Mukhtar

[faisal]

Made my neighbor/friend/assistant pose for me today so that I could practice some off camera flash. Woke up at 4:45am to avoid a crowd!!!
Best part is I forgot to take one of the golden adaptors that came with my Manfrotto flash head so could not use the Flash stand... :rolleyes:

1)
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/faisal7/400D/IMG_3590small.jpg
92mm, 1/160, f3.2, ISO 200

2)
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/faisal7/400D/IMG_3611small.jpg
159mm, 1/160, f3.2, ISO 200

3)
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/faisal7/400D/IMG_3599.jpg
200mm, 1/160, f3.2, ISO 200

C&C welcome as usual....

[Rooz]

maybe a good idea to describe the look you were going for fais cos i assume you had something in mind; especially with the PP.

[Viky]

Wow! 4:45 am!!

Great shots, but there are different color casts in all of them:(

I like #2 the best

[faisal]

maybe a good idea to describe the look you were going for fais cos i assume you had something in mind; especially with the PP.

Just the usual washed out with split toning look....The originals have the same colour cast, this is all added later with white balance and tint....the second one is the closest to the original colour...

I still haven't gotten a specific style. I PP each shot depending on the composition, lighting etc which results in mostly different PP for different shots...


Wow! 4:45 am!!

Great shots, but there are different color casts in all of them:(

I like #2 the best

Best way to avoid an audience is to get out early...I hate people staring and with the huge 70-200mm, I seem to be getting more attention lately...so 4:45am it is....doing the same tomorrow, but going to be shooting my friends car...

Got a question....even in the originals, the hair still ends up being mostly a black blob. Do I need another flash light to fill in to get some detail into the hair??

[FLiPMaRC]

:cool: Very nice Faisal.



Are you going for that "Hard Light" look?

[faisal]

Thanks

Whats a Hard light look unless it means harsh light look you mean....

[FLiPMaRC]

Same difference :p

http://strobist.blogspot.com/2009/05/moishe-brakhas-dirty-light.html

http://www.digitalfusion.net/news/feature/20080601-01.php

[24Peter]

Nice ones Faisal. I also think a little softer light would work but more importantly, raising the light higher on the face would be more flattering. Lighting from such a low angle creates shadows that in particular make his nose look wider.

[faisal]

Same difference :p

http://strobist.blogspot.com/2009/05/moishe-brakhas-dirty-light.html

http://www.digitalfusion.net/news/feature/20080601-01.php

Ohk...I don't own an umbrella yet so I have no choice but to go for a hard light look...this was just my second time at it so I just placed the flash randomly anywhere, asked him to pose and clicked away...I now have a slight idea what I'm doing but still don't know enough... :o


Nice ones Faisal. I also think a little softer light would work but more importantly, raising the light higher on the face would be more flattering. Lighting from such a low angle creates shadows that in particular make his nose look wider.

I'm going to do this again tomorrow hopefully if I get a chance. Will use a diffuser to soften the light and use my stand to raise the light....Thanks for the pointers.. :cool:

[michaelb]

Faisal, I liked your last "model" series much better. The colors/WB here looks odd and the poses aren't nearly as flattering as in the last series.

[Rooz]

i think the light is too harsh, too close to the subject and has too much power. having the light come from underneath as a key light aswell is imo, not very flattering.

[cdifoto]

I agree with Rooz. I probably wouldn't even bother using them as my main/key lights until I got an umbrella or soft box. They're just too harsh. It's the same as using direct flash on the camera indoors. As fill they're fine and at night when you don't have a choice it can be accepted, but it's not flattering.

At the very least, raise them up so they're over head and pointing down.

[faisal]

Faisal, I liked your last "model" series much better. The colors/WB here looks odd and the poses aren't nearly as flattering as in the last series.

Hmm...he's happy with his pictures so I'll give these to him and when I re do a shoot with an umbrella, I'll work on the WB again...too much experimenting isn't always good I suppose.... :|

Btw he could not pose....very camera conscious...


i think the light is too harsh, too close to the subject and has too much power. having the light come from underneath as a key light aswell is imo, not very flattering.

Instead of compensating with SS/ISO/aperture, I was compensating lack of light with more power on the flash. Lots to learn.....and yes, need to use a light stand....


I agree with Rooz. I probably wouldn't even bother using them as my main/key lights until I got an umbrella or soft box. They're just too harsh. It's the same as using direct flash on the camera indoors. As fill they're fine and at night when you don't have a choice it can be accepted, but it's not flattering.

At the very least, raise them up so they're over head and pointing down.

My umbrella is due in the first week of July, I suppose I'll wait till then for some more flash work. Till then I'll just use a reflector....

Was suppose to re shoot the dude today but after a late night (watching the terrible Transformer movie) I couldn't wake up today!!!

Anyway Thanks all for your comments.... :)

[Rooz]

fais, i'd suggest you start with 1/160s, f5.6 there or therabouts anyway and work around that to start with. then you can focus on your flash power and positioning which is by far more critical in this sort of shot than ss/aperture/iso. of course umbrellas will produce a much softer light so that will be a great buy, but again, the bigger deal here is you nuked him.

[faisal]

Now I know why he was trying to avoid looking at the flash every time he posed... :o

I think I also used the wrong lens, the 70-200 is just plain too heavy to handhold in lowlight, should have used the 85mm.

I'm making three of my friends pose for me next month (3 girls who wouldn't mind getting photographed for as long as I want) so will keep all of this in mind....thanks again!!! :D