This isnt deserving of a new thread

[r3g]

BUT I GOT MY D90 A FEW HOURS AGO AND IM SO EFFIN HAPPY!!! Spent the first hour or so reading the manual PDF and getting to know the buttons. TBH the amount of buttons were kinda intemidating to me coming from the D40 but with it actually in my hands how its not that bad. I have really big hands so the size difference is awesome. Cant wait to figure out the exposure bracketing and bang out some REAL HDRs :D



I feel so stupid cuz I spend about 2 hours troubleshooting why my explorer.exe was crashing repeatedly after I put an NEF on my desktop when all I had to do was update Camera RAW lol.. -_____-;

[VTEC_EATER]

BUT I GOT MY D90 A FEW HOURS AGO AND IM SO EFFIN HAPPY!!! Spent the first hour or so reading the manual PDF and getting to know the buttons. TBH the amount of buttons were kinda intemidating to me coming from the D40 but with it actually in my hands how its not that bad. I have really big hands so the size difference is awesome. Cant wait to figure out the exposure bracketing and bang out some REAL HDRs :D



I feel so stupid cuz I spend about 2 hours troubleshooting why my explorer.exe was crashing repeatedly after I put an NEF on my desktop when all I had to do was update Camera RAW lol.. -_____-;

Congrats on the D90. Definitely a big step up from the D40 with regard to feature the features, and quick changing of settings. You will also see how handy the top LCD is and wonder how you ever managed to live without one.

Are you keeping your D40, or selling it off?

[XaiLo]

Congrats Lil Bro! Now you have no excuse not to be out there shooting. And try out the movie mode and let me know how you like it. I think I used movie mode on the S3 twice. Haven't tried the 90 yet. lol



Are you keeping your D40, or selling it off?

Sell the D40 blasphemy I tell you or you try to pick up a D40 on the lo lo VTEC_EATER? :p j/k

[Rooz]

congrats reggie. :)

[K1W1]

Congratulations, now when are you getting a man size camera? :D:D

(I think that my attitude seems to have changed lately)

[BikerJohn]

I sure hope you love it or else I would have wasted a lot of money going straight to the D90 vs getting the D40!!

But you'll love it!

[Rooz]

BJ, you wont regret making the move you did. alot of it comes down to budget and youre fortunate in that you had the budget to jump right into a d90. reggie was one of the pioneers of the d40 on this forum so its kinda sad for him to retire a piece of equipment that has produced so many wonderful shots. there are a handful of d40 shooters in here who put others to shame considering what they were doing with the cheapest setup around.

[r3g]

Are you keeping your D40, or selling it off?


Giving it to my GF as her first DSLR. That way she can put that ol A1 away and I'll still be able to use it as a backup if I ever need a second body.



Congratulations, now when are you getting a man size camera? :D:D

What I lack in camera I make up with my motorcycle :rolleyes::D:cool:



BJ, you wont regret making the move you did. alot of it comes down to budget and youre fortunate in that you had the budget to jump right into a d90. reggie was one of the pioneers of the d40 on this forum so its kinda sad for him to retire a piece of equipment that has produced so many wonderful shots. there are a handful of d40 shooters in here who put others to shame considering what they were doing with the cheapest setup around.

Wow.. That means a lot to me Rooz, thx



Congrats Lil Bro! Now you have no excuse not to be out there shooting.


3 shoots in the past week and a half.. I'M TRYING I TELL YOU!!

[N.C.F.]

I find this thread entirely justified. You've done some amazing work with D40, so I'm anxious to see how much the hardware change will improve you.

I already envy your work, now i'm going to have to stop looking at it! (Kidding of course :D:p)

[r3g]

Had no idea people liked my work so much. You guys r making me feel like a real photographer or somethin :)


The one thing that does bug me though is not being able to sync my flashes above 1/250sec shutter. I was syncing the D40 at almost 1/1250. Guess Ill be stopping down a lot more from now on. Any reason they dont give all the Nikons electronic shutters? From what I read thats the reason the D40 can sync so fast (as opposed to mechanical shutters) and faster sync speeds seem to be something everyone is begging for in the world of strobist.

