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fdexclpl
06-26-2009, 01:36 PM
i learned something important from one of the videos i watched of a pro talking about digital images......i believe he said that you have to pick the best 10 keepers out of 200 that you take.

and i have recently started following that advice.....lol so i don't worry about the non keepers anymore.

i used to always think i sucked cause i only got about 5-10% keepers that i would consider keeping but now after i hear it from a pro's mouth i don't feel bad anymore.

i had one of these moments when i heard that....
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3045/3577182333_3f1bb2f59a.jpg?v=0

and everything began to become clear to me!

but that doesn't stop me from trying to salvage a crappy pic now and then....LOL!That's what I think too. I try really hard to take good pictures but it seems that I miss something in a lot of shots. Wrong ISO, slow shutter, spot metering instead of matrix, wrong angle, etc. I was really starting to wonder if I was ever going to be any good.

Elisha
06-26-2009, 01:48 PM
That's what I think too. I try really hard to take good pictures but it seems that I miss something in a lot of shots. Wrong ISO, slow shutter, spot metering instead of matrix, wrong angle, etc. I was really starting to wonder if I was ever going to be any good.

yeah the feeling sucks. now if i get 10% i'm happy!
i've got about 1k shots of my son and so far only processed less than 100 that i would consider keeping!

i think we are kinda stuck in the film mentality that we are wasting our roll of 24 or 36 and only getting a few keepers. digital only limits us to the size of our memory card so we tend to be trigger happy taking way more than film rolls but yet feel we need a good keeper rate as if we are only limited to 24 or 36 pics in a roll.

shoeytennis
06-26-2009, 08:48 PM
yeah the feeling sucks. now if i get 10% i'm happy!
i've got about 1k shots of my son and so far only processed less than 100 that i would consider keeping!

i think we are kinda stuck in the film mentality that we are wasting our roll of 24 or 36 and only getting a few keepers. digital only limits us to the size of our memory card so we tend to be trigger happy taking way more than film rolls but yet feel we need a good keeper rate as if we are only limited to 24 or 36 pics in a roll.

Ballen, I think we should post some of worst pics we have ever taken haha.
I can start!

Elisha
06-26-2009, 09:37 PM
after you!

fdexclpl
06-27-2009, 05:29 AM
Ballen, I think we should post some of worst pics we have ever taken haha.
I can start!That would be a huge thread. I think it should be limited to 10 pics per person per day.:D

Elisha
06-27-2009, 07:58 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3601/3655738113_4193c00c7c.jpg?v=0

DWessel
06-27-2009, 02:43 PM
Before I get to my post, Elisha did you HDR the Donkey?

Now to something you don't see everyday ....

47275
A900 w/ Tamron 70-200mm @ 200mm, f/5.6, 1/1250 sec, ISO 160, RAW

and, cropped:
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Will it crash into the bridge :eek:? Or, will it simply fly under???

Elisha
06-27-2009, 03:46 PM
nope no HDR. i exposed for the sky. it is quite a significant crop too as the donkey was quite far away.

is that a military chopper or a coast guard chopper?

DWessel
06-27-2009, 07:29 PM
is that a military chopper or a coast guard chopper?

The photo was taken from Treasure Island which has a Navy and Coast Guard base. It's likely Navy because the Coast Guard helicopters are red and white.

So, I'm going to borrow one more of Don's daily photo posts and ...

Here's a composit stitched before/after photo:
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fdexclpl
06-27-2009, 07:30 PM
I didn't even notice the bee in flight until I looked at my shots at home. These bees are tiny about a quarter of an inch or so.
a700 Tamron 17-50@50mm f/6.3 1/1000 ISO-200
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3259/3666952634_d6b263ef95_b.jpg

shoeytennis
06-27-2009, 08:30 PM
Ill leave it to you guys to guess.
0 editing
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3691/adsc02699.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/adsc02699.jpg/)

DWessel
06-27-2009, 08:31 PM
I didn't even notice the bee in flight until I looked at my shots at home. These bees are tiny about a quarter of an inch or so.
a700 Tamron 17-50@50mm f/6.3 1/1000 ISO-200
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3259/3666952634_d6b263ef95_b.jpg

I love how the guy in flight appears to be simply floating.

sparkie1263
06-28-2009, 05:58 AM
Ill leave it to you guys to guess.
0 editing
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3691/adsc02699.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/adsc02699.jpg/)


Great image. What filter did you use. I like the POV and the star effect from the sun. Great job

Frank

fdexclpl
06-28-2009, 10:54 AM
Sorry, I had to use the flash.
A700 Minolta BBC@300mm f/7.1 1/125 ISO-200
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3664/3668845300_227465d7e3_b.jpg

Elisha
06-28-2009, 11:12 AM
nice train track image!

was the snake in your garden?
what kind is it?

Elisha
06-28-2009, 11:43 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3654/3656545694_3343623079_b.jpg

sparkie1263
06-28-2009, 11:50 AM
The crow was being chased by this red winged blackbird. Not the best shot but I like the look of it.

Frank


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2586/3665172451_b453103b47.jpg

fdexclpl
06-28-2009, 12:37 PM
nice train track image!

was the snake in your garden?
what kind is it?It is a Garter snake. Completely harmless and pretty common around here. I took this picture on one of the hiking trails around where I live.

Peekayoh
06-28-2009, 02:12 PM
I see some good images with old Minolta glass.
Nice Chipmunk, fdexclpl, sharp where it counts.
Nice Black & White, Elisha.

Elisha, you raise a good point regarding the percentage of keepers you can expect; also how digital has changed the perception of how many times you can afford to release the shutter. I'm still old school on this one; I think it better to devote some time to planning the shot and release once rather than clacking away hoping for the best. I wonder how many secondhand DSLR's come with a knackered shutter.

Peekayoh
06-28-2009, 02:44 PM
Composition is key. Go back and shoot again when the Sun is over the track vanishing point.

Whoops! That sounds more like an order than a suggestion, sorry.

Peekayoh
06-28-2009, 03:51 PM
This little gem popped up in my garden, presumably courtesy of a passing avian; but not from Alaska methinks.


FORGET-ME-NOT

47305

Camera: Sony DSLR-A700
Lens: Minolta MD Macro Rokkor 100mm f4
Exposure: 1/500th at f8 -2.7EV
Focal Length: 100mm (150mm equivelent)
ISO Speed: 200
Date: 12th April 2009

shoeytennis
06-28-2009, 04:44 PM
Great image. What filter did you use. I like the POV and the star effect from the sun. Great job

Frank

No filter, just decided to shoot and compose an image directly in the sun and thats what came out. i really like for no photoediting.

shoeytennis
06-28-2009, 07:53 PM
the best shots are the ones you werent even trying to take

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8679/adsc02667.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/adsc02667.jpg/)

fdexclpl
06-29-2009, 06:55 PM
Sony a700 Tamron 17-50@50mm f/4 1/1250 ISO-200
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3352/3673047927_14da09e730_b.jpg

seanhoxx
06-29-2009, 10:17 PM
Some great stuff showing up guys, try and zip through it when I can, like looking at the shots, maybe I will try and take something to post soon.

shoeytennis
06-30-2009, 08:20 AM
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2498/adsc02652.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/i/adsc02652.jpg/)

dr4gon
06-30-2009, 09:24 AM
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2498/adsc02652.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/i/adsc02652.jpg/)

Cool perspective, I was trying to think up ways to make these things interesting rather than being an eye sore.

bigw00dy
06-30-2009, 12:29 PM
Great Shot!!

fdexclpl
06-30-2009, 04:34 PM
I love strawberries!

a700 Tamron 17-50@35mm f/4.5 1/640 ISO-200
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2676/3676800952_cd58b85434_b.jpg

DWessel
06-30-2009, 10:07 PM
47357
α 900 w/ Tamron 70-200mm
@ 200mm, f/9, 1/250, ISO 500, spot metering

I originally set out to just take some sky pictures for potential composition photo backgrounds (see my thread June Gloom and Don's suggestion), and ended up with much more.

