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D Thompson
10-22-2009, 04:37 PM
Here are a couple from today. The good colors haven't quite got here yet, plus a little on the cloudy side. One with the 5D/24-70 and one with 20D/10-22.
Not sure how these will look. Just got a new lcd and may not have it set right yet.
Look a bit bland to me, some more saturation might help, but saturation is always a personal taste.
i like the setting, but i'm going with csae on this one
not sure, perhaps a different time of day for different lighting conditions?
herc182
10-23-2009, 06:55 AM
I like the second one.
I dont think there is anything wrong with the photos, i think its just the scene is not that special...cant put my finger on it. Could be the lighting too (i.e. time of day shot)
I think the border is too overpowering though
Gintaras
10-23-2009, 07:20 AM
Denis, good images, I see lighting was very challenging, I mean in the shadows. But such places are always headache as concerns light. As concerns saturation I think these are very close to real, bumping up colors can make them look bit artificial IMHO. I like natural look in them.
I nevertheless agree on the scenery being a bit ordinary, but this is a taste matter and does not make your pics look less.
D Thompson
10-23-2009, 07:45 AM
Thanks for the comments. The lighting sucked as it was mostly cloudy all day and I'm guessing this location receives little sun on a good day. I probably should've stayed home. Anyway, here is one of them reprocessed. Any better? Still working on the new monitor calibration.
adam75south
10-23-2009, 08:27 AM
i'm in the same boat you are dennis. i need to recalibrate. plus i'm about to get a monitor. what monitor did you get?
and i like the 2nd one better.
D Thompson
10-23-2009, 09:10 AM
i'm in the same boat you are dennis. i need to recalibrate. plus i'm about to get a monitor. what monitor did you get?
and i like the 2nd one better.
I probably need to break down and buy a calibration kit, but I've had fairly good luck with the "eyeball" method using a couple of test prints. It gets me close to the prints I get back.
I run a dual monitor setup which had a 15" and 17". Tossed the 15" and moved the 17" over for PS tools & palettes. Here is what I went with - Dell ST2410 (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-1070) . There's better, but it suits my needs.
adam75south
10-23-2009, 09:49 AM
wow that's a big jump. i have a 21" and a 22" and feel like they're too small. i think 24" is pretty much perfect for editing though. problem is my 22" sucks so i use my 21" for my editing. it's a dell also, but a really low end one, way too bright and inconsistent.
FLiPMaRC
10-23-2009, 10:21 AM
:cool: Wow! The ST2410 has a pretty decent price tag also.
D Thompson
10-23-2009, 10:28 AM
and i like the 2nd one better.
Thanks. I knew the first one was a little dark, but closer to actual.
wow that's a big jump.
:D:D Yeah, I was due an upgrade. The 24" seems perfect size, at least for me.
:cool: Wow! The ST2410 has a pretty decent price tag also.
My actual including shipping was $255 after my company discount thru Dell. I'd been looking and couldn't pass it up.
Gintaras
10-23-2009, 01:29 PM
guys, why not buy Mac which has a proper screen? actually i notice difference between picture appearence on my Samsung station monitor, Book Pro and my office Eizo... while Eizo and Book Pro give identical colors and brightness my Samsung is a bit brighter but nothing dramatic. problem is i work with photos on PC station but now thinking of buying a new "27 iMac, have already some soft for Mac inclusive PS.
adam75south
10-23-2009, 01:54 PM
that new 27" iMac looks awesome. i have a really nice workstation at home that i plan to install windows 7 on tonight, but i've thought seriously about selling it and getting the iMac.
BBPhoto
10-23-2009, 04:17 PM
Dennis - You can't beat a good calibration kit. I have used Spyder products on both PC and Mac with amazing and most importantly consistent results. In the case of Dell monitors I have found that they are far better when calibrated using their native white point temperature rather than the 6500K that many entry level products default at. If this is the case with your monitor you will be better served with a product that offers some customization for this setting.
Gintaras - I work with both Mac and PC. I won't start another useless Mac vs PC debate but rest assured that no matter which seems better all monitors benefit from calibration. Presently I work on my photos using a Dell laptop, Imac and a desktop that has a low-end LCD monitor. To my eye the Dell laptop looked best pre-calibration but after calibration they all look 99.999% identical and best of all they all looked better.
michaelb
10-23-2009, 09:08 PM
Thanks for the comments. The lighting sucked as it was mostly cloudy all day and I'm guessing this location receives little sun on a good day. I probably should've stayed home. Anyway, here is one of them reprocessed. Any better? Still working on the new monitor calibration.
I love cloudy days for these types of shots personally, sunny days are usually lousy for these shots. I would push the saturation a bit and I'd like to see the second one bigger.
D Thompson
10-23-2009, 09:15 PM
Dennis - You can't beat a good calibration kit. I have used Spyder products on both PC and Mac with amazing and most importantly consistent results. In the case of Dell monitors I have found that they are far better when calibrated using their native white point temperature rather than the 6500K that many entry level products default at. If this is the case with your monitor you will be better served with a product that offers some customization for this setting.
It's on my list :). I can get pretty close to my prints. Main project at the moment is getting all my crap organized and moved over to a network storage set up with RAID1 and a couple of 1TB drives. I've backed up across 3 different drives so some of it is a mess :eek:. I use Synctoy for some, but the old compare folders and dates for a lot as well.
D Thompson
10-23-2009, 10:27 PM
I love cloudy days for these types of shots personally, sunny days are usually lousy for these shots. I would push the saturation a bit and I'd like to see the second one bigger.
Oh I'm glad it was completely in the sun, I just wish it had been partly cloudy where a little filtered light would hit the trees. I still blew out some of the water. Add ND filter to list ;).
Here you go - reprocessed the RAW and a little bigger.
TheWengler
10-24-2009, 12:11 AM
Here you go - reprocessed the RAW and a little bigger.
Looks much better
agreed =]
if you were to add your border, i would include only the black and white surrounds, and leave the gray layer out
michaelb
10-24-2009, 10:56 AM
Looks much better
Ditto; nice shot Dennis.
D Thompson
10-24-2009, 03:00 PM
Looks much better
agreed =]
if you were to add your border, i would include only the black and white surrounds, and leave the gray layer out
Ditto; nice shot Dennis.
Thank you.
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