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sparkie1263
02-08-2009, 08:59 AM
You sure she didn't take it.LOL Nice image.

Frank

Peekayoh
02-08-2009, 09:39 AM
Thanks, Guys.
No, Frank she didn't. You can be sure my Missus becomes "her indoors" when it's chilly.
BTW, I made a mistake in the XIF data on the last but I've corrected it now.

I got two more good images to bore you with before the Sun vanished.
Heres one of tham. A Jetliner heading for Heathrow.


SUNSET OVER A SNOWY COPHILL

Camera: Sony DSLR-A700
Lens: Minolta 24mm f2.8 with Polariser
Exposure: 1/320th sec
Aperture: f/2.8 +1EV
Focal Length: 24mm
ISO Speed: 200
Date: 06th February 2009

dr4gon
02-08-2009, 10:23 AM
Love all of those colors in the sky, like a water painting!

seanhoxx
02-08-2009, 06:30 PM
Peter great skies! very cool colors. Full moon Monday night guys, the 'snow moon' lets hope it doesn't bring more snow with it, Temps well above freezing here all weekend, if it keeps up maybe some flooding photos on the way!

Peekayoh
02-09-2009, 08:21 AM
Here's the 3rd and last Sunset shot.

SUNSET OVER A SNOWY COPHILL

Camera: Sony DSLR-A700
Lens: Minolta 24mm f2.8 with Polariser
Exposure: 1/125th sec
Aperture: f/2.8 +1EV
Focal Length: 24mm
ISO Speed: 200
Date: 06th February 2009

Elisha
02-09-2009, 05:09 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/DSC05270.jpg

Camera Model: DSLR-A300
Flash Used: No
Focal Length: 70.0mm (35mm equivalent: 105m...
Exposure Time: 0.077 s (1/13)
Aperture: f/4.0
ISO Equiv.: 400
Whitebalance: Auto
Metering Mode: spot
Exposure: aperture priority (semi-auto)

sparkie1263
02-09-2009, 05:26 PM
Lisa is 119 years old. Wow

Frank

dr4gon
02-09-2009, 05:32 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/DSC05270.jpg

Camera Model: DSLR-A300
Flash Used: No
Focal Length: 70.0mm (35mm equivalent: 105m...
Exposure Time: 0.077 s (1/13)
Aperture: f/4.0
ISO Equiv.: 400
Whitebalance: Auto
Metering Mode: spot
Exposure: aperture priority (semi-auto)

Nice shot, cake could use a bit more lighting on the cake's top (to highlight the words) since you are using more than just candle light. But, happy birthday Lisa!

millz
02-09-2009, 05:34 PM
hers one from the recent trip to disney
http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr141/mill98/DSC02298.jpg

50mm
1/25 shutter
4.5 aperture
1600 iso
handheld photo no flash

Elisha
02-09-2009, 05:55 PM
tho words show up fine when i increase the DRO effect in IDC but i decided to leave it dark :-)

sparkie1263
02-09-2009, 06:52 PM
I tried to sharpen it.Does it look better.
Frank


http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/Sony%20A100/GreatBlueHeronInFlightUSM.jpg

Peekayoh
02-10-2009, 03:23 AM
To be honest, it doesn't look a lot different to me.
This is sharper, but "sharp" can easily be overdone.
However, the problem isn't sharpness, it's that the (important) head is blending in with background; the rest is Ok like the trailing edges which have good contrast against the background.

sparkie1263
02-10-2009, 04:11 AM
I tried to fix the head after I sharpened it.
Thanks
Frank

sparkie1263
02-10-2009, 11:41 AM
Nothing special I just liked the reflection in the water.

Frank

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/Sony%20A100/ReflectionintheBay.jpg

Peekayoh
02-10-2009, 01:07 PM
I tried to fix the head after I sharpened it.
Thanks
Frank

Maybe you could "clone out" more of the snow to leave a cleaner head outine.

Peekayoh
02-10-2009, 01:13 PM
Nothing special I just liked the reflection in the water.

Great Image, Frank. Reflections are often keepers.
Although the muted greys work well, maybe you could go back on a Spring evening/morning for a more colourful one in addition.