DWessel
06-30-2009, 10:11 PM
This little gem popped up in my garden, presumably courtesy of a passing avian; but not from Alaska methinks.


FORGET-ME-NOT

47305

Camera: Sony DSLR-A700
Lens: Minolta MD Macro Rokkor 100mm f4
Exposure: 1/500th at f8 -2.7EV
Focal Length: 100mm (150mm equivelent)
ISO Speed: 200
Date: 12th April 2009

Peek:

I have to say that is a really :cool: shot. Although, the colors initially made me think it was another one of your macros of cake toppings.

Peekayoh
07-01-2009, 03:52 PM
Thanks, I think!

DWessel
07-01-2009, 06:38 PM
A slightly different look from yesterday's post:
47372
α 900 w/ Tamron 70-200 mm
200mm @ f/9, 1/250, ISO-320

joenmell
07-02-2009, 10:29 AM
I had the pleasure of going to Hawaii last week. Mountains of photos of Diamond Head and Waikiki Beach, but, This is my favorite. This is flying over the Arizona Memorial. Makes me proud to be an American.
A200 Manual Mode Tamron DiII @ 70MM
F/11 1/200sec Pattern Metering

joenmell
07-02-2009, 10:44 AM
Since everyone loves the flowers! This was up in a tree, had to use the zoom a little and just did a crop and a "Microsoft" auto correct. Nothing major

bigw00dy
07-02-2009, 12:08 PM
Great shots Joe!

Elisha
07-02-2009, 04:33 PM
A slightly different look from yesterday's post:
47372
α 900 w/ Tamron 70-200 mm
200mm @ f/9, 1/250, ISO-320

very nice!

fdexclpl
07-02-2009, 05:31 PM
I had the pleasure of going to Hawaii last week. Mountains of photos of Diamond Head and Waikiki Beach, but, This is my favorite. This is flying over the Arizona Memorial. Makes me proud to be an American.
A200 Manual Mode Tamron DiII @ 70MM
F/11 1/200sec Pattern MeteringGreat capture! It's not the typical picture of the flag.
Isn't Hawaii beautiful?

dr4gon
07-04-2009, 10:49 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2514/3686551122_d51ce11aa0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3686551122/)

From last night. Happy 4th!

dr4gon
07-04-2009, 10:32 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2582/3688522369_bf602aa3ba_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3688522369/)

fdexclpl
07-04-2009, 10:53 PM
a700 Tamron 17-50@26mm f/11 10 sec ISO-200
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2507/3688561595_49ee5002f5_b.jpg

Elisha
07-05-2009, 07:22 AM
not pleased about the lack of privacy!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3630/3690283356_9e56079304_b.jpg

fdexclpl
07-05-2009, 08:19 PM
Mark is obviously not very bright.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2593/3692729272_c75a560593_b.jpg

DWessel
07-05-2009, 10:53 PM
Mark is obviously not very bright.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2593/3692729272_c75a560593_b.jpg

Maybe Mark wasn't bright enough to "here" the train coming ;)

saf
07-06-2009, 05:51 AM
A slightly different look from yesterday's post:
47372
α 900 w/ Tamron 70-200 mm
200mm @ f/9, 1/250, ISO-320

I love this shot, well done DWessel !!

Peekayoh
07-06-2009, 01:38 PM
Hear, hear!!

fdexclpl
07-06-2009, 07:49 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3626/3692715152_ab9de0dd3e_b.jpg

DWessel
07-07-2009, 08:29 AM
Walking home last night from the local dog park, this little guy was on the ground and barely escaped the jaws of my dog. It flew (barely) the short distance to the crotch of this oak tree.
47482
a900 w/ Tamron 70-200
@180 mm, f/3.5, 1/40sec, ISO-800

Since f/2.8 was not giving enough DOF, I had to compromise by uping the ISO level.

sparkie1263
07-07-2009, 06:36 PM
Here is a yellow dragon

Frank


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2513/3699785600_6b50706f3b.jpg

fdexclpl
07-07-2009, 07:01 PM
a700 Minolta 28-135@28mm f/5.6 1/2000 ISO-400
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2457/3699055137_41eb19d4cf_b.jpg

DWessel
07-07-2009, 10:01 PM
Awesom yellow dragonfly.

Here's my latest. Crepe Myrtle ...
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A900 w/ Tamron 70-200, M setting, 200mm, f/32, 1/15 sec, ISO-100, +.3 step.

As explained in Don's latest thread on inspiration and working at photography, I was taking clear close-ups when the wind picked up. Rather than getting frustrated and packing it in, I switched gears to a slow shutter speed to emphasize the movement.

dr4gon
07-08-2009, 10:28 AM
Yeah, best not to fight the wind!


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2637/3699592419_ba2bd4df49_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3699592419/)

sparkie1263
07-08-2009, 08:19 PM
I found this nest outside my friends house.The images are a little soft.

Frank


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2422/3703163634_b82d6b401f.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2631/3702355835_803e4d95e0.jpg

bigw00dy
07-08-2009, 08:42 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3219/3702885052_819a0cf8af.jpg
Exposure: 0.008 sec (1/125)
Aperture: f/10.0
Focal Length: 90 mm
ISO Speed: 100
Trying to identify this little guy. About the size of a quarter.

shoeytennis
07-08-2009, 09:26 PM
Been busy lately so heres my contribution
girlfriend in a cart
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2033/adsc02749.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/i/adsc02749.jpg/)

sparkie1263
07-09-2009, 07:28 PM
I took these in my moms yard in Florida.

Frank

Anole lizard

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2493/3705156529_a18a2759c2.jpg

dr4gon
07-10-2009, 11:54 AM
Nice detail there Frank!


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3469/3706672517_23883c9901_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3706672517/)

Must view the original at flickr! When I took it, it was like 3 random shots, not meant as a panorama. I just stitched it together in Photoshop to test out my new $GB of RAM *8gb total now) and liked how it turned out.

Peekayoh
07-10-2009, 01:37 PM
Second that, Frank.

dr4gon, looks great but seems compressed in the vertical.

bigw00dy
07-10-2009, 04:28 PM
Hard to follow up Frank & dr4gon's...Both were real eye grabbers!!!

Here is a shot from our recent family trip to Wildwood, NJ from atop the ferris wheel
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2432/3698669523_6930dfc233_b.jpg

More of the Wildwood shots @ my flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigw00dy/)

dr4gon
07-10-2009, 04:54 PM
Second that, Frank.

dr4gon, looks great but seems compressed in the vertical.

Compressed in the vertical? I know the ends are severely stretched because I didn't take it as a pano, but it ended up nice and W-I-D-E!



Hard to follow up Frank & dr4gon's...Both were real eye grabbers!!!

Here is a shot from our recent family trip to Wildwood, NJ from atop the ferris wheel
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2432/3698669523_6930dfc233_b.jpg

More of the Wildwood shots @ my flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigw00dy/)

Looks good, seems to lack a bit of contrast and color which can both be easily added :).

sparkie1263
07-11-2009, 06:26 AM
Hard to follow up Frank & dr4gon's...Both were real eye grabbers!!!

Here is a shot from our recent family trip to Wildwood, NJ from atop the ferris wheel
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2432/3698669523_6930dfc233_b.jpg

More of the Wildwood shots @ my flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigw00dy/)

You should try the tilt shift effect on that image. It works good on images shot from above. Here is the link if you want to try it
http://www.tutorialkit.com/tutorials/Photoshop-tutorial-how-to-fake-tilt-shift-photography-03530.html

Here is one I did I poster this a while back.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/TrainStationTiltShift.jpg

Nice pano Dr4gon


Frank

Aryajaide
07-11-2009, 09:20 AM
Took these during my first few weeks of learning.

Criticisms very welcome.... but be honest, please.

Only way to learn....

DonSchap
07-11-2009, 09:46 AM
That last one needs the horizin straightened ... kind of looks "forced", this way. PP to the rescue! ;)

Elisha
07-11-2009, 09:32 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/_DSC2496.jpg

Elisha
07-11-2009, 10:01 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/_DSC2167.jpg

Peekayoh
07-12-2009, 03:25 AM
Took these during my first few weeks of learning.

