Sony A700 successor to be announced today at 9AM PST

[laydros]

http://sonyalpharumors.com/

Sigma already announced some new and interesting lenses that will be available in Sony mount. Looks like Sony's announcement is today at 12pm EST, and SAR has a decent history and they seem sure the A700 successor will be announced, in addition to a mirror-less camera, and some new glass.

[Peekayoh]

Yes I added a link to the Sony announcement in this thread (http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46242&page=6).

[dr4gon]

It has begun!

http://news.sel.sony.com/en/image_library/consumer/digital_imaging/digital_cameras/dslr/high/56594

http://news.sel.sony.com/images/large/consumer/digital_imaging/digital_cameras/dslr/PMA_DSLR_onp_lg.jpg

Not a fan of the new body design. The other stuff looks pretty cool though. I like the slim body of the NEX cameras.

[laydros]

It looks ok. Glad they put the lcd on top. Looks like it has a little buddy with video too?

[Elisha]

Linky no worky!

[dr4gon]

Linky no worky!

It works :rolleyes:. The rumor site is up and down, but the images speak for themselves.

[laydros]

Um... no specs, no names, no prices?

How long after last years PMA show of prototypes did they release the 18-55 SAM and other stuff they showed off. Wasn't too long, right?

[dr4gon]

Um... no specs, no names, no prices?

How long after last years PMA show of prototypes did they release the 18-55 SAM and other stuff they showed off. Wasn't too long, right?

few months. that big honking 500/4 is just seeing the light of day. I wonder if they have a real lens this year?

[Elisha]

I really don't like the power switch positioning. When I had the D90 for a brief period, I kept turning the camera off accidentally.
the new a7x0 seems smaller. Not sure I like them shrinking the size though. That normally means a new VG as well.

[dr4gon]

So, that's it?

Very vague!

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1002/10021203sony2010.asp

Just like last year. Reminds me why I left sony...

[SONYNUT]

I would rather they did the 900 with vid....not a toy camera..oh well..

[DonSchap]

Well, personally, the Zeiss Distagon T* 24mm f2 SSM lens is a welcome addition to the line up. The 24mm has been missing for quite a while and having the extra f-stop worth of light will allow for some more flexibility, indoors. I have been putting off the purchase of the SIGMA AF 24mm f/1.8 DG EX MACRO, in anticipation of this one. It is the looming Zeiss price that may give us all some pause.

The AF 500mm f/4 G Supertelephoto ... not so much. There goes another $6000-$8000, eh? At least you can shut off the "beep."

The ISO performance will be the make/break for the new α7xx. This HD Video "wedding cam" is probably pretty close to what Jason, Elisha & Ryan were so bothered about. Anybody have ideas on the price? Mark me down for $1300.

[dr4gon]

$1300? hmmmm I'll say $1400 even though we aren't really sure what it all does lol. 7D is at $1700 and the D300s has fallen to $1500 (street).

Looks like the body will also need a new grip (for the new body and likely new battery)

[laydros]

I hope the 24 isn't too expensive, since it is f2. Nikon's 1.4 is $2200, Canon's 1.4 is under $1900, both are pretty new. Sony should come in closer to $1500 on that since it is quite a bit slower.

It is quite a useful hole to fill, and provides at least one killer wide prime, since the 35G just isn't quite gonna knock your socks off.

I wonder why the other Zeiss primes aren't available, like the Canon ZE and Nikon ZF. Unless I'm mistaken, they don't offer them in A mount. I guess they only want to release AF lenses since they do have a deal with Zeiss.

I'm not guessing price for the A7x0 until we actually have specs. FPS, what video modes, live view or not, MP, etc.

And I agree with Don, the high ISO ability is going to make or break it.

[dr4gon]

It would carry the zeiss premium and it does have SSM (something the other Zeiss primes don't have which I think is excellent). Too bad it's only F/2, but the current distagons go to 2.8 and 3.5, so f/2 is nice in that regard.

I think the video mode is 1080p at 30fps (AVCHD or whatever is supposed to be so great).

As usual, high-iso performance is all the rage (the new megapixel). But for sure it will make or break it. My guess, based on previous cameras, is it performs about average to expectations and current cameras.

[Rooz]

so this is the micro 4/3 competitor ? is it a totally new mount aswell ? ie" smaller glass ? no point having a smaller body with the same sort of glass to mount onto it cos it defeats the whole purpose. i think the new dslr body, (is it real ??) looks fabulous. a great improvement from what i can see on the ugly duckling bodies they have been churning out.

wouldnt surprise me at all if the zeiss was $2k.

[DWessel]

From the expanded picture and label on top it would appear we have HD video capacity in those models.

And how about that G lens. From what I could see of the labeling on top, it appears to be 500mm f/2.8???

[Rooz]

And how about that G lens. From what I could see of the labeling on top, it appears to be 500mm f/2.8???

lol 500/2.8 ? got a trailer to cart that around in ?
its an f4 mate.

[DonSchap]

If you look close at the top side of the lens, it reveals the aperture and the focal length. In this case: 4/500G

51904

If you do the math, 500mm / 2.8 ... the first element would have to be a monstrously huge 179mm in diameter! The weight of that kind of glass is just awful. The SIGMA AF 200-500mm f/2.8 zoom weighs 33 lbs!

Canon's EF 400 f/2.8 IS USM lens is nearly 13 lbs. and it is a mere 144mm across. :eek:

[dr4gon]

so this is the micro 4/3 competitor ? is it a totally new mount aswell ? ie" smaller glass ? no point having a smaller body with the same sort of glass to mount onto it cos it defeats the whole purpose. i think the new dslr body, (is it real ??) looks fabulous. a great improvement from what i can see on the ugly duckling bodies they have been churning out.

wouldnt surprise me at all if the zeiss was $2k.