Peekayoh
02-10-2009, 01:23 PM
The Curre Hunt passed by today exercising the Foxhounds
I just had time to grab the camera for a quick shot and got the tailend.
Didn't even have time to change lens or alter the settings

THE CURRE HUNT IN HOWICK

Camera: Sony DSLR-A700
Lens: Minolta 24mm f2.8
Exposure: 1/640th sec
Aperture: f/2.8 +1EV
Focal Length: 24mm
ISO Speed: 200
Date: 10th February 2009

Peekayoh
02-10-2009, 01:24 PM
Look at the Lampost. Now you see it, now you don't, as it were.

sparkie1263
02-10-2009, 04:12 PM
Very nice image. Is it a fox hunt?

Frank

sparkie1263
02-10-2009, 05:21 PM
I tried to darken the sky and building and I removed the shoreline.


Frank


http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/Sony%20A100/ReflectionintheBayPS.jpg

Elisha
02-10-2009, 06:34 PM
messed with the Topaz plugin in CS3 and out came this monster:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/DSC05258.jpg

Flash Used: No
Focal Length: 50.0mm (35mm equivalent: 75mm...
Exposure Time: 0.050 s (1/20)
Aperture: f/3.5
ISO Equiv.: 400
Whitebalance: Auto
Metering Mode: spot
Exposure: aperture priority (semi-auto)

sparkie1263
02-10-2009, 06:38 PM
What effect did you use? It looksgood.

Frank

Elisha
02-10-2009, 06:43 PM
What effect did you use? It looksgood.

Frank

honestly, i can't say. it was one of the drop down presets in Topaz. i'll have to fire up my XP pc and take a look when i am free. don't have the topaz plugin on my Vista partition machine or my Mac.

Peekayoh
02-11-2009, 01:20 AM
Very nice image. Is it a fox hunt?

Frank

No hunt. Just giving the hounds a run out.

Peekayoh
02-11-2009, 01:25 AM
I tried to darken the sky and building and I removed the shoreline.
Frank


It's certainly "cleaner" without the shoreline but it's too dark now and detail is gone.
You need to use layer masks to selectively change areas of the image.
Remind me of the software you are using.

sparkie1263
02-11-2009, 04:18 AM
I am using cs4. I never used layer masks yet. I guess I will do a search and read up on how to use them. I am trying to master one part of the program at a time. I use the word master very loosely. The only part I have mastered so far is running it.LOL

Thanks
Frank

dr4gon
02-11-2009, 06:34 AM
messed with the Topaz plugin in CS3 and out came this monster:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/DSC05258.jpg

Flash Used: No
Focal Length: 50.0mm (35mm equivalent: 75mm...
Exposure Time: 0.050 s (1/20)
Aperture: f/3.5
ISO Equiv.: 400
Whitebalance: Auto
Metering Mode: spot
Exposure: aperture priority (semi-auto)

Beautiful shot Elisha!

Peekayoh
02-11-2009, 09:40 AM
That's a corker, Elisha; really unusual.

Peekayoh
02-11-2009, 05:15 PM
I am using cs4. I never used layer masks yet. I guess I will do a search and read up on how to use them. I am trying to master one part of the program at a time. I use the word master very loosely. The only part I have mastered so far is running it.LOL

Thanks
Frank

Frank, tomorrow I'll try my hand at a short tutorial to show you how to darken the sky using layers.

sparkie1263
02-11-2009, 05:31 PM
Thanks Peek. I never tried layers yet. I do open a new layer before I start my editing so I can delete it if I don't like it.

Frank

Peekayoh
02-12-2009, 02:50 PM
I just thought the colours and grain in this were fantastic.
You'll never guess what it is; apart from a chunk of wood that is.

A CHUNK OF WOOD

Camera: Sony DSLR-A700
Lens: Minolta 24mm f2.8
Exposure: 1/50th sec
Aperture: f/8 -0.3EV
Focal Length: 24mm
ISO Speed: 100
Date: 03th February 2009

dr4gon
02-12-2009, 10:05 PM
And some fungus/moss or whatever that green stuff is :p

lol