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jarl
01-10-2009, 09:32 AM
I have a panasonic LZ10, and absolutely love it. However, I can't help but get the feeling I'm doing something wrong- whilst some images come out looking pretty good (here (http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj205/Enemyboat/p1000291797x586eq3.jpg?t=1230666149), here (http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp78/Jarl/Photography/Winter/P1010132_912x684.jpg) and here (http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp78/Jarl/Photography/Night/P1010105_1021x766.jpg)), others come out looking fairly poor- most notably, this one (http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp78/Jarl/Photography/P1010136_912x684.jpg), which I'm really disappointed in because it would have been a really good photo if it hadn't screwed up. (1:1 view here (http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp78/Jarl/Photography/P1010136.jpg)). What causes the differences? They're all iso 100, though exposure time varies wildly for them, as does aperture. Please don't say "buy a more expensive camera", I'm a student and that's not an option :o

Thanks in advance for any help :)

SpecialK
01-10-2009, 10:18 AM
I think you were using the digital zoom in the "poor" one. That only magnifies the pixels, so the image will be grainy, low contrast, and with low details.

DonSchap
01-10-2009, 10:30 AM
You know ... you can get a SONY DSLR α100 for around $300, now ... and believe me, that will change the way you do everything, from this point.

You could also opt to become a photography student ... and the college sometimes allows you to sign out DSLRs for the semester. I know our local Community College does. I was there when they bought them. ;)

Phill D
01-10-2009, 01:18 PM
Not sure how you could tell that one was digi zoom SpecialK but if it was you are probably correct with the problem, maybe a bit of camera shake too. I only used the digi zoom of my FZ20 a few of times when I was really desperate to get closer. Generally the shots came out like your last one jarl. I don't think you are doing things wrong you are probably just finding the limits of the camera.

jarl
01-10-2009, 02:44 PM
I think you were using the digital zoom in the "poor" one. That only magnifies the pixels, so the image will be grainy, low contrast, and with low details.

No, though I had cranked up the optical zoom a bit. I agree that it looks like digital zoom, though I don't use it; I figure I my 2ghz processor can blow up pictures better than the camera can. I have a sneaking suspicion it might have been a bit of camera shake, after all, I'd just got off my bike myself, and it was pretty cold! I'll make sure to take a couple more seconds to steady it in future, especially at higher zooms. Either that or I could take 30 seconds and use my tripod :rolleyes:

Any other suggestions welcome, but I'll see how it goes when I next take a few pictures (with the tripod!). Thanks :)

raven15
01-10-2009, 08:43 PM
No, it's not digital zoom or motion blur causing that. It looks like a good old fashion case of missed focus. Motion blur would be biased toward a certain direction. Point and shoot cameras don't have the greatest autofocus in my experience, but the depth of field is so large you usually don't notice. This just happened to be worse than normal. It does happen, the best solution is to take two pictures, pointing the camera at slightly different places to re-trigger the autofocus.

At least, that is my take on things.

Phill D
01-11-2009, 12:49 AM
Good thought raven I got used to doing that too with my P&S as occasionally with two almost identical shots one would be slightly out of focus & one would be sharp. In fact I still do it with my dslr sometimes. Old habits die hard I guess.

Beowulff
01-11-2009, 05:10 AM
I'm with Raven on this one... missed focus.

EXIF:
ISO=100
FL=150mm
1/160sec
IS=on mode1

You might've missed the half shutter hold?

Cheers :)

jarl
01-11-2009, 10:17 AM
I was taking a string of photo's there... I have about 3 others which came out significantly sharper, though none of them are positioned as well as that one... it was also taken just after zooming in, which probably didn't help much.

Again, thanks for all your help :)

GotToyota?
01-11-2009, 10:57 PM
You know ... you can get a SONY DSLR α100 for around $300, now ... and believe me, that will change the way you do everything, from this point.


True story, I paid $400 for a brand new A100 with kit lens from Adorama a few weeks ago and haven't looked back since. :)

-Matt