Criticisms very welcome.... but be honest, please.

Only way to learn....

1. Love the colour.
2. Compositionaly, I'd like to see the Winding Rig much bigger in the frame.
3. Is it me or is it a bit fuzzy?

DWessel
07-12-2009, 10:17 AM
Took these during my first few weeks of learning.

Criticisms very welcome.... but be honest, please.

Only way to learn....

1. Great composition, color, balance and side lighting.

2. Post above suggested a crop. Here's a sample ... you decide.
47541
Otherwise, in the original, I would have placed the structure more in line with the 2/3's rule (in your case a bit more to the left of the frame). The land to sky transition fits the 2/3's rule with the land taking about 1/3 of the lower portion of the frame, the intensity of the sunset the next 1/3 and the cooler sky the final 1/3.

3. The image is a bit soft, but I don't know as it detracts. The composition has a great line of sight, drawing the eye inward.

On your posts, you should include the data of the image, Body/lens combination, focal length (50mm, 200mm, etc.), aperature setting, shutter speed, etc. All you need to do is right click your original image, select properties and select the details tab. That will give everyone a better idea of your choices (presuming you weren't letting the camera make all the decisions through auto mode). You can shoot the same image with a "correct exposure" but with different aperature/shutter speed/ISO combination that will produce very different results.

And, if you haven't been shooting much and want to have better control over your decisions before the shutter button is pressed, I highly recommend Bryan Peterson's "Understanding Exposure." You can find it on Amazon for about $17. It's an easy read and provides some great examples. It helped me move from Auto, Aperature priority, Shutter priority settings to going full manual and being comfortable in doing so.

sparkie1263
07-12-2009, 05:32 PM
Here is a wasp from yesterday.

Frank

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2530/3714235512_e2588f3530.jpg

Ldorey
07-12-2009, 06:44 PM
Splash Down
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu83/ljd1019/brodypool2.jpg

A300
50 mm
f/4
iso 100

Peekayoh
07-13-2009, 02:11 AM
Here is a wasp from yesterday.

Sinister looking creature.

sparkie1263
07-13-2009, 09:11 AM
Here is the Tilt Shift of Bigw00dy's Wildwood image.

Frank

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2657/3716400503_7b429e10c9.jpg


PS Hope you don't mind the edit. I will take it down if you like.

bigw00dy
07-13-2009, 01:19 PM
Not at all Frank. Looks Awesome!!!
I just saw it on your Flickr.

Peekayoh
07-13-2009, 02:47 PM
Frank, can't remember whether that was a filter or an action.

Elisha
07-13-2009, 02:56 PM
that T&S effect looks awesome.

sparkie1263
07-13-2009, 07:30 PM
It is applied in steps. Here is the link of how it is done. Glad you like it.

Frank

http://www.tutorialkit.com/tutorials/Photoshop-tutorial-how-to-fake-tilt-shift-photography-03530.html

This site dose it for you online
http://tiltshiftmaker.com/

shoeytennis
07-13-2009, 08:21 PM
sorry heres two photos
Starting to heart night time
It was almost pitch black out and one car drove by at the perfect time with a 5 second exsposure.
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/2470/adsc02837.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/adsc02837.jpg/)

And cars
buddy got hit by a semi
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3867/adsc02812.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/adsc02812.jpg/)

DWessel
07-13-2009, 08:55 PM
Working on zooming while shutter open at night.
47553
A900 w/Tamron 70-200 @ Manual, 160mm, f/14, 10 sec., ISO-200

sparkie1263
07-14-2009, 06:57 PM
dragonflies mating

Frank

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3523/3720752107_03714d15bb.jpg

fdexclpl
07-14-2009, 07:29 PM
Here's one I took a couple of weekends ago. My daughter was feeding the ducks and I snapped a few shots. It's not a great image but I like the sharpness and the water dripping from her beak.

Sony a700 Minolta 28-135@135mm f/8 1/320 ISO-400
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2431/3721525115_c4c23d411e_b.jpg

Bup
07-15-2009, 09:01 AM
For the maggots,

Elisha
07-16-2009, 12:36 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/_DSC2248.jpg

Bup
07-16-2009, 07:41 AM
And because it's a new day here:
A beetle that somewhat reminds me of a tick.

trooplewis
07-16-2009, 02:50 PM
I'd love to post some of these on one of the three POTD sites I run. For some reason I do not seem to get many Sony users submitting photos to the sites. They are boating POTD, USApotd and potdgroup for images that do not fit into the boating or patriotic-themed areas. You can get to all three sites through the potdgroup.com web page

Be sure to list name, location and which camera you used so that I can list copyright to you and give you credit for the image. Images have to be at least 1024 pixels on the long side for me to use them.

Many thanks
Bill

dr4gon
07-16-2009, 03:24 PM
I'd love to post some of these on one of the three POTD sites I run. For some reason I do not seem to get many Sony users submitting photos to the sites. They are boating POTD, USApotd and potdgroup for images that do not fit into the boating or patriotic-themed areas. You can get to all three sites through the potdgroup.com web page

Be sure to list name, location and which camera you used so that I can list copyright to you and give you credit for the image. Images have to be at least 1024 pixels on the long side for me to use them.

Many thanks
Bill

Please, please do NOT take any of the images here without consenting the original owner. Just last week, I had to go after two people who took one of my images without asking. As far as my images go, they are copyrighted and may not be produced anywhere else without my permission. For everyone else, by default, the same goes. Ask them first. Unless they have a flickr account or a CC (Creative Commons) License, you can't go around taking pictures (even though you credit them) and posting them on your own site.

sparkie1263
07-16-2009, 08:53 PM
Here is one from today

Frank

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3459/3728426364_9e08996e52.jpg

Elisha
07-16-2009, 09:30 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/_DSC2598.jpg

dr4gon
07-16-2009, 09:37 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/_DSC2598.jpg

Looks better already!

Rooz
07-16-2009, 10:07 PM
+1
i still think you're pushing the boundaries of that sharpending tool but its MUCH improved. very nice.

Elisha
07-16-2009, 10:11 PM
+1
i still think you're pushing the boundaries of that sharpending tool but its MUCH improved. very nice.

only sharpening in this pic was USM 0.5 pixel at 100% and nothing else in CS4 ;)
i'm not sharpening in LR at all.

Peekayoh
07-17-2009, 01:37 AM
Frank, you'd best get that chair back inside before the Wife messes it! LOL

Kinda miss that "Elisha" stamp (not really). Not that I think it's oversharp but did you actually zero the default sharpening in Lightroom?

Elisha
07-17-2009, 09:12 AM
yep LR sharpening slider at 0. Then exported to PS to sharpen and convert to 8bit tiff before saving as jpeg.

sparkie1263
07-17-2009, 07:28 PM
Two Monarch Butterflies.

Frank

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2535/3730301283_89044c9693.jpg

Elisha
07-17-2009, 09:52 PM
**removed due to fixed image!

Elisha
07-18-2009, 08:01 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2666/3730572869_eedc92e082_b.jpg

Sony DSLR-A700 / (1/250) / f/2.5 / 50 mm / ISO 200

dr4gon
07-18-2009, 05:14 PM
Nice candids. The first has a bit too mush USM I think and the second's color (WB) looks a bit cold.


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3425/3733549014_26199939bf_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3733549014/)

What do you think of the crop? I found out I inadvertently cut off the left petals by a hair so I centered it, cutting off the right petals on purpose. I'd like to get some feedback on this.

Elisha
07-18-2009, 05:37 PM
nice flower!

no USM in CS4 on either shots. the first one has Clarity boosted because of a preset i used.
the images are that sharp by default. B&W tends to enhance evrything anyway!
here's the original jpeg:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/_DSC2687.jpg

DWessel
07-18-2009, 05:51 PM
Nice candids. The first has a bit too mush USM I think and the second's color (WB) looks a bit cold.

