View Full Version : Is anybody excited about todays Nikon announcements?
That is of course assuming that they do actually happen. :D
dr4gon
07-29-2009, 05:16 PM
I was just thinking this same thing. Rooz, you aren't? lol I guess that would make me more excited than you! Couple reasons, one being I'm interested in seeing what the potential benefits for Sony are, although the D300s looks like it will have the same sensor? (We'll see in a few hours) and the D3000 will probably have the same D5000/D90 sensor (also found in the A700).
Ah well, I'm still excited! ;) The prospect of a more refined HD mode is very welcomed.
i was referring to the lens' announcements mainly.
70-200/2.8 II - yeah, this will be a cracking lens for sure but not one i'm personally wanting.
18-200VR II - again, a worthwhile upgrade but not so much of interest to me.
wanna get me excited about glass ? give me...
35/1.4 afs
85/1.4 afs
200/4 afs VR micro
300/4 afs VR
as for the bodies a d3000 is not for me, its a basic model which will be cool for entry level but no real exictment for me.the d300s and d700s(??) look to be a d300/d700 with video so for me its not a big deal until they get video AF working much better. i'm convinced video is the way to go in dslr but i suspect its a generation or 2 away before its something i'll buy into.
wanna get me excited about a body ?
give me a d700 body and sensor with a flip screen and video that works flawlessly.
dr4gon
07-29-2009, 05:58 PM
i was referring to the lens' announcements mainly.
70-200/2.8 II - yeah, this will be a cracking lens for sure but not one i'm personally wanting.
18-200VR II - again, a worthwhile upgrade but not so much of interest to me.
wanna get me excited about glass ? give me...
35/1.4 afs
85/1.4 afs
200/4 afs VR micro
300/4 afs VR
as for the bodies a d3000 is not for me, its a basic model which will be cool for entry level but no real exictment for me.the d300s and d700s(??) look to be a d300/d700 with video so for me its not a big deal until they get video AF working much better. i'm convinced video is the way to go in dslr but i suspect its a generation or 2 away before its something i'll buy into.
wanna get me excited about a body ?
give me a d700 body and sensor with a flip screen and video that works flawlessly.
Hmmm, I think I would be satisfied with the $200 35mm F/1.8 that keeps flying off the shelves. I wonder how much a Nikon 35mm F/1.4 would go for? Sony's G version is pretty crappy and sells for ~$1350 and Canon's is ~$1250. A 200mm F/4 VR micro (macro) would be awesome. I could probably finally get close enough to some of the insects that just run away when they see me. Lastly, a new 300mm F/4 VR would be great too. I think I would sacrifice 200mm F/2.8 for another stop to get to 300mm!
A D3000 if it's small may be what I'm looking for potentially as a small decent camera that I can stick a 50mm equivalent on, then again I'll probably got the point and shoot route some time later on (Panasonic LX).
My only real interest is in the price of the new 70-200 f2.8.
If it's the same or similar to the current lens it should drive the price on the used ones down (and maybe get a heap more on the market). If it's substantially more expensive then the used ones will be heading up in price and all of the ones I have seen go on ebay for what I thought was silly money may suddenly look like good deals.
Screenclutter
07-29-2009, 07:39 PM
There are the rumoured "expected" annoucements
But maybe we are wondering if Nikon has a surprise of some sort
My only real interest is in the price of the new 70-200 f2.8.
That makes two of us.
N.C.F.
07-29-2009, 09:25 PM
Give me...
35mm f1.4 AF-S FX (Who doesn't want this?)
150mm f2.8 AF-S VR Macro FX (Getting rid of the older 200mm f4)
16-85mm f4 AF-S VR DX (pipe-dream)
dr4gon
07-29-2009, 09:33 PM
Would a 200mm F/2.8 macro be possible? I don't see why not. At 1:1 magnification the aperture decreases anyway.
Well, rumors are officially fact. Nikonrumors.com has all the links. I'm with rooz though, not really excited about anything being announced today.
yepp, its all official now. pretty basic non events really. the current 18-200 had lots of room for improvement, but i dont know how much better the 70-200 can be that the "old" version. we shall see i suppose. i suspect it will be fractionally better in the centre and alot better corner to corner. they also claim faster AF...that would be...WOW !
KevinMelody.net
07-29-2009, 11:43 PM
Nothing unexpected in the two cameras but I'm suffering from GAS (gear acquisition syndrome) again...
Main changes in the D300s seems to be extra fps and video mode. Same 12.3mp on the same sensor. It has dual slots to accept both CF and SD cards.
Not sure what the D3000 brings to the table though.
Would like that lens though :)
achuang
07-29-2009, 11:54 PM
Nothing really tempting about the announcements except maybe the new 70-200 which I won't be able to afford for a while anyway. But hopefully will make the older one cheaper.
wirehunt
07-30-2009, 01:20 AM
Give me...
35mm f1.4 AF-S FX (Who doesn't want this?)