[N.C.F.]

Had no idea people liked my work so much. You guys r making me feel like a real photographer or somethin :)


The one thing that does bug me though is not being able to sync my flashes above 1/250sec shutter. I was syncing the D40 at almost 1/1250. Guess Ill be stopping down a lot more from now on. Any reason they dont give all the Nikons electronic shutters? From what I read thats the reason the D40 can sync so fast (as opposed to mechanical shutters) and faster sync speeds seem to be something everyone is begging for in the world of strobist.

That's something that has always bothered me too, and I never understood. However, don't forget (if you're willing to sacrifice some battery life) you can sync at higher speeds with Auto FP. In fact, I use it often when i'm having to shoot people on bright days and don't want to sacrifice my DOF.

[r3g]

How high does that allow you to sync? I've yet to get through the whole manual.

[RED_Partizan]

Congrats. I'm a big fan of yours too

[N.C.F.]

How high does that allow you to sync? I've yet to get through the whole manual.

All the way to 1/4000. Here's an example. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ncfranklin/3386882226/meta/in/set-72157614510360789)

[r3g]

Sweeeet. How much faster does it kill the battery? I plan on picking up a grip really soon, they are a lot cheaper than I thought they were granted you still have to buy a second battery or rechargables.

[N.C.F.]

Sweeeet. How much faster does it kill the battery? I plan on picking up a grip really soon, they are a lot cheaper than I thought they were granted you still have to buy a second battery or rechargables.

No no, not the camera batteries. It's not doing anything more. It's the flash batteries that die. Here's a great write up on Auto-FP High Speed Sync explaining it all. (http://nikonclspracticalguide.blogspot.com/2008/03/10-auto-fp-high-speed-sync-explained.html)

[r3g]

Maybe I'm blind but I didnt see anything in there that says Auto FP applies to off camera flashes also.


Edit - Went went ahead and tried syncing higher than 1/250 with Auto FP on and it made absolutely no difference.

[XaiLo]

Maybe I'm blind but I didnt see anything in there that says Auto FP applies to off camera flashes also.


Edit - Went went ahead and tried syncing higher than 1/250 with Auto FP on and it made absolutely no difference.

I hope you're not trying it with your triggers? And did you put the cam in comander mode?

[r3g]

Ya I'm trying it with my triggers.. I'll never use CLS. All good though, I can work around not being able to sync past 1/250 I'm just not excited about it.

[XaiLo]

Auto FP only works with CLS. 1/250 I suppose that's where the Skyports are worth the extra dollars they sync up to 1/4000. I have to get around to that review of them they've been great so far.

[r3g]

Cybersyncs can sync up to 1/4000 also. Its the camera's sync speed thats too slow. If they put a faster syncing shutter on a (at the time) $600 camera why wouldnt they on the next model up?

[fionndruinne]

That's a good question, Reg. Congrats on the cam, if I had any cha-ching I'd be doin' the same thing. The D40 was its own little revolution, and we all had fun with its interim government here, but I think, given most of us are a little more proficient now, the D90 is sort of our Parliament :p

[ANP !!!]

Amazing purchase. Congrats, definitely a great step from a D40.

[r3g]

You know there was all that talk when the D40 came out about lens limitations. But not once have I felt limited. And now that I have a camera with an in body motor I cant think of any lenses I absolutely have to have. I'm thinking maybe a 50mm 1.4 but I may need some help justifying that purchase having recently gained access to the 35mm 1.8. And I'll need something to replace my kit lens (suggestions anyone?) Doesnt have to cover the same range as the 18-55. I'm willing to give up a few MM on the wide and telephoto end for quality and/or speed.

[K1W1]

Doesnt have to cover the same range as the 18-55. I'm willing to give up a few MM on the wide and telephoto end for quality and/or speed.