What do you think of the crop? I found out I inadvertently cut off the left petals by a hair so I centered it, cutting off the right petals on purpose. I'd like to get some feedback on this.

The centering/cut off pedals doesn't impact my view of your shot. But the spider web on the flower makes my left eye twitch.

I notice that now when I start to go for a close up of flowers or plants, that I prune the dead stuff off around my shot and check for webs.

Rooz
07-18-2009, 06:49 PM
nice flower!

no USM in CS4 on either shots. the first one has Clarity boosted because of a preset i used.
the images are that sharp by default. B&W tends to enhance evrything anyway!
here's the original jpeg:



a straight mono conversion of the jpeg is a better option imho. the sharpening/ (or clarity ??), is just too much; the edges are quite harsh, (follow the lines of her arms around the edge and you get the idea), and almost pencil like. its quite easy to pick up lens sharpness from PP and that mono shot is not evidence of a sharp lens its honestly just overprocessed bro. (imo of course).

Elisha
07-18-2009, 07:03 PM
a straight mono conversion of the jpeg is a better option imho. the sharpening/ (or clarity ??), is just too much; the edges are quite harsh, (follow the lines of her arms around the edge and you get the idea), and almost pencil like. its quite easy to pick up lens sharpness from PP and that mono shot is not evidence of a sharp lens its honestly just overprocessed bro. (imo of course).

could be. the Clarity slider seems to be increasing the contrast on the outline of the head causing it to look a little penciled against the white background.
but it does not affect the sharpness of the eyes.
i got slider happy there i admit :D

Elisha
07-18-2009, 08:06 PM
OMG i figured it out.......Rooz.....it's Sony IDC that's causing that edge sharpening look making it look penciled.
i use it as my RAW converter and then export to LR as 16bit tiff.
i opened the RAW directly in LR and ACR and the penciled lines aren't there.

here's a screenshot of how IDC messes up the image with 0 sharpening. look at the arms and ears....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/_DSC2687_.jpg

damn IDC has been making me look bad all along....

Elisha
07-18-2009, 08:33 PM
voila....no penciled edges:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2043/3733308215_de3cc26f98_b.jpg

Rooz
07-18-2009, 09:05 PM
much better elisha. :)

Elisha
07-18-2009, 09:32 PM
thanks for pointing it out Rooz. it would have taken me lots longer to figure out the issue if you guys stopped pointing it out!

damn IDC :D

dr4gon
07-18-2009, 09:48 PM
omg it's got that soft baby look now (hair especially!)

Peekayoh
07-19-2009, 07:07 AM
... What do you think of the crop? I found out I inadvertently cut off the left petals by a hair so I centered it, cutting off the right petals on purpose. I'd like to get some feedback on this.

You did the best thing by trimming the other side but it's still looks like a bit of a mistake. I'd be tempted to recommend a more agressive crop which would disguise the general lack of symmetry in this particular flower; but then the middle's a bit dark.
I think I'd bin it and go back for a better shot.

Peekayoh
07-19-2009, 09:04 AM
Elisha. Again, I just thought that was your preference. I quite like High Key images but I think you've overdone it on this one.
I'd never have figured out you were exporting from IDC to Lightroom. Not sure why you'd buy Lightroom and then use IDC? A trial copy maybe.
I don't really understand your results because IDC is not considered to be all that bad.

Elisha
07-19-2009, 09:17 AM
i have full versions of Capture One Pro, LR 2.4 and PS CS4.

i use IDC cause it is simple and you get to associate PS and LR on the top bar to export.
lets say i'm just noticing it now that IDC is doing something strange to my edges. especially in bright shots like this one. i thought it had something to do with the Clarity slider but i ran it to max and it did not effect the edges or the arms at all.

and after experimenting yesterday, i also notice that it is somehow compressing and may also be reducing the resolution when exporting.

when i export from IDC to LR as a 16bit tiff and output to jpeg or export again to CS4 and output to jpeg, the file size is always less than 1.5mb.

but when i open the RAW file in LR and export to CS4 as 16bit tiff and save as jpeg, the files are around 4mb.

also i see to be losing about 20% or so of the resolution exporting from IDC.
seems like it is shrinking my 12NP file to a 9~MP file or thereabouts.

regardless i seem to be noticing more of my processing flaws on the new LCD so it's all good!


**edit**

I tested another naturally sharp image that i had once posted here that was RAW processed by IDC and tried it again with LR and no penciled outline with LR. This is the picture in question that was processed by IDC: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3404/3590416922_d57b8bee6d_b.jpg
The LR processed one does not have the penciled rim that appears on the eyes that make it look over sharpened!

Elisha
07-19-2009, 12:09 PM
almost embarrassed about this one :o
well not really :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/_DSC2620_1.jpg

overall image looks a little dull after uploading. most likely an Adobe RGB vs sRGB thing!
i can actually notice the difference now!

sparkie1263
07-19-2009, 02:11 PM
Nice POV LOL

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2550/3735460817_2557dd6ba7.jpg

Peekayoh
07-19-2009, 05:46 PM
Nice one, Frank.
and, nice ones, Elisha!

sparkie1263
07-19-2009, 05:53 PM
They certainly are :D:D:D:D

Elisha
07-19-2009, 06:07 PM
my ninja reflexes came in handy that one time!

anyway how many of you guys use the AdobeRGB colour space in your Creative Styles selection?

i use it on my a700 and set LR and CS4 both to AdobeRGB as well and when saved to jpeg the colours are consistent. but when uploaded it becomes a little dull (now that i can actually notice the colours).
I know i can counter this by saving with sRGB colourspace but the Save to Web option in CS4 is a little tedious!

has anyone printed the same image saved in AdobeRGB and sRGB and notice a difference?
if there isn't a difference, i wouldn't mind streamlining the camera and my apps to sRGB instead!

Peekayoh
07-20-2009, 11:12 AM
The AdobeRGB colourspace is larger than sRGB so the rule is to edit in AdobeRGB at 16-bit depth. For the web convert to 8-bit sRGB. I find this best done in CS3/4 with an action.

For instance I have an action for DCRP posts which ...
Converts to 8-bit
Converts to sRGB profile
Resizes to 800 wide (Scale styles//Constrain//bicubic sharper interpolation)
Applies stamp
Saves as a JPEG to my DCRP folder
Closes Image

This takes place in no time at all and is dead simple to set up.

Elisha
07-20-2009, 11:17 AM
The AdobeRGB colourspace is larger than sRGB so the rule is to edit in AdobeRGB at 16-bit depth. For the web convert to 8-bit sRGB. I find this best done in CS3/4 with an action.

For instance I have an action for DCRP posts which ...
Converts to 8-bit
Converts to sRGB profile
Resizes to 800 wide (Scale styles//Constrain//bicubic sharper interpolation)
Applies stamp
Saves as a JPEG to my DCRP folder
Closes Image

This takes place in no time at all and is dead simple to set up.

and that maintains your colour on the saved jpeg and after uploaded to the web?

Peekayoh
07-20-2009, 02:00 PM
Adobe RGB colour space has a significantly wider colour gamut than sRGB; it was designed (back in 1998) to encompass most of the colours achievable on CMYK color printers. sRGB is considered adequate for most consumer applications and having all devices use the same colour space is convenient in that an image does not need to be converted from one colour space to another before being displayed, however sRGB's limited gamut leaves out many highly saturated colours that can be reproduced by printers or film and is not ideal for high quality applications. That's why the wider gamut Adobe RGB is being built into DSLR's and is favoured by professional users.

So the answer to your question is no; converting to sRGB is a destructive process which chucks away some colour information just like using jpeg compression chucks away your pixels.

Web browsers use sRGB and don't understand AdobeRGB, so unless you post in sRGB the browser will render the colour in unexpected ways.

Elisha
07-20-2009, 02:10 PM
thanks Peek. seems like the only colour space aware browser is Safari and Firefox has a plug-in to enable it.

