XP automagicaly (at least on mine w. service pack 2). Or you can use the picasa (free) which does an ok job of organizing things the way I want (http://www.picasa.com owned by google so it's got to be good!).

Basically I stick a memory card into the reader, and a window pops up, and says "hey what do you want to do" and I decide if I want to use the built in windows XP transfer wizard, picasa or whatnot.

If you have not tried it, give picasa a whirl. So far it does 90% of what I need, including organizging my photos, autorotating images based on my canon's orientation sensor and viewing RAW files and even videos.

kuyars
05-12-2005, 02:23 AM
finally took the plunge and bought the Casio EX-Z750 to replace my Nikon 5200 Coolpix altho' I am still keeping my Canon G5 and Nilkon D70. The Z750 is an absolutely FAB camera!! Compact, FAST! FAST! and takes great images. Initially I was hesitant to buy it due to the Pentax lens but the features and high MP won out and I don't regret the purchase for a second! I take it everywhere - take a look at my first outing with it at : http://alpha788.myphotoalbum.com

Let me have your comments - good and bad!

Cheers! :)

I'm very much a camera newbie, but looking at your shots in the original size, (no offense), but there seems to be a surprising amount of graininess to them as well as lots of overexposure. Am I alone in thinking this?

stema
05-12-2005, 05:56 AM
Could someone (maybe Jeff) take shots with (-2 for sharpness) (-1 for saturation) and (-1 for contrast) too? ISO50, full size, full quality:

-indoor flash shot with stuff as far as 5 meters (with/without flash assist)
-indoor normal (under 1 sec exposure time) shot w/o flash
-outdoor normal (with solid (meaning: not bushes but walls) shadow areas to see noise)

-indoor movie at normal lamp's light

Balrog
05-12-2005, 08:36 AM
Initially I was hesitant to buy it due to the Pentax lens

are you kidding? Pentax ranks among the world's best lens makers...

augiem
05-12-2005, 10:19 AM
I'm very much a camera newbie, but looking at your shots in the original size, (no offense), but there seems to be a surprising amount of graininess to them as well as lots of overexposure. Am I alone in thinking this?

I too am kind of dumbfounded about the praise of 90% of the pictures I've seen from the Z750. Is anyone really looking at these pictures? The #1 thing I see consistently is noise -- LOTS of noise. Bright skies and sunlight seem to blow out detail very badly as well.

I really want the Z750 to be the perfect camera, but the more photos I look at, the less enthusiastic I am about the camera. So much noise and loss of fine detail like grass and hair. (I compared DCResource's pix of the statue on the Casio Z750, Sony P150, Canon SD500, and Panasonic Lumix LX7? The grass is the most "blobby" on the Z750 followed by sony p150. SD500 is very crisp, but strangely even the 5MP Lumix is sharper than Casio or Sony by a wide margain.

I will, however, not buy a Canon because of the average battery life and expensive price tag. Sony P200 is supposedly even less sharp than the P150 (which I used for reference) and has a problem where it defaults to 1/40 sec flash shots making every other picture a blur. Casio was the one camera I was hoping would fit the bill for a fast-shooting, long-lasting camera with lots of options, but I have to say the image quality is not too hot. (The 50 iso images DC resource put up are some of the best I've seen from the Z750, but there are MANY more out there that just look terrible, noise noise noise.)

Still, I'm looking forward to DCResource's review.


Augie

stema
05-12-2005, 10:44 AM
augiem
I totally agree with you, I can't believe it's the same sensor that sd500 uses. All it's features except the flash is great!! Very good size, nice lens, mpeg4 video, manual modes, 60 sec exposure time, quite nice battery life. On paper it's a perfect camera. But images are dissapointing, maybe setting sharpness to -2 could preserve more detail (using unsharp mask as a postprocess) and a not so washed up noise that could be easily removed with a proper SW. The over and underexposures could be solved with -1 for contrast (saw an imaging resource test for z50 and it was a fine setting for it), and -1 for saturation, because I don't want colors to jump off my screen :)

kuyars
05-12-2005, 04:38 PM
I too am kind of dumbfounded about the praise of 90% of the pictures I've seen from the Z750. Is anyone really looking at these pictures? The #1 thing I see consistently is noise -- LOTS of noise. Bright skies and sunlight seem to blow out detail very badly as well.

I actually did not have any qualms with the Z750 sample pics posted by this website - they seemed ok with me. It was the pics posted by alpha788 that I found very surprising. Tons of noise and lots of overexposures, is what came to mind when viewing alpha788's photos.

Muffin Man
05-18-2005, 05:10 AM
Nice review of the camera on this site!
I think a VERY cool feature of this camera is the Past Movie, which uses the smallish built-in memory to "capture" what happened in the PAST 5 seconds BEFORE you press the movie record button.

Jeff: You should change the review's slant to actually make good of the built-in memory, rather than make a comment about how seemingly useless you think it is.

yocky
05-18-2005, 06:31 AM
OK the Z750 review has confirmed what I already thought about the sample pics I've seen, they look unnaturally colourful and lack definition compared to the SD500. I really want to buy this camera but this is concerning me. I know the colour problem can be solved but what effect if any will this have on detail. The review on this site also suggests reducing the sharpness, what will this achieve? It sounds like a reduction in definition, but something I read elsewhere makes me think the opposite is true (which would be fantastic).

trikster2
05-18-2005, 02:32 PM
I actually did not have any qualms with the Z750 sample pics posted by this website - they seemed ok with me. It was the pics posted by alpha788 that I found very surprising. Tons of noise and lots of overexposures, is what came to mind when viewing alpha788's photos.


I looked at every sample pict I could find of the Z750 before buying the camera.

To me almost every image looked comparable to the competition, the Nikon 7900, and Canon SD500. There is even a thread over on DP review with a 100 comments comparing the crop of an eyeball from a photo with the SD500 and a the Z750.

The SD500 has a slight edge in image quality, but the Z750's large screen, great manual controls (with programable controls) and wonderful MPEG-4 movie modes (past or short movie mode is essential for capturing baby's "magic moments") tipped the scales to the Z750. We've had the Z750 for about a week now and so far are very happy with the speed, functionality and all around fun in this camera.

trikster2
05-24-2005, 10:46 AM
Quick note on build quality.

The case that is bundled with the costco camera is horible (casio-1 or something).

There's an insert in the case that just feels wrong. Take it out though and the camera loves to slide out of the pouch on its own. Leave it in and struggle to take the camera in/out of the pouch.

Made the mistake of taking the insert out of the case and my wife dropped the Z750 twice yesterday into pavement (kids don't try this at home!). Bent the metal case just a little but everything else (including the big screen) is fine.

xenderoo7
05-25-2005, 12:49 AM
After looking around and comparing all the newer, ultra-compact cameras, I finally decided on Z750. Since it only has about 8.3mb worth of internal memory, an SD memory card is a must for this camera. So, there I go again, looking around and comparing different brands and speeds. And this is where it gets interesting.

There are tons of so called "high speed" memory cards out there, ranging from 20X, 40X, 60X and up to 120X. The price of these cards goes up drastically with higher speed. As far as my understanding goes, the actual speed of accessing (read/write) the memory depends on both the speed of the card and the speed of the reader. Therefore, in order to take advantage of these high speed memory cards, the camera must be able to read/write in comparable speed. Here's come the question, as for Z750, would it be able to take advantage of higher speed memory card? If so, how fast?

I have tried Casio's support site and read through all the specifications available, and there wasn't any info regarding this issue. Hopefully somebody can enlighten me with their insights. Thanks in advance.

P.S. I might try the support number they provided in Casio website. I will report back if I get any info.