I'm very happy with the 16-85 for me. I know that they are not everybodies cup of tea but it suits me just fine.
I guess if image quality is the main factor maybe a 17-55 f2.8.

[r3g]

What turns people off abotu the 16-85? And are you talking about the Nikkor 17-55 2.8? I hope not cuz I dont have $1100 to spend on lenses :(

[r3g]

I was looking at the Tamron 17-35mm f/2.8-4 Di SP AF and the Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 Di II (though I read the AF is pretty slow and there may be build quality issues). SLR Gear tested and recommends both of them and they are both in the $400 range

[Rooz]

What turns people off abotu the 16-85?

cost.


I was looking at the Tamron 17-35mm f/2.8-4 Di SP AF and the Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 Di II (though I read the AF is pretty slow and there may be build quality issues). SLR Gear tested and recommends both of them and they are both in the $400 range

imho, forget them both. the 35/1.8 will blow them both out of the water. with the exception of UWA, dont touch anything but nikkors from now on, you;re going to places with your photography that shouldnt have comprimise. (sorry to anyone else who rates 3rd party).

50/1.4G
85/1.8 (if you're prepared to stop down)
105VR
80-200/2.8 for portrait head shots.

[nsjuice]

I recently came across some dope motorcyle shots not realizi g they were from you.

I too look forward to more. Ur pics remind me of the old days.... Bikes , the bay, and the single life.

Congrats and keep the dream alive! LOL.

[K1W1]

What turns people off abotu the 16-85?


Yes what Rooz said. People look at it and say that they can buy a 18-200 for more or less the same money.

[umijin]

I'm very happy with my D90 too, after fussing with a few point and shoots for a few years. Even the direct output images of my daughters is so crystal clear they often put tears in my eyes. Can't wait to figure out how to edit them properly.

[tim11]

I'm getting a D90 soon too. The agony now is that whether I should also get the 18-105VR kit lens with it now that I have a chance to get it cheap for around $300 if I buy with the body.

[K1W1]

If you are keeping the two Sigmas I would just buy the D90 body.

[r3g]

cost.



imho, forget them both. the 35/1.8 will blow them both out of the water. with the exception of UWA, dont touch anything but nikkors from now on, you;re going to places with your photography that shouldnt have comprimise. (sorry to anyone else who rates 3rd party).

50/1.4G
85/1.8 (if you're prepared to stop down)
105VR
80-200/2.8 for portrait head shots.



Justify using the 50mm AND 35mm. I know the 35 has some distortion but its not that bad and the extra space to frame with is kinda nice especially in tight places. Are you suggesting I stop using the 35mm in favor of the 50?

I can dig the 85mm.

105VR...best for portraits no? are you suggesting i get rid of my 50-150 2.8?
same question with the 80-200. i dont really need that extra reach but if the IQ is kicks the Sigma's butt that must I feel like I'd only need one of those lenses not both. Correct me on this one plz


I guess as far as replacing the kitlens I dont have to have f/2.8 seeing as Ill be stopping down when using strobes anyway so I guess IQ is more important.

Man I need to do some research.. These are all lenses I hear about all the time but never bothered to look at them much seeing as I had a D40. I'm sure glad I didnt sell my 55-200mm VR now though or shed be stuck without a lens. Cant have my kitlens till I replace it lol.



Yes what Rooz said. People look at it and say that they can buy a 18-200 for more or less the same money.

At that price and focal length one would think the IQ would be much better than the 18-200mm.

[XaiLo]

Cybersyncs can sync up to 1/4000 also. Its the camera's sync speed thats too slow. If they put a faster syncing shutter on a (at the time) $600 camera why wouldnt they on the next model up?

OK r3g I'm a little confused, are you saying the camera will not allow you to shoot above 1/250 or it will not sync above 1/250... the sync speed for the D90 is 1/200 .

As for faster syncing on higher end cameras, I'm not well versed enough in the subject matter to explain it succinctly, but it boils down to design limitations and how the sensor captures the image.