Peekayoh
07-20-2009, 02:21 PM
Yeh! I don't think there'll be any rush to change the status quo.

sparkie1263
07-20-2009, 02:25 PM
I just did what this said but I don't know why.LOL


Enabling Color Management in Firefox version 3

By default, color management is disabled in Firefox 3. To enable it, just enter about:config in the address bar, promise to be careful to the popping window and type “color_management” in the filter. Change gfx.color_management.enabled to true. This means that Firefox will honor the profiles embedded to the images it displays.

The next thing you can do is point gfx.color_management.display_profile to your monitor ICC profile (if you have one available). This way, Firefox will optimize its color rendition for your monitor.

Close and restart Firefox to have your options taken into account. You can check this link to make sure it is properly working – the mountain image at the top should look normal (and not 4 quarters with different weirdo colors) .


Frank

Peekayoh
07-20-2009, 02:27 PM
I didn't think to say, but if you are not au fait with "Actions" in photoshop, I could send you the one I recorded if it helps. PM me if you want it.

sparkie1263
07-20-2009, 02:35 PM
Thanks Peek I was going to ask and got side tracked with changing what ever I just changed in Firefox.LOL

Frank

Elisha
07-20-2009, 02:50 PM
definitely interested Peek.
Frank, i use Google Chrome nowadays. works much faster for me.

sparkie1263
07-20-2009, 02:59 PM
Does it have anything like foxmarks?? This is a great add on for when you are not on your own computer. I will check it out.

Frank

Elisha
07-20-2009, 03:00 PM
not sure. i do not have any add-ons or plug-ins installed.
even when i used FF the only thing i had installed was a skin.

Peekayoh
07-20-2009, 04:07 PM
Frank, check your private messages.

Elisha
07-20-2009, 04:20 PM
i received the email. thanks Peek.
i also re-installed Safari for windows and uploaded images look the way i edited them and not dull like on IE or Chrome. so it is indeed colour space aware even on Windows.

Peekayoh
07-20-2009, 04:40 PM
It would be nice if all browsers offered colour management but then, most users wouldn't know a colour profile if it jumped up and bit them on the bum.
Anyway, If you use the action and let PS do the sRGB conversion you should see less of a difference.

sparkie1263
07-20-2009, 04:42 PM
I hate change. I don't know if I should switch to Safari Or Chrome.

Frank

Peekayoh
07-20-2009, 05:06 PM
Frank, If it aint broke, don't fix it. Firefox is a good browser.
I happen to use Opera, mainly for the built in e-mail. Based on same code as Firefox I think.

sparkie1263
07-20-2009, 05:09 PM
I always used Netscape but my son said Firefox had more options. I think I will stay with it.

Thanks
Frank

dr4gon
07-20-2009, 05:35 PM
Firefox is the best all around IMO for customization (latest 3.5 is color managed), Safari is also color managed.

Elisha
07-20-2009, 05:39 PM
Firefox is the best all around IMO for customization (latest 3.5 is color managed), Safari is also color managed.

and so it is. just updated from 3.1 to 3.5 and i get my colours again.

i'm sure Chrome will step up soon as well.

sparkie1263
07-20-2009, 05:53 PM
Did you make that change like I did?

Frank

Elisha
07-20-2009, 05:57 PM
Did you make that change like I did?

Frank

me?
no i always had Firefox. and i have tried Safari on Windows before and uninstalled it.
but ever since i found chrome a few months back, i stuck it it primarily cause it was so fast. it's supposed to be based on the Apple Webkit similar to Safari as well.
i just checked my Firefox version and it was older since i have not used it recently and updated and now all is good.
i use Firefox primarily on my Macbook though!

sparkie1263
07-20-2009, 09:56 PM
Close up of a bee

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2674/3727623775_db0c9f83f7.jpg


Frank

dr4gon
07-21-2009, 01:59 PM
full frame for lulz!


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3487/3740908754_e913d2ff0f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3740908754/)

fdexclpl
07-21-2009, 04:28 PM
I would pay attention to this sign. They seem to mean business!
a700 Minolta BBC@75mm f4.5 1/500 ISO-200
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3486/3744374422_12317f7037_b.jpg

dr4gon
07-21-2009, 08:06 PM
That, or people just don't care and are showing their opposition!

DonSchap
07-22-2009, 12:33 PM
Summer and aging gracefully


47731
A700 w/ 17-50mm f/2.8
@ 50mm - f/7.1 - 1/1.25 sec. - ISO-200 - M - Spot Focus- Cloudy +/-0


Coming up on ten years of tolerance ... LOL ;)

dr4gon
07-22-2009, 05:01 PM
He looks very sleepy.


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2519/3747720256_7a33e6f9f5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3747720256/)

EXIF: f/3.2 | 1/400 sec. | ISO 100 | 50mm
Camera: Sony DSLR-A300
Lens: Sony 50mm f/1.4 (SAL-50F14)
Flash: Sony HVL-F58AM

Lighting setup photo on flickr.

sparkie1263
07-22-2009, 05:26 PM
He looks very sleepy.


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2519/3747720256_7a33e6f9f5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3747720256/)

EXIF: f/3.2 | 1/400 sec. | ISO 100 | 50mm
Camera: Sony DSLR-A300
Lens: Sony 50mm f/1.4 (SAL-50F14)
Flash: Sony HVL-F58AM

Lighting setup photo on flickr.

Nice image I like the DOF

Frank

fdexclpl
07-22-2009, 06:54 PM
Here is Jasper. He's hanging out in the backyard.

a700 Minolta 28-135@135mm f/4.5 1/50 ISO-200
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2671/3748028650_7813204799_b.jpg

sparkie1263
07-22-2009, 07:05 PM
Peek I used your action to re size this.

Frank


47734

B&W

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3473/3747427291_81c16c997d.jpg

Peekayoh
07-22-2009, 07:18 PM
I like the image Frank. Makes you wonder where the kid went and then you see the path to the sea.

Actions are great for saving time with those borings things you find yourself doing often. Hope it's given you ideas for other repetitive tasks.

sparkie1263
07-22-2009, 07:26 PM
I did make a few actions for borders but forgot how to do it. I still did not get the path right for it to save the image. I will work on that later.

Thanks

Frank

sparkie1263
07-22-2009, 07:27 PM
I did make a few actions for borders but forgot how to do it. I still did not get the path right for it to save the image. I will work on that later.

Thanks

Frank

DWessel
07-22-2009, 11:32 PM
While I love architecture, I'm not an overly big fan of modern architecture. I walk and drive by the Walt Disney Hall all the time and have never been inspired to photograph it. That is until this past weekend. I was on my way to photograph some of LA's other architecture when I saw this view of Disney Hall -
47738
A900 w/ Tamron 70-200mm @ 200mm, f/14, 1/60th sec, ISO 100.

I love light, and the reflections off from one part of the building to another got me.

It was 10am and even then, the brightness coming off the rest of the building was pretty incredible. I spot metered off of the sky and stepped down 1/3 stop. I probably could and should have stepped down a full stop.

Elisha
07-23-2009, 12:13 AM
Goodnight!!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/_DSC2839.jpg

Exposure Time: 0.017 s (1/60)
Aperture: f/1.4
ISO Equiv.: 400
Lens: Minolta 50mm f/1.4

Rooz
07-23-2009, 03:02 AM
I spot metered off of the sky and stepped down 1/3 stop. I probably could and should have stepped down a full stop.

the sky is a tiny proportion of the frame so not sure why you would meter off that. you should've spot metered off the reflection imo. thats a very interesting building and i love those reflections and the shapes.

DWessel
07-23-2009, 06:59 AM
the sky is a tiny proportion of the frame so not sure why you would meter off that. you should've spot metered off the reflection imo. thats a very interesting building and i love those reflections and the shapes.

Rooz, I metered off the sky because spot metering off the reflection would have over exposed the brighter areas of the building. (See Peterson, Understanding Exposure at pp. 122-124.) I could also have metered off the brightest area and hope the darker areas were not too under exposed.