150mm f2.8 AF-S VR Macro FX (Getting rid of the older 200mm f4)
16-85mm f4 AF-S VR DX (pipe-dream)
That pipe dream of your's very similiar to mine :D
Well I don't mind the fact that the D700 has dropped by just over 1G here (NZ) and the 70-200 isn't far behind.
Anyone know if they have dropped the prices in Aus???
Anyone know if they have dropped the prices in Aus???
There is one Sydney dealer offering D300 bodies for about $300 less today than last week but I suspect that is just to clear stock. In the last couple of weeks the same dealer has been selling 70-200 f2.8's for about $250 less than normal.
KevinMelody.net
07-30-2009, 05:23 AM
There is one Sydney dealer offering D300 bodies for about $300 less today than last week.
Who is that? I'd be keen to get a D300 if the price was right.
Cheers.
ECS
$2195 body only.
Deals with 18-200 (old model) and 16-85
dr4gon
07-30-2009, 05:49 AM
:\ The excitement wore off quickly when I saw the $2400USD price tag to that 70-200mm. That price is absurd!
It's a shame too the D300s is only a minor revision, but I guess that's expected, wonder if any other improvements in IQ were made.
eddie_dane
07-30-2009, 06:55 AM
did they actually take the focus lock buttons off the 70-200? I like those.
Screenclutter
07-30-2009, 08:56 AM
Some of those prices are a bit painful,
70-200
£1999 and €2430
versus $2399.95 US
18-200
£729.99 and €887.00
versus $849.95 US
And if I'm reading the news correctly, I don't think the US dollar is particularly strong at the moment
dr4gon
07-30-2009, 09:03 AM
Yikes that is pretty bad, and I thought the Sony 70-200mm G SSM was expensive at $1750 USD. The Japanese Yen isn't even doing that bad.... these are crazy. I was also suprised at the 18-200mm. VRII is just so pricey. Do they really think they could sustain $2400 though? I'm thinking street will be more like $2100, then again maybe not. Camera bodies seem to be getting cheaper as lenses get progressively more expensive.
XaiLo
07-30-2009, 09:37 AM
OK... I'm liking the D3000 after shooting with the 70-200 for 10hrs straight... I'm back to every 1/2 pound counts. lol Seriously the 11 focus points will be appreciated I can see picking up one at it's end of cycle to replace my beloved D40.
But over all it's a really dissappointing announcement... except considering the 70-200mm is a workhorse lense and the advent of the D3 & D700 this lens will have a market, no doubt! D300s drives down the price of the D300 I think that's a good thing... The 18-200mm unless it's stellar who cares lol.
erichlund
07-30-2009, 11:40 AM
I have nothing more to say on this subject.
fionndruinne
07-30-2009, 07:05 PM
Disappointing that the D3000 still carries a CCD sensor... Nikon has leapt over a divide in high-ISO image quality with their CMOS sensors, now if they'd only drop the CCD sensor altogether. Max ISO of (probably grainy and ugly) 3200 isn't an improvement on the D40, heck, it sounds like the D40x sensor.
dr4gon
07-30-2009, 08:15 PM
The D3000's sensor is the same as the D60. Main improvement was the 11-point 3d-AF tracking (think I read that on DPR).
fionndruinne
07-30-2009, 08:37 PM
Yeah, enhanced AF is good. Higher quality sensor would be even better.
RichNY
07-30-2009, 09:07 PM
Nice incremental improvements but nothing for me to get excited about or want to upgrade to.
Rooz-
35 f/1.4 - I'm with you and have been considering picking up a manual focus AIS copy.
85 f/1.4 - I'm pretty happy with the current version and don't need faster AF
200 micro - I just bought 200 micro and will be using it strictly for macro where it will be used with manual focus and tripod mounted atop macro rails. Do you want the AFS/VR for handheld macro or for other uses?
300/4 afs VR - makes sense along with many other f/4 lenses
I don't find myself really lusting for any photo gear, current or future. What's been calling me are some more great photo vacations.
Esoterra
07-30-2009, 10:28 PM
To sit back and think about today's new releases from Nikon makes you see that the current lineup of Nikon paraphernalia currently available on the market it pretty good. I don't know about you, but I'm loving the D700 + 14-24 combo, and even if they come out with a D700s or x version, if you are using your camera to its potential and know good lighting when you see it, there are few instances where not having the latest and greatest will leave you wanting.
200 micro - I just bought 200 micro and will be using it strictly for macro where it will be used with manual focus and tripod mounted atop macro rails. Do you want the AFS/VR for handheld macro or for other uses?
handheld. i rarely shoot macro on a tripod. sometimes a monopod.
to me nikon should have a range of top of the line glass with top of the line features. God knows they charge for it. so it almost becomes a situation where its not about what i need, its about what i get for my money.
RichNY
07-31-2009, 12:40 AM
handheld. i rarely shoot macro on a tripod. sometimes a monopod.
to me nikon should have a range of top of the line glass with top of the line features. God knows they charge for it. so it almost becomes a situation where its not about what i need, its about what i get for my money.