Yes what Rooz said. People look at it and say that they can buy a 18-200 for more or less the same money.

From what I've seen the 16-85 slams the 18-200. No contest, still don't like the price but it deserves serious consideration.

[r3g]

OK r3g I'm a little confused, are you saying the camera will not allow you to shoot above 1/250 or it will not sync above 1/250... the sync speed for the D90 is 1/200 .




No no no I was saying it wont sync past 1/200 lol(which i knew before getting it). Its gonna take some getting used to because I was syncing at 1/1250 on the D40


As far the 16-85mm.. I was reading some reviews and the only cons I've seen is price. TBH I dont like the price either but if thats what I have to pay for a good mid range zoom than so be it.

[XaiLo]

Gotcha now, I'd say the 16-85mm is worth the investment!

[r3g]

Hmm.. If theres no other takers I guess thats what I'll be going for. I read its really really sharp and thats good cuz this 35mm has opened my eyes to what sharp glass does for you and I just want MORE lol

[Cyberwlf]

Rooz's 50mm 1.4G shots bring water to my eyes, granted there's a lot of talent in what he does, but holy sh't the lenses amazing sharpness never fails to impress me. I was turned off the 35mm temporarily due to CA issues and the fact they aren't fixable but after seeing r3g's shots im converted again. That said id love to see a shoot out of the 50mm 1.4G vs 35mm 1.8, with the same shots and relative same distance to objects.

[r3g]

Glad I could be of some assistance. Not gonna lie after seeing this test shots I took and posted I was beginning to wonder if this was really a lens I wanted to use but having put it into some real action that feeling is long gone.

[swpars]

Your D40 images are amazing, and I look forward to seeing your D90 pushed to its photographic limits.

I really like the D80/90 body with all the easily accessible button-based controls. Not to mention that the extra resolution is nice to have over the D40 at times.

[r3g]

Life just got a little sweeter.. Instead of dropping big bucks for a MB-D80 vertical grip I picked up a knockoff ebay version for under 50 bucks + a non oem battery. Has the same buttons as the MB and it works like a charm. I love ebay.. wait.. i love saving money :D

[e_dawg]

Its the camera's sync speed thats too slow. If they put a faster syncing shutter on a (at the time) $600 camera why wouldnt they on the next model up?

It's because the D40 had a slow mechanical shutter that couldn't go above a certain speed -- something like 1/90 of a second. It used electronic gating of the sensor to basically cut-off the signal whenever a faster shutter speed was desired -- just like they do on a P&S camera. Because it basically uses an electronic shutter you can sync it much faster than you can a mechanical shutter.

Higher end cameras have better mechanical shutters in them, and so don't require electronic gating control.

[tim11]

Getting a new D90 isn't deserving a new thread so I just put my comment here. :D

D90 and D80:
Cleaner image quality is the first thing I observe.
Higher resolution LCD.
3D tracking AF.
LV with Face detection - I'm sure I will find this handy for tripod group shots in weddings, official functions; etc.
Does anyone knows if D90 corrects PP like D300? If no one has the answer yet I will test this later when I have the chance.
Very sensitive selector button *this can be a pain because with a little touch it moves the focus point. :(
Video? Stuff the video - who needs video in a DSLR, I already have a Panasonic camcorder

I like this D90.

[r3g]

Welcome to the club :)

[jcon]

Life just got a little sweeter.. Instead of dropping big bucks for a MB-D80 vertical grip I picked up a knockoff ebay version for under 50 bucks + a non oem battery. Has the same buttons as the MB and it works like a charm. I love ebay.. wait.. i love saving money :D


r3g, im curious, is it still working well? I ask because I knew some people that bought a knockoff MB-D200 and it was crap. Also the same thing with the battery, any issues with that yet? If not congrats on the nice catch!

[r3g]

Works very well. The batteries can slip out of the latch that holds it down on the spring sometimes but even when they do that they still power the camera so I guess its no biggy. Small price to pay for saving a couple hundred dollars. :)