Rooz
07-23-2009, 04:40 PM
Rooz, I metered off the sky because spot metering off the reflection would have over exposed the brighter areas of the building. (See Peterson, Understanding Exposure at pp. 122-124.) I could also have metered off the brightest area and hope the darker areas were not too under exposed.

the reflections are the brightest part of the image so there's no way that metering off the reflections would overexpose anything.

metering off the reflections would have given you something more like this...

jekostas
07-23-2009, 04:53 PM
Rooz, I metered off the sky because spot metering off the reflection would have over exposed the brighter areas of the building. (See Peterson, Understanding Exposure at pp. 122-124.) I could also have metered off the brightest area and hope the darker areas were not too under exposed.

Rooz got this one right - the reflections are the brightest part of the image. Underexposed areas can have the details brought out by messing with the tone curve or using the Sony software's dynamic range optimizer, but blown-out highlights are pretty well gone forever.

SONYNUT
07-23-2009, 05:20 PM
Need a lite?

http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab215/STEVESPHOTOWORLD/MATCHGIF.gif

fdexclpl
07-23-2009, 06:36 PM
Here's the puppy taking a break from playing with two six year old girls.

a700 Minolta 28-135@28mm f/5.6 1/80 ISO-200
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3420/3750220949_4e6e9094bf_b.jpg

DonSchap
07-23-2009, 07:48 PM
Looks like he's lost his focus ...

SONYNUT
07-23-2009, 07:50 PM
REMINDS ME OF A SONG!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57KDDKbfhmI

fdexclpl
07-23-2009, 07:51 PM
Puppies have focus?:D

fdexclpl
07-23-2009, 07:54 PM
REMINDS ME OF A SONG!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57KDDKbfhmI
WTF!?!?

3 cups of mustard in dog stew?

Elisha
07-24-2009, 08:22 PM
saw this couple staring into the pond and thought it looked like a painting. and it does to me anyway!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/_DSC1783.jpg

and another take on simulating HDR effect:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/_DSC1783_HDR_mild.jpg

dr4gon
07-24-2009, 11:41 PM
Half of my photos today were JPEG lol.... forgot to put it back to RAW, ugh. This was one of the JPEGs though


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2568/3753604741_d6eeec689c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3753604741/)

Peekayoh
07-25-2009, 02:09 AM
Don't you just hate it when that happens!
BTW I prefer the first image of the young couple.

sparkie1263
07-25-2009, 05:58 AM
Half of my photos today were JPEG lol.... forgot to put it back to RAW, ugh. This was one of the JPEGs though


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2568/3753604741_d6eeec689c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3753604741/)

You shoot in RAW all the time?

Frank

seanhoxx
07-25-2009, 12:43 PM
Hey guys, still alive here, getting caught up, and trying to get back in the groove of taking pictures, even bad ones!! Anyway here is one from the other night. Shooting soccer game with the Tamron 70-200, liked this shot.

Rooz
07-25-2009, 08:26 PM
stunning image sean. love the look of intensity.

Peekayoh
07-26-2009, 02:26 AM
Way to go, Sean! That crappy old Tamron finally nailed the focus.

Elisha
07-26-2009, 07:14 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/_DSC2875.jpg

DWessel
07-26-2009, 11:17 AM
47838
A900 w/ Tamron 70-200mm at 70mm f2.8, 1/4000 sec. ISO-100
Post-production PS editing.

dr4gon
07-26-2009, 03:14 PM
You shoot in RAW all the time?
Frank
Of course! 16GB never gets filled up, no matter how hard I try. I also have an 8gb backup (but I never take it with me). I was just testing JPEG on smaller sizes 2-5MP and forgot to set it back to RAW. Fortunately, my JPEGs were all 10MP (A300's max size) so it's not like I ended up with tiny images.




Hey guys, still alive here, getting caught up, and trying to get back in the groove of taking pictures, even bad ones!! Anyway here is one from the other night. Shooting soccer game with the Tamron 70-200, liked this shot.

Nice capture of the action! DOF in soccer is really nice (as opposed to basketball lol)

Elisha
07-26-2009, 10:41 PM
found an old from my old a200....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/DSC00466.jpg

Camera: Sony Alpha a200
Focal Length: 70.0mm
Exposure Time: 0.125 s (1/8)
Aperture: f/5.6
ISO Equiv.: 400
Lens: Sony 18-70mm DT

seanhoxx
07-27-2009, 07:46 PM
Wow neat images guys, love the statue in the cemetary? and Elisha great colors in the sunset and water, maybe a bit to much 'going on' in the shot but like the colors!
With the big wide open spaces of the soccer pitch the DOF can be somewhat forgiving! now I just gotta be able to do that when I want to.

seanhoxx
07-27-2009, 07:49 PM
Here is another from soccer, I thought this was a neat action shot, a major difference in hgt, between the two players.

Peekayoh
07-28-2009, 04:35 AM
Someone's about to get stomped.
Two nice captures Sean. Focus become so much easier when there's plenty of light to go round.

sparkie1263
07-28-2009, 01:36 PM
Verrazano Bridge HDR


47888

Elisha
07-28-2009, 01:59 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/_DSC2329.jpg

dr4gon
07-28-2009, 04:19 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/_DSC2329.jpg

Colors are nice, still not a fan of the vignette. I think the photo could also use a crop since there's far too much negative space on the left and bottom to keep things interesting.

seanhoxx
07-28-2009, 06:50 PM
Neat shot frank!

Peekayoh
07-29-2009, 05:20 AM
Verrazano Bridge HDR

It looks slightly surreal, in a good way.

I would like to have seen the composition more like this.

47896

sparkie1263
07-29-2009, 10:21 AM
This was taken from an army base. You were never allowed in there before. Now there isn't even a guard at the gates. I like that crop better. Here is the same image I just toned down the SAT.

Thanks
Frank

Peekayoh
07-29-2009, 11:09 AM
Hi Frank, I didn't mind the colour and I liked the way the bridge and the sky were all similar shades.
I just thought you needed to get rid of the clutter and the vertical crop to enphasise the height of the support.

DonSchap
07-29-2009, 12:14 PM
I think this crop works better ... but, hey, that's me! ;)


47901

Bup
07-29-2009, 02:45 PM
This was taken from an army base. You were never allowed in there before. Now there isn't even a guard at the gates. I like that crop better. Here is the same image I just toned down the SAT.

Thanks
Frank

Much nicer. Previous was a bit garish. Overall good shot.

Elisha
07-29-2009, 03:11 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/_DSC1167.jpg

Focal Length: 50.0mm
Exposure Time: 0.013 s (1/80)
Aperture: f/2.0
ISO Equiv.: 400

DonSchap
07-30-2009, 03:41 PM
Yep ... Pansy it is.


47932

The color is amazing ... ;)

Elisha
07-30-2009, 10:11 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/_DSC2735.jpg

Exposure Time: (1/250)
Aperture: f/2.0
ISO Equiv.: 200

SONYNUT
07-31-2009, 12:16 AM
Does this picture bug you???














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.

Peekayoh
07-31-2009, 02:33 AM
Does this picture bug you???

Might, if I knew what it was.

Peekayoh
07-31-2009, 02:45 AM
Nice pic of Logan, Elisha. Good use of off camera flash and DOF.

SONYNUT
07-31-2009, 10:03 AM
might, if i knew what it was.

house spider

Elisha
07-31-2009, 10:28 AM
Nice pic of Logan, Elisha. Good use of off camera flash and DOF.

thanks Peek.
he's actually too young to even hold up his neck on his own yet but he can do it for a few seconds at a time so i just got lucky.
i think if i can get a 3rd flash, i can position them more strategically so i won't have to move them around as often!

Peekayoh
07-31-2009, 10:56 AM
How about a cheap reflector?

Elisha
07-31-2009, 10:57 AM
then i'd need someone to hold it for me. lol!
i want to be self sufficient!

fdexclpl
07-31-2009, 06:39 PM
The weather has been crappy here. This is from a week or two ago.
a700 Sigma 28-90@90mm macro f/9 1/125 ISO-400
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3575/3776714484_fc2de38a55_b.jpg

Elisha
08-01-2009, 01:03 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/_DSC1799-1.jpg

Peekayoh
08-01-2009, 02:46 AM
The weather has been crappy here .....

