View Full Version : Crappy camera shop websites
Anthony
08-09-2009, 02:18 PM
I was trying to check a few local business out to see what they had before I went into town. Its unbelivable the totaly crappy websites some of them have !
Try the Whats new and Products > Canon or nikon pages:
http://www.campkinsfuturevision.co.uk/
Their other shop ? is not a lot better:
http://www.campkinscameras.co.uk/Pages/canoncam.htm
I hate to say it but the state of a business website has an effect on the way I think about a company.
Another one - http://www.youngscameras.co.uk/index.htm
You go to their website and there is basicly a holding page that then points you to the Binocular barn
Out of interest I thought I would try one more K P Professional Sales Ltd
Here I was redirected to http://www.photographywebsite.co.uk/k-p-professional-sales-ltd-i601878.html
I pressume as they have an online ordering system that I must be able to find some prices and buy on line but no matter how hard I look I can not find any prices or way to order. There site is more proffesional than some of the others but still has missing images and I end up going around in circles!!!!
Anthony
08-09-2009, 02:27 PM
Check out this page:
http://www.campkinscameras.co.uk/Pages/contactus.htm
They have two telephone numbers and an email listed but:
Telephone [NOT FOR ONLINE SHOPPING QUERIES]
Do they want to sell anything?
I really couldn't care less about websites. The very best camera store website I ever saw was a single page that gave a rough idea of what was stocked, the location and opening hours.
SpecialK
08-09-2009, 10:03 PM
I was trying to check a few local business out to see what they had before I went into town. Its unbelivable the totaly crappy websites some of them have !
It actually is lot of work keeping a website current, especially if you (likely) have scaled back on employee's hours.
It actually is lot of work keeping a website current, especially if you (likely) have scaled back on employee's hours.
Not just that but most websites are a fad anyway.
They're low cost, low return advertising. Take one of the local tractor supply places where I used to live. They had a website but all their business was done on their premises or at trade shows. It's just extra advertising that gets the name around but that's all most websites are.
I know I'm treading on toes here but the vast majority of businessmen I meet say the same thing that websites might get the extra one or two clients in but walk-ins are the source of business.
Try reading any one of the e-myth books.
cdifoto
08-09-2009, 10:14 PM
Our local shop actually has a nice website. Their prices are insane on some stuff though. They want $270 over B&H price for a 50D body.
Not just that but most websites are a fad anyway.
fad ? do you even know what a fad is ? lol must be the longest running "fad" of all time. :rolleyes:
i shop online alot. if the website sucks, i wont shop there. simple as that. i'm not talking super fancy designs. but it has to be easy to navigate and professional looking. if it looks like a fly by night website, then i expect the same slap dash crap service. wont get my business thats for sure.
There are two major camera stores, and several smaller ones, the small ones have shitty websites and get almost nothing from me, only if both major stores are out of stock do i even bother to go a smaller store in person. The major ones however, have pretty decent sites that you can find most of the major items easily with prices, and i constantly look up both of their sites to see which has the cheaper price.
Had they not had websites, i would probably go to one that did. Calling costs me $ and involves the same amount of time if not longer then looking up a real site.
Rhys is still running that hate train, and its still as funny as ever.
Theres entire businesses heavily on their websites, gadgetinfinity anyone? Sure they run ebay too, but thats pretty much the same thing. Its still a website with their products.
And i usually prefer to go to their real website then their ebay store personally.
cdifoto
08-09-2009, 11:16 PM
Rhys will hate websites as long as he remains
a) incapable of making a good one that benefits his own business, and
b) cheap.
c) cheap
d) cheap
e) all of the above
cdifoto
08-09-2009, 11:51 PM
It should also be noted that Rhys has no philosophical hatred of websites. It's not that he truly thinks they're a useless fad. His hatred of websites stems from the fact that he's frustrated. Otherwise he would have neither placed 5 urls in his signature nor made so many attempts at creating a website that's appealing.
It's like a child trying to learn to ride a bicycle on his own. He tries and tries but he keeps falling down. He gets mad, annoyed, irritated. Completely understandable. Then he kicks his bike and says "I don't really wanna ride a stupid bike anyway!" and gives up completely. He sees all the kids riding and having fun and lashes out. His heart hardens and he calls them stupid and lame, especially when they try to give him pointers on how to ride.