Unfortunately I'm not steady enough to handhold a 200mm macro lens even with VR. The lens I wish Nikon made would be something similar to the Canon MP-E 64mm http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/183199-USA/Canon_2540A002_Macro_Photo_MP_E_65mm.html
I've considered picking one of these up for use on my 30D but I would really like to sell of the remainder of my Canon gear and be completely Nikon.
dr4gon
07-31-2009, 11:33 AM
Unfortunately I'm not steady enough to handhold a 200mm macro lens even with VR. The lens I wish Nikon made would be something similar to the Canon MP-E 64mm http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/183199-USA/Canon_2540A002_Macro_Photo_MP_E_65mm.html
I've considered picking one of these up for use on my 30D but I would really like to sell of the remainder of my Canon gear and be completely Nikon.
I agree, the MP-E 65mm 5:1 macro is a really neat lens!
Must be fun juggling two systems huh? I've toyed with a Sony+Nikon system, but it's just too expensive. :rolleyes:
RichNY
07-31-2009, 12:00 PM
I agree, the MP-E 65mm 5:1 macro is a really neat lens!
Must be fun juggling two systems huh? I've toyed with a Sony+Nikon system, but it's just too expensive. :rolleyes:
I'm actually not juggling the two systems. I sold off my 1DMarkIIN and 85 f/1.8 and the rest of the gear in my signature list hasn't been touched in over a year. I need to get off my butt and sell it.
herc182
08-02-2009, 01:17 PM
interesting:
http://nikonrumors.com/2009/08/01/nikon-will-reveal-something-groundbreaking-next-week.aspx
faisal
08-02-2009, 01:37 PM
built in projector......why??
built in projector......why??
It's been rumoured consistently for some time so there may be some basis of fact in it. I think that it will be great as a business camera it will save lugging the Notebook and doing the Powerpoint presentations in many cases.
Screenclutter
08-02-2009, 09:31 PM
APS-C on a point-and-shoot got my eye, but this is something lots of people have been dreaming about for years.
Guess they have to try this sometime and see what they can learn from its rumoured first release, seeing all these four thirds cameras coming out.
The lens I wish Nikon made would be something similar to the Canon MP-E 64mm
Me too, that MP-E is one hell of a lens. I've never used one, I'm judging based on the results I've seen.
built in projector......why??
Well you may ask why but Nikon have gone ahead and done it anyway. :D
http://www.dcresource.com/images/news/nikon_080409/S1000pj_BK_front34l_lo-tb.jpg
http://www.dcresource.com/images/news/nikon_080409/S1000PJ_ambience_flat.jpg
RichNY
08-03-2009, 11:30 PM
I'm actually pleased with today's Coolpix announcements. My smallest camera is an S3IS and I'm looking forward to a nice pocket sized camera.
I think that the projection feature of the S1000pj will be prove to be very useful; I just wish it had resolution greater than VGA.
faisal
08-04-2009, 12:19 AM
VGA projector....not the best but I suppose something is better than nothing. Makes sense but how many people would want to make a business presentation in VGA quality. I suppose its more to just show family members some images.....does it allow video projection???
interesting. i dont quite know how to take it. at least they are being innovative and thinking outside the square i suppose.
be nice though if they could build a CP that actually takes high quality photos before they started with this stuff. nah...that would be too logical.
be nice though if they could build a CP that actually takes high quality photos before they started with this stuff. nah...that would be too logical.
Then they would have to have a projector with a decent resolution. It's a chicken and egg thing really. I wonder who the "touch where you want to focus" on the LCD will work in practice. Most P&S users probably have no concept of focus.
RichNY
08-04-2009, 08:50 PM
I wonder how the "touch where you want to focus" on the LCD will work in practice.
This will certainly bring a whole new dimension to boudoir photography ;)
This will certainly bring a whole new dimension to boudoir photography ;)
"just touch here and see the flash" :D
faisal
08-05-2009, 12:07 AM
I wonder who the "touch where you want to focus" on the LCD will work in practice. Most P&S users probably have no concept of focus.
The touch where you want to focus depends on how many focus points the camera has. Like when I use it on the cybershot T90, I can choose any of the 9 focus points it has. I'm guessing the same applies to the Nikon....which btw I've seen a lot of people use cause it's simple and fun....
Here's a quick example....
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/faisal7/400D/DSC00222.jpg
Gintaras
08-05-2009, 06:28 AM
lets hope Nikon listens to FF users and develops more FF glass by the time i decide to upgrade to FF. i might go FF next year spring, winter is not my season for shooting.
what glass are you waiting for gintaras ?
Aldor88
08-06-2009, 06:16 PM
lol did Nikon unveil these in Amsterdam? I was there July 30th and had no idea :(.
Nothing ground breaking in these announcements, I guess the 70-200 was needed for FX. Looking forward to seeing how much better the new 18-200 is gonna be.
lets hope Nikon listens to FF users and develops more FF glass by the time i decide to upgrade to FF. i might go FF next year spring, winter is not my season for shooting.
So you plan to jump ship to Nikon then?
fionndruinne
08-06-2009, 10:01 PM
... c-o-m-e to us, friend... we have cake!
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