Sonyalpharumors.com is calling it the "e-mount." I guess it's safe to say it isn't the F, EF, or M mount... :D I haven't seen anything officially that references this, but yes, it will have to be a new mount. I guess the sensor is probably a bit smaller as well.

[DonSchap]

If you look closely at the mounting collar of this camera, there does not seem to be the standard blade / 1/8th-twist lock. It must use some kind of hidden pin to secure the lens in place.

[Rooz]

I guess the sensor is probably a bit smaller as well.

now that i'd be VERY surprised at. it has to be an aps-c sensor you;d think. looking at that 18-70 kit lens ?? mounted in the pic, it looks awfully big to put on that tiny body.

[dr4gon]

now that i'd be VERY surprised at. it has to be an aps-c sensor you;d think. looking at that 18-70 kit lens ?? mounted in the pic, it looks awfully big to put on that tiny body.

Yeah, my mistake.

Looks like it is APS-C

http://www.photographybay.com/2010/02/21/sony-alpha-compact-aps-hd-camera-unveiled-at-pma-2010/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PhotographyBay+%28Photography +Bay%29

Do they need a new mount then? Perhaps not.

[Rooz]

Yeah, my mistake.

Looks like it is APS-C

http://www.photographybay.com/2010/02/21/sony-alpha-compact-aps-hd-camera-unveiled-at-pma-2010/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PhotographyBay+%28Photography +Bay%29

Do they need a new mount then? Perhaps not.

i thought the mount was slightly different given that you would assume that the new lens' will be different designs to make them smaller. (no mirror on the body). i'm pretty sure that this is the way the m4/3 system works. same sensor size but the lack of the mirror means that the m4/3 dedicated lens' are much smaller and lighter. regular 4/3 glass require an adaptor of some description to mount onto m4/3 bodies.

to me, if you dont have that smaller lens advantage then you can forget the body. its a pointless exercise.

[laydros]

It is absolutely a new mount, the EVIL camera isn't deep enough to use Alpha lenses directly. Lenses would focus way past infinity, and not close focus at all. Sony alpha rumors says there will be an adapter for A mount, and I have every reason to believe that will be true. I also expect it will fully support all A mount lenses, with one big exception... I doubt that tiny camera will have an in-camera focusing motor. So you will probably need SAM or SSM lenses for auto-focus, which would explain why they are starting to make everything with a SAM motor, they knew this camera was coming soon.

I could be wrong, they might have some method of a focusing motor (in the adapter? sony alpha rumors says it will be $200) or they may not provide compatibility with alpha lenses. But that seems doubtful since the micro 4/3 support 4/3 lenses, and the NX10 supports K mount lenses.

This may finally be the EVIL that I want. The Panasonic GF-1 is very close, but I want in-body IS, and I'd rather have an APS-C sensor. One of the nice things about getting a mirror-less camera is being able to adapt all kinds of older lenses (even rangefinder lenses in many cases), but with a 2x crop factor on micro 4/3, you can't go wide at all. 1.5x still stinks, but it would be much better. Plus I know my way around Maxxum lenses, and still have a couple in the closet. $1000 seems like a lot, but rumors are that there will be cheaper ones soon, similar to what Oly is doing with their new one.

I just hope it has the control dials on it I want.

[dr4gon]

GF-1 is nice. In-body IS for a pancake would be nice. I want something smaller. I was quite surprised how large the E-P1 is in real life.

These new Sony's aren't quite EVILs yet. They don't have the electronic viewfinder accessory (yet).

One killer thing is the hotshoe will be Sony, which means an adapter for my pocketwizards :(.

I'm thinking the LX4 is the right camera for me! I wish I had found a cheaper LX3 way back last year. (lucky rooz!)

[laydros]

GF-1 is nice. In-body IS for a pancake would be nice. I want something smaller. I was quite surprised how large the E-P1 is in real life.

These new Sony's aren't quite EVILs yet. They don't have the electronic viewfinder accessory (yet).

One killer thing is the hotshoe will be Sony, which means an adapter for my pocketwizards :(.

I'm thinking the LX4 is the right camera for me! I wish I had found a cheaper LX3 way back last year. (lucky rooz!)

Mmmm... I think the definition is with the thought that every camera has a viewfinder, it is just a question of if it is optical or electronic. In this case there isn't a viewfinder that you put your eye up to, it is a big screen. EV kinda meaning doesn't have an optical viewfinder.

Hot shoe is a good point. Hopefully it will have a sync port. I would probably have bought the Canon S90 by now if it had a pc port.

(I guess not EVERY camera has a viewfinder, box cameras didn't, along with other early or special purpose cameras)

Edit: What am I smoking! They won't put a PC port on this thing. They don't put it on any consumer cameras. Whatever, Sony hotshoe-PC ports are easy enough to find.

[dr4gon]

Haha, yeah. They'd have a hotshoe first. If it really is small, shoots hd video, has a Sony hot shoe, and can shoot decent pictures (oh and at a good price ~$500-$600), I would really consider it. I think it's a stretch though with the pricing and small size, who knows.

[DonSchap]

and the "bubbling" has begun about the new α700 replacement w/video capability. It may be right around ... the corner. I sure hope they did not lose the remote control aspect to it ... that was cool.

[SONYNUT]

The guy at national camera told me a hd dslr is coming out in a month....we'll see

[Peekayoh]

Or two months. Photokina 21/26 September 2010

[Rooz]

a hd dslr is coming ? really ? what a scoop !! lol

[Peekayoh]

Heavy Duty DSLR!
Can't wait, that's one in the eye for you CaNikons.