All he had to do was ask his dad (web designer) for help. But he was too stubborn (cheap).
sounds like golf...stupid freakin game. i never really wanted to play anyway.
TheWengler
08-10-2009, 12:24 AM
sounds like golf...stupid freakin game. i never really wanted to play anyway.
Since you love golf...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qPrR49qsDc
Rhys will hate websites as long as he remains
a) incapable of making a good one that benefits his own business, and
b) cheap.
No - websites just aren't necessary for most business. Does my barber need a website? How's he going to email a haircut? Does my dentist need a website? How's she going to email a filling?
As far as my computer repair website is concerned, it's largely redundant as people needing a computer repair aren't going to be looking online because they can't - their computer needs repair.
As far as photography is concerned, nobody looks at my website so I stopped quoting it. Those that ask about a website are just timewasters in my experience. I stopped quoting it on my stationary and on my vehicle. Has it made any difference to enquiries - yes. I get more enquiries now. I get more people wanting to see my portfolio and business in general is better.
jekostas
08-10-2009, 11:10 AM
Wow did this thread turn real snarky real quick...
Websites are not a necessity, but they are nice. Being a dedicated Olympus shooter means I'm often scouring websites for information, and buying online as while the local camera stores actually carry pretty good stock, some of the more esoteric items need to be shipped in.
It can, like photography as a whole, be a giant black hole for money though, especially if you wind up with incompetent webmasters and/or hosting service.
cdifoto
08-10-2009, 12:03 PM
No - websites just aren't necessary for most business. Does my barber need a website? How's he going to email a haircut? Does my dentist need a website? How's she going to email a filling?
As far as my computer repair website is concerned, it's largely redundant as people needing a computer repair aren't going to be looking online because they can't - their computer needs repair.
As far as photography is concerned, nobody looks at my website so I stopped quoting it. Those that ask about a website are just timewasters in my experience. I stopped quoting it on my stationary and on my vehicle. Has it made any difference to enquiries - yes. I get more enquiries now. I get more people wanting to see my portfolio and business in general is better.
Necessary for carrying out the day to day operations of the business? Not really, unless of course it's e-commerce and/or the website is the business (e.g. social networking).
Expected? Absolutely. I haven't done a survey but I'm willing to wager that people in this current state of technology and internet saturation would be more surprised if a business does not have a website than if it does. People are very, very computer-centric these days and they do as much as they can with them....even if that computer is their web enabled smart phone.
I tend to look at the people who ask for my website not as time wasters but instead as savvy, considerate consumers. They'd rather check out my work on their own time rather than on mine. They'd also rather check out my work when it's convenient to them, rather than when it's convenient for both (or all) of us. They'd rather save the inconvenient part of trying to get schedules to jive for when they're pretty darn certain they want to hire me. That works GREAT for me because I usually know the quality of my work isn't at issue and the meeting is more relaxed....they want to get to know me to see if our personalities mesh and see & touch some of the products that I offer to decide whether they like those as well.
Ray Schnoor
08-10-2009, 12:09 PM
I really couldn't care less about websites. The very best camera store website I ever saw was a single page that gave a rough idea of what was stocked, the location and opening hours.
That's why I hate the B&H Photo website. If all they had was a single page with this information, I would not have spent thousands of dollars with them. $#%$&*$#%& website!!!!!!
Ray.
Ok. Let's look at hit counters, shall we...
When I look at my hit counters - for unique visitors...
Over all 4 websites (plus my blog)
825 for July of 09
577 for July of 08
579 for July of 07
352 for July of 06
751 for July of 05
Now, when I had my TV advert running for 3 months - July, August, September of 08, I had the following unique visitors for those months (I was directing people solely to my website - which I realise now was a mistake - people want to phone as soon as they see a TV advert, not faff about running for their computer to find a website).
June 08 - 577
July 08 - 577
August 08 - 706
September 08 - 559
October 08 - 539
Now - trends...
During the advert, no noticeable upward trend other than August. There's a general upward trend anyway - a lot of which seems to be web crawlers. That knocks all the stats a bit cock-eyed.
The general run seems to be between 500 - 900 views per month. There is no noticeable seasonal variation and no noticeable yearly variation although I do seem to get more hits year on year.
Given that my website was TV advertised, I'd have expected more than 1,000 hits for each of the 3 months the advert was on, given that it was on for 31 seconds, every 15 minutes for 3 months non-stop.