Tell me about it! Here in the UK, this June was the wettest since 1888!!!:(:(

Dynamex
08-01-2009, 04:31 PM
harp i caught at a wedding.

Elisha
08-01-2009, 04:37 PM
that thing looks huge!

Peekayoh
08-01-2009, 06:46 PM
That's pretty cool, Dynamex. Try tucking that under your arm.

Elisha
08-01-2009, 10:06 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2627/3778341512_2c0aaab2e7_b.jpg

Peekayoh
08-02-2009, 02:56 AM
Soesn't work for me, Elisha. Overexposed.

fdexclpl
08-02-2009, 06:06 AM
Tell me about it! Here in the UK, this June was the wettest since 1888!!!:(:(Here it was the coldest and wettest July in 65 years!

Elisha
08-02-2009, 12:50 PM
Soesn't work for me, Elisha. Overexposed.

is it?
i made sure it wasn't by turning on the highlight clipping in LR and underexposed as necessary till it was 0EV on the brightest part.

SONYNUT
08-02-2009, 04:25 PM
Here it was the coldest and wettest July in 65 years!

YEH IT'S THAT "GLOBAL WARMING":rolleyes:

Peekayoh
08-02-2009, 04:45 PM
Sounds like global wetting to me! Check your messages Sonynut.

Peekayoh
08-02-2009, 04:48 PM
Sure Elisha, but if its already OE .... Blue channel definitely clipped.

fdexclpl
08-02-2009, 06:35 PM
YEH IT'S THAT "GLOBAL WARMING":rolleyes:
Don't get me started on that global warming, ice age, climate change load of crap!

DonSchap
08-02-2009, 07:13 PM
With a 100-degree weather worming its way through the Pacific Northwest ... I gotta tell ya ... boy howdy, Glacier National Park must be having a huge "run-off" sale!

48013

Elisha
08-02-2009, 10:06 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3460/3779483265_6aa2a58662_b.jpg

sparkie1263
08-03-2009, 01:11 PM
This is a shot of mt cousin and her daughter. I used my 50mm with pop up flash. I can't get the EXIF form flicker. I will get it from the original.
Frank

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2526/3785393167_14cc8a722f.jpg

Camera Make: SONY
Camera Model: DSLR-A100
Image Date: 2009:08:02 16:33:18
Flash Used: Yes (Manual, red eye reduction mode)
Focal Length: 50.0mm (35mm equivalent: 75mm)
Exposure Time: 0.010 s (1/100)
Aperture: f/2.8
ISO equiv: 400
White Balance: Auto
Metering Mode: Spot
Exposure: Manual
Exposure Mode: Manual

fdexclpl
08-03-2009, 07:51 PM
We went on a train ride this past Saturday. I got a few pics before we got on the train.
a700 Tamron 17-50@35mm f/2.8 1/3200 ISO-200
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3425/3786602361_26e6687cc0_b.jpg

threedognight
08-04-2009, 12:29 AM
Hi,
I am new here and this is my first post. Hope I put this in the right place.

threedognight
08-04-2009, 01:14 PM
Sony A200 18-70 lens kit F/13 70mm 1/200 ISO 100 -0.7 center weighted average

DonSchap
08-04-2009, 01:20 PM
Post-processing it a great way to hide the "kit" lens effect. Good job!

Got lemons? Lemonade for everyone!

Elisha
08-04-2009, 01:51 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3567/3785514988_962ff52ac7_b.jpg

sparkie1263
08-04-2009, 03:09 PM
I used the Verrazano Bridge image to make this planet.

Frank


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2504/3789360279_f2b2fa3dc2.jpg

Peekayoh
08-04-2009, 05:32 PM
This is a shot of mt cousin and her daughter. I used my 50mm with pop up flash.....

Flash Used: Yes (Manual, red eye reduction mode)
Focal Length: 50.0mm (35mm equivalent: 75mm)
Exposure Time: 0.010 s (1/100)
Aperture: f/2.8
ISO equiv: 400
Exposure Mode: Manual

Nice enough pic Frank, but the flash is too strong.
Does the A100 offer the choice of power levels in Manual and if so what did you use?

Peekayoh
08-04-2009, 05:58 PM
Hi,
I am new here and this is my first post. Hope I put this in the right place.

Hello, nice to welcome a new poster.
Nice use of Photoshop although I think you could do with more feathering on the cutout edges.
Couple of things on the XIF.
F13 is pushing it a bit with that lens at the 70mm end; you need to stick with f8-f11.
Using ISO200 will help in that regard. I'm pretty sure that's the base sensitivity of the sensor (anybody with an A200?).

threedognight
08-04-2009, 07:12 PM
Thank you for the compli:):)ment Don, I know how you feel about the lens kit but where I live I had no choice. This was the best camera in the store and it cost about twice as much as it would have in the States. I seem to spend my whole life in post processing.

Sparkie, I love the planet look.

Peekayoh, thank you for the warm welcome. I grabbed my camera out fast when I saw them coming down the block, no time to fool with settings. The Mother didn't seem to like my taking the baby's photo too much. I see what you mean about the feathering on the upper back of the first shot.....missed it.

fdexclpl
08-04-2009, 07:49 PM
There is a cat in our neighborhood that likes to sit on the roof of his owners porch. He seems to be surveying his kingdom.

a700 Minolta 28-135@135mm f/4.5 1/80 ISO-200
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3532/3790884656_01dc01e191_b.jpg

Elisha
08-05-2009, 01:05 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2423/3791503504_4ec0b6f04b_b.jpg

dr4gon
08-05-2009, 09:37 AM
Actually, that one is nice too! ;) That one and the one with the red staircase.

threedognight
08-05-2009, 12:12 PM
70mm 1/100 F/5.6 ISO 400

Peekayoh
08-05-2009, 12:25 PM
Elisha, that's probably my favourite from the bunch. It really shows the raw power of the falls and the little yellow ants add to that feeling.
It needs a crop off the bottom and the top and right needs some dodging. Easy if you shot RAW.

DonSchap
08-05-2009, 12:26 PM
3dog ... You're still a little too obvious with the guassian blur on this one (upper right selection is a little too loose - as you can detect the gap), but I do like what you are going for. Again, lemonade from lemons. Good job! ;)

Peekayoh
08-05-2009, 12:26 PM
70mm 1/100 F/5.6 ISO 400

OK, but is it a tad overprocessed?

threedognight
08-05-2009, 03:53 PM
Hi Don, don't exactly know what you mean by loose please help me out. Think I used the macro setting on this one. Actually the bright blur on the upper left looked worst to me.
Yes Peekayoh, I do tend to over process as if I don't, the photo's seem to come out too flat when/if I print them out so I tend to go overboard because I like the punch. Thanks for your imput guys.

Peekayoh
08-05-2009, 04:35 PM
What's your printer and what paper do you use?

DonSchap
08-05-2009, 08:54 PM
Tonight's Full Moon (8-5-2005) - shot in B/W Mode @ 500mm, around 9PM (CDT) and with a little help from PS

100% image after crop

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SONY α700 w/ TAMRON SP AF 200-500mm f/5-6.3 Di LD
@ 500mm - f/11 - 1/250 sec - ISO-200 - Spot Focus - Spot Metering - 2 sec shutter release delay - tripod


Fabulous atmospherics, tonight, for this one. Kind of wish I had the telescope. (snapping fingers)

threedognight
08-05-2009, 09:02 PM
Hi Peekayoh,
I have an old HP DeskJet 952C that still works well, but here in Mexico I cannot get the refills for anymore. Now I am reduced to getting generic refills and sometimes they work and sometimes they don't. Of the last 4 I bought, only one worked. We do not have any choice on paper here (Wal-Mart sells Kodak for 2 to 3 times the price for 25 sheets then they do in the states), so I buy my paper from either Costco (Costco brand, sort of a luster they don't carry gloss) or Sam's Club when they used to carry it (which they don't anymore) called NCR Gloss paper, which I did like a lot but can't get here anymore. Most everything is imported and we get hit with all kinds of import tax and IVA which makes these things very expensive. Being retired here I am on a limited budget so having it sent/imported here (which might get 'lost' at the border anyway) is out of the question.