Questioning the accuracy of the website statistics, I put an independent counter on and it all tallied.
The only general trend is upward overall. The quantity of web crawlers is increasing.
If nobody visits a website, it's worthless. If nobody rings, having seen that website, it's worthless. Now, since nobody even visits - even when it's advertised then clearly it's pointless investing any money whatsoever in advertising website addresses or even maintaining a website. It's even more worthless spending money on something that has zero return.
Mark_48
08-10-2009, 01:30 PM
No - websites just aren't necessary for most business. Does my barber need a website? How's he going to email a haircut? Does my dentist need a website? How's she going to email a filling?
I think they call it advertising and information.
One of many found....
http://www.watertownbarber.com/
Again, one of many found...
http://www.bouressadental.com/
Need your pipes fixed?
http://www.meetzeplumbing.com/
Wow did this thread turn real snarky real quick...
It''s called "Bait & Switch" :)
tim11
08-10-2009, 05:23 PM
..... Does my barber need a website? How's he going to email a haircut? Does my dentist need a website? How's she going to email a filling? ......
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
I surfed and compared prices then I contacted a TV antenna installer through his website but I wasn't home to see how he installed it by emails... :confused::eek:;)
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If a business don't make a decent website they shouldn't bother at all. A crappy one will give bad impression. Again how much business is generated by websites depend on the type of business and the market segments you aim at. If you are a barber and only cut pensioners' hair there is no point in putting up a website. On the other hands if you are aim at youth market offering style haircuts then of course a website will gain you more customers as the customers will see before hand what styles are on offer and can choose at their own time and pace.
Nowadays, I use website from searching for a camera parts to buying a car. A business that responds first in a professional and friendly way will get my preference for business. Phone calls and site visit will only follow after I initially contact them through the website. I doubt if website is only a fad.
tim11
08-10-2009, 05:38 PM
This http://www.campkinsfuturevision.co.uk/ is a thing of the past. I think they should change the name to campkinsglimpseofthepast.co. They still advertise Canon A70... That was the one I wanted to buy to use as the learning tool. LOL.
600 people? ...
Wow man, thats horrible.
I think, i've arrived at the conclusion, that while websites still do not suck and are a very useful and powerful business tool, Websites For You, Personally, Suck and are everything you claim them to me. (Sucky, time waste, etc)
I agree entirely, at this point, you should just give up websites, and understand that while you cannot use them effectively, it does not mean that others cannot.
Websites also differentiate based on clientel, you will not get a job with a big company without a website, unless you have some sort of family relation. HR will not even look twice at a photographer if he does not have a website, forget an interview. Granted with your site... they probably won't get you an interview anyways.
But enough bashing, i'll be constructive with you for a second.
Get a real website, not necessarely hiring the first professional you see, find a good one, he'll make you a real design, it'll cost, but not that much, since its a one time thing really. Then get your best, most amazing shots, and share them, Flickr, dA, Facebook, Myspace, ModelMayhem, Wtv. Get people to look at those pictures, which in turn will link back to your website, when someone sees a really wicked photo, they'll go to the website to see more. Also, listing 6 websites will make no-one click any of them. Listing 1 is much more likely to generate a view, it shows importance and priority, someone who is trying to sell me 6 things at once will get nothing, while the guy pushing that 1 thing that is aparently so amazing, has a much higher chance.
With your current number of views, your website is completely useless, you cannot claim to have a real website at this point, much less experience with one enough to deem them useless.
Im not the biggest authority on this, execpt i run at the moment 2 websites, completely unrelated, one of which generated over 4ooo unique visitors a month, every month, for the past 4 years. I've spend 0$ on advertising and used word of mouth to get the visitors. One youtube video alone got an unacountable number of visitors for several months, i'd estimate it at about 1000 every month for about 4 months, extra. (The video alone has 10ooo views, Not bad.)
This did require some work on my bad, sitting down, generating content interesting enough to spread itself over the web. Something i have not had the time to do for my own photosite just yet, but with my previous website, i now know exactly what to do to get more and more visitors every month while spending as least amount of money as possible.
(The offtopic always happens with this topic, its predictable enough, and to be honest, im cutting the numbers you gave in half, because i think your bloating them, like any good american does when it comes to business right : D)
I can show the stats for the years...