Don, SUPER shot!

SONYNUT
08-05-2009, 09:08 PM
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab215/STEVESPHOTOWORLD/HASTINGS%20PICS/WFANIM.gif

dr4gon
08-05-2009, 09:45 PM
Don, the moon looks a bit over sharpened or something, there's all sorts of little white and gray/black artifacts all over it.

DonSchap
08-05-2009, 09:51 PM
Must be dust on my lens

Nah, the spots are there ... reflecting the sun ... but, yes, I pushed the sharpening up to 400% and used 'curves' creatively to render a much more dynamic look to the image. It's a like or not like image. A bit different (with added post-processing) from what I have posted in the past.

Just for an intriguing comparison ... here is a Lunar HDR I did a while back
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Then tonight's single B&W shot w/ post-processing.
48062

I have to say, that slight shadow on the right side of the first one (HDR) ... allows for better 3-D definition of the mountains and craters. The sun's reflection really had it going on, tonight.

Tonight's Moon, no enhancement (just some noise & crop)
48064

With this particular subject, color tends to blend out the contrast from definition. So ... I took it out and pushed it -> Variations on a theme.

I urge you all to get your own moon and work it up. :D

Elisha
08-05-2009, 09:56 PM
Don i think it's time you bought a new monitor!

Elisha
08-05-2009, 10:01 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3562/3793831420_6c0b3a61b8_b.jpg

Exposure: 0.003 sec (1/320)
Aperture: f/6.3
Focal Length: 28 mm
Exposure: +0.48
ISO Speed: 200
Exposure Bias: -1 EV
Lens: Minolta 28-135mm

threedognight
08-05-2009, 11:49 PM
Mostly clouds :( Sony A200 70mm F/14 1/2000 ISO 400
As close as I could get with this lens. I always have trouble with birds in flight.

DWessel
08-06-2009, 12:16 AM
Mostly clouds :( Sony A200 70mm F/14 1/2000 ISO 400
As close as I could get with this lens. I always have trouble with birds in flight.

I actually like the clouds with the touch of vibrant blue sky, but the noise is getting me. Is there a reason you were shooting at ISO 400 and not lower. Or maybe its just the down-size for web settings you chose. I would say you could keep your aperature between f8-f11 at a lower ISO and get better shots. And since you're probably panning with the bird in flight, as long as you have a shutter speed of at least 1/500 or greater you can stop the action of the bird itself.

Rooz
08-06-2009, 12:32 AM
Exposure: 0.003 sec (1/320)
Aperture: f/6.3
Focal Length: 28 mm
Exposure: +0.48
ISO Speed: 200
Exposure Bias: -1 EV
Lens: Minolta 28-135mm

fantastic image !!

Peekayoh
08-06-2009, 02:19 AM
Hi Peekayoh,
I have an old HP DeskJet 952C that still works well, but here in Mexico I cannot get the refills for anymore. Now I am reduced to getting generic refills ............

Ah OK! So you're fighting a losing battle with your printer and available supplies. The right choice of Printer, Ink and paper is crucial to a good print, I'm afraid. Can't help with that one.
I suggest you process one image for the screen and posting here and then do a second image for your printer. The first will then be available when/if you can upgrade the printing side. Maybe you could get the odd outstanding image printed by a professional.

Peekayoh
08-06-2009, 02:57 AM
Mostly clouds :( Sony A200 70mm F/14 1/2000 ISO 400
As close as I could get with this lens. I always have trouble with birds in flight.

Yes, 100% what DWessel said.

One addition, at the wider end (18-35mm) look for f5.6 for optimum centre sharpness with this lens.

As this is predominantly a picture of clouds, sharpness is of secondary important unlike the prominent noise.
Why is the noise so obvious? Did you do anything in PP which may have emphasised it?

Peekayoh
08-06-2009, 03:11 AM
Cool image Elisha.
This time you need to get out the Burn Tool to darken down the distracting right hand side. If it's a RAW capture better to layer two exposures into PS and blend.

Elisha
08-06-2009, 05:41 AM
fantastic image !!


Cool image Elisha.
This time you need to get out the Burn Tool to darken down the distracting right hand side. If it's a RAW capture better to layer two exposures into PS and blend.

Thanks guys. I like the image however I made the mistake of switching my camera to JPEG accidentally and PPing with a jpeg the way I do in LR is a nightmare.
I did the exact same thing I would do with a RAW file but toned it down a little but yet it introduced over-saturated and blotchy colours as well as some noise.

dr4gon
08-06-2009, 09:09 AM
Don, well the original looks a lot better. I think posting at 100% really does reveal the softness of the lens at that point and frankly anything at 100% really doesn't look that sharp as it's really pushing it. Take my picture of the moon from the other night, the 100% crop looks like crap.


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2669/3790871744_58edc5a906_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3790871744/)

But look what I got!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2605/3790058109_5537f0d22e_o.jpg


Don i think it's time you bought a new monitor!

shhhh, Don did just recently get a new monitor!

Elisha
08-06-2009, 09:36 AM
shhhh, Don did just recently get a new monitor!

Best thing I ever did to enhance my PP skills. that and the fact I realized IDC was screwing me all along by sharpening my edges!

sparkie1263
08-06-2009, 01:26 PM
If you look close you can see me in the bumper. LOL

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2633/3796170178_7590a2f0a7.jpg

Elisha
08-06-2009, 02:35 PM
damn those rims are soooo clean!
do you have a shot of the full car by any chance?

sparkie1263
08-06-2009, 02:38 PM
On my flickr site
Frank

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2556/3756835724_a12e93e6c1.jpg

That is a crop of this image

shoeytennis
08-06-2009, 10:07 PM
sorry been awhile posting!
Im starting a new photography experiment/website

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/8913/adsc03023.jpg (http://img30.imageshack.us/i/adsc03023.jpg/)

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9378/adsc02903.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/adsc02903.jpg/)

Elisha
08-06-2009, 10:14 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2502/3793847868_a174c4b48d_b.jpg

Camera: Sony DSLR-A700
Exposure: 0.003 sec (1/400)
Aperture: f/7.1
Focal Length: 135 mm
Exposure: +1.05
ISO Speed: 200
Exposure Bias: -2.7 EV
Lens: Minolta 28-135mm

threedognight
08-06-2009, 11:58 PM
A200 50mm F/13 (didn't see your instructions yet) 1/125 ISO-100 Pattern Landscape mode

Plane from another photo

threedognight
08-06-2009, 11:59 PM
DWessel, I was shooting at 400 because with my old camera (don't laugh) Kodak P712 I was never able to go over 100 without noise all over the place. I guess I just got ISO happy. I also always had blurred/fuzzy birds when shooting with the Kodak but it did have a great zoom, so I guess I am trying to make up for it. I will lower the ISO and will try your F/8-11 suggestion.

Peekayoh, Yes, you are right I should have one to post and one to print. I have 2 1/2 (Half is a laptop)computers full of photos and half an external hard drive. I am still hoping for the one outstanding photo though. Of course the computers are as old as my printer. Ahh, I did not realize 5.6 at the 18-35 was optimum...I will try that also. The noise I am guessing is from using the NIK tonal contrast (I tend to go over the top) I did use a noise reduction, but I guess not enough.

Thanks guys for the help.

Peekayoh
08-07-2009, 06:01 AM
Nice Ford, Frank. If I were to offer some advice ...
Getting down on one knee would have changed the angle of view such that the background distractions would have largely disappeared.
f4 would have seen a reduced DOF unless of course you were using the Kit lens in which case f5.6 would have improved the sharpness.

Peekayoh
08-07-2009, 06:03 AM
Shoeys wheels on the other hand need, well, a wheel!