Bear in mind different sites started at different times and one site was there that isn't now.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_U0JaxpZ58Nc/SoD4GZfFlJI/AAAAAAAAAcY/9dUWwABhAr0/s512/2004.jpg
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_U0JaxpZ58Nc/SoD4GpmeQtI/AAAAAAAAAcc/VVyAkQpt4XY/s512/2005.jpg
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_U0JaxpZ58Nc/SoD4GjJSW9I/AAAAAAAAAcg/xOk07KuWohQ/2006.jpg
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_U0JaxpZ58Nc/SoD4Gq6X-oI/AAAAAAAAAck/6sdl9e3MaC0/2007.jpg
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_U0JaxpZ58Nc/SoD4GwPCa1I/AAAAAAAAAco/tJrIqe7CfmE/s512/2008.jpg
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_U0JaxpZ58Nc/SoD4PmRn2-I/AAAAAAAAAcs/RtpV4SBczZU/s512/2009.jpg
I've tried promotions and nothing works. I just figure the internet is so much blah. I get much more mileage out of vehicle advertising and don't even bother advertising online any more.
Yep. You're doing it wrong.
If you're doing something wrong, its no wonder its not working.
I gave you some tips, what you do with them is entirely up to you. Listening to others is never easy, but if you don't have anything to lose, its slightly easier.
Other then that, im not gonna comment on this topic anymore, you believe websites are useless, good for you, i will deny you and problably mock you from time to time on this specific topic, thats about it, no more debating from my part.
rather than look at the medium of communication, website and/ or tv ad, perhaps think inwardly. your websites suck so why would you expect to get business from them ? your ads were cheap and cheesy, so again...why would you expect to get business from them ?
its the equivalent of serving up 2 week old raw fish and then when no one decides they want to eat it, you say "seafood sucks, and i've got the evidence to prove it".
Ah well, I couldn't really care less about websites anyway. If they fell off the face of the earth I wouldn't even miss them.
Edit...
Well, it's not so much that I don't care. I've tried, it didn't work and I'm not going to put any more effort or money into something that's not worked and isn't likely to work.
The vast majority of web users, as I see it, have no money - which is why they're online whenever they can be as it's dirt cheap entertainment. Sure - there might be people with money but they're looking for something very specific. Photographers come well down the list. In fact, most people I've met, find their photographers through traditional advertising (Yellow Pages) or through personal contacts.
if you want to test the effectiveness of a website you need to have a good crack at it and make a really good one. you also need to make sure that it showcases great images and those images arent confusing for the prospective customer.
when you mix legal photos and cards being split with bullets with people photos then people look the other way. you need to decide what exactly it is you are selling andonce you decide that then showcase it as best you can with GREAT images.
to me your photography "business" seems confused so i'm sure customers would feel the same way. the reason i dont have a website is cos i've had a crack at it and the sites sucked so all i do by having one is damage and undersell myself.
I'm just going for a straight slideshow of high-speed images at the moment. No text other than contact details and the text is embedded in a slide. Nothing will show up on a Google search. I can't say I really want to be Googlable since all it draws is people wanting to sell premium listing crap.
Herm, your first photo is blurry.
Yes, its high-speed, congrats, its blurry and looks Out of focus.
All high-speed images are a bit blurry check here for an example:
http://web.mit.edu/edgerton/
cdifoto
08-11-2009, 09:05 PM
All high-speed images are a bit blurry check here for an example:
http://web.mit.edu/edgerton/
Looks sharp to me.
Actually, no. I've never seen any high-speed images that are really sharp. They all have a slight fuzziness. Mind, look at the difference, mine are taken at 1/35,000th of a second. Those on the MIT site are 1/1,000,000th of a second. I might build a microsecond flash later. I have a capacitance meter kit on its way. When I have that, I can build my own capacitor. Then it's down to Autozone for my transformer and Radio Shack for the parts to make the coil driver. When that's done, I will have to hunt out my ionizing coil. Add to that various sundry resistors and diodes (each capable of carrying 50kv).
cdifoto
08-11-2009, 09:46 PM
Clients/potential clients don't care why an image isn't good.
Good point. In the world of high-speed photography though - any recognisable image is good.
SpecialK
08-11-2009, 10:42 PM
Ah well, I couldn't really care less about websites anyway. If they fell off the face of the earth I wouldn't even miss them.
Edit...
Well, it's not so much that I don't care. I've tried, it didn't work and I'm not going to put any more effort or money into something that's not worked and isn't likely to work.
I wasn't going to say anything, but I changed my mind...
From reading your blog, you are bothered that people are complaining about your website content rather than giving you tips on getting traffic to them. This is a forum of mostly average people with a photography slant, not marketing specialists.
But, I would be a bit suspicious if a company had no website at all. Even a well done static one-page design with the basics.
In the past, in a thread you asked for help with a web design. It was, frankly, rudimentary at the time and no real constructive comments could be offered because of it.
I did, however, PM you 2 times about the blatant errors on one of your sites. I had no reply. Quite later, I noticed it was uncorrected, and I posted the problem (even highlighted it in red) in the thread. Those errors are still there now.
So here it is again:
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This is the home of four great things:
1. My blog
2. My Computer-oriented website.
3. My Photography business website.
4. My articles on photography.
5. An excellent example of Nigerian scamming.
Why did I host all three on the same webspace?
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Your first link goes to that page, which is simply small black type on white background (with too much white space).
The second link starts off "this website is no longer updated or supported..." and has only minimal graphics and the same black on white format.
The third link has a slide-show of a few high-speed images, and a phone number and address. No other features that I could see.
The fourth link has problems with punctuation and missing words. Also, the choice of images may not be the best - why the checkerboard "fashion fare" for instance?
No offense, but none of that really instills a sense of confidence.
As far as how to get people to your site, I have no idea other than there are keywords you can embed in the metadata etc. to help on searches. Also, getting a link to your page from other pages (such as community websites) can help. It may require some trading...
I have a website about a 15-year old cancelled TV show that gets about (let me check...) 4 or 5 hits a day (and probably half are bots). Luckily, it's only for fun, so I don't have to worry about the hits, or lack of them.
cdifoto
08-11-2009, 10:52 PM
Good point. In the world of high-speed photography though - any recognisable image is good.
Client: "But these images are blurred!"
Photographer: "Yeah well...it was hard!"
Good luck with that, Rhys.
CDI, You clearly haven't seen any Schlieren photography. Let me paste a link to a schlieren image: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Schlieren_photography.jpg
cdifoto
08-11-2009, 11:26 PM
Ok I stand corrected. You don't need a website or technically good images. You need a NASA contract.
Client: "But these images are blurred!"
Photographer: "Yeah well...it was hard!"
Good luck with that, Rhys.
Hahahahaaaa. Oh thats Gold.
I think its time we let it go and just walk away... We arent even debating websites anymore.
Mark_48
08-12-2009, 07:58 AM
Rhys,
What is your ultimate goal that you're looking to achieve with the high-speed photography? Is it simply the challenge and self gratification of being able to create high-speed images or is it your intention to market and sell images or services? I can see the possiblilty of some sales in the stock photography market if the images exhibit something unique that isn't a cliché of what's already out there. Other than that, what would be the client market you would go after and how?
James DeRuvo DHQ
08-19-2009, 10:16 PM
You can only go so far by using the kid next door or doing it yourself when it comes to a business website. You gotta spend money. These days, a website is part brochure, part business card, part sales portal. And if you have a fly by night site, chances are it means you have a fly by night operation.
The clientelle that I'm interested in for high-speed photography couldn't care less about art. They want to see what's happening.
As far as websites go, 99% of photographer's websites are fly-by-night because a lot of self-proclaimed professional photographers are fly-by-nights who moonlight as a photographer while working their day job as a shipping clerk or whatever.
On the other hand I can show you some photographers with really crappy websites that do most of their business out of their studio. The website's just there to get some extra.
Incidentally, a wedding planner asked to see my portfolio a few days ago, having been wowed by my website.
Now the photos there are all taken with very standard camera kit. If and when I build my microflash then I will be putting much more spectacular images up. I've run into two problems with the 580EX2:
1. At 1/128th there's just not enough light to use 100ASA and f11 so I have to use f5.6. A microflash will cure this.
2. 1/128th is 1/35,000th of a second and that's ridiculously long. As an example, at 500 feet per second, a .177 airgun pellet will have a blur of .17 of an inch blur (that's about the length of the pellet) whereas a microflash will have a 1mm blur on a bullet traveling at 2,000 feet per second.
Incidentally, a wedding planner asked to see my portfolio a few days ago, having been wowed by my website.
that's just an outright lie.
cdifoto
08-20-2009, 04:59 AM
that's just an outright lie.
Could have been the "other" kind of wow.
lol i never thought of that
that's just an outright lie.
Pity - I'd thought more of you, Rooz.
Mark_48
08-20-2009, 07:49 AM
The clientelle that I'm interested in for high-speed photography couldn't care less about art. They want to see what's happening.
And who might these clients be? Who is the "they"? No evasive answers please.
Incidentally, a wedding planner asked to see my portfolio a few days ago, having been wowed by my website.
Last I looked your current website bears no relationship to weddings. What could have "wowed" a wedding planner? Capturing the bouquet midair with high speed flash? I'd be wary of a scam in the making.
Oh, by the way... the picture tube you disposed of is likely the only part of the TV chassis you have that might have had retained any high voltage, although high humidity may have drained that off. It's essentially a big glass capacitor between the anode connection and the shield coating on the exterior of the tube. What remains on the chassis would be much lower voltage and most caps would have been bled off of any charge due to components connected.
Ray Schnoor
08-20-2009, 07:56 AM
Last I looked your current website bears no relationship to weddings. What could have "wowed" a wedding planner?
Actually, I think that this wedding planner has a client who wants to shoot her husband during the reception and was hoping to catch the bullet as it makes its exit out the back...
Ray.
Mark, I'm aiming for industry - particularly where high-speed imaging is required. Police forensics is just one example. They have a hard time trying to find people who can do high-speed imaging.
As far as what wowed a wedding planner, she was impressed by the high-speed images.
Regarding the TV guts, there are some 330v capacitors in there that might still be holding a charge. I'm interested solely in the flyback and its associated diodes and resistors at the moment. Having said that, I'm not likely to disect that board for a while yet. My immediate priority is to build my capacitance meter, parts of which have sat in my drawer for a couple of weeks.
AdamW
08-20-2009, 10:31 AM
As far as websites go, 99% of photographer's websites are fly-by-night because a lot of self-proclaimed professional photographers are fly-by-nights who moonlight as a photographer while working their day job as a shipping clerk or whatever.
The bit about the wedding planner may or may not be true, but this is clearly a case of Rhys making up statistics.
The bit about the wedding planner may or may not be true, but this is clearly a case of Rhys making up statistics.
Ahem... The photographer's websites that I've seen have definitely been somewhat strange.
Generally, the flashier and more effective looking the website, the crappier the photographer. I've seen a few really nice looking websites with really nice looking photos then I find the photos come from places like this: http://www.freedigitalphotos.net
http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/images/photos/472_-1.jpg
cdifoto
08-20-2009, 04:27 PM
As far as websites go, 99% of photographer's websites are fly-by-night because a lot of self-proclaimed professional photographers are fly-by-nights who moonlight as a photographer while working their day job as a shipping clerk or whatever.
Fly-by-night isn't the same as part-time or starting out.
What's your day job, Rhys?
look i'm not making comment about your photography, each to their own. there are lots of people that think my photos are crap or uninteresting...photography is a matter of opinion and personal taste. but i know a pisspoor website when i see it. i'm not stupid. i know it intimately cos all my own attempts were just that...pisspoor. the fact that a wedding planner would look at your website and be excited about it speaks volumes about the "planner".
as for your comment about the flashier the website the crappier the photographer...well that's just complete and utter nonsense. have you see the websites from some of the people on this very site ? great sites. awesome pics.
if you choose to live in a world of denial then so be it...whatevere helps you sleep at night; but dont expect to say outlandish stuff like that on a public photography forum and not be challenged by people that know better.
Mark_48
08-20-2009, 05:34 PM
Fly-by-night isn't the same as part-time or starting out.
What's your day job, Rhys?
The bit about the wedding planner may or may not be true, but this is clearly a case of Rhys making up statistics.
Fly-by-night Congressman? :D
James DeRuvo DHQ
08-22-2009, 12:22 AM
The opening paragraph from this article (http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-145338456.html) says it all ...
"As the old saying goes you never get a second chance to make a first impression. That statement is especially true when referring to a business website. Customers worldwide are looking for products & services online, and there is no shortage of sites from which to choose. Broken links, spelling and grammatical errors, html errors, annoying flashing graphics or pop-ups can actually drive visitors away as quickly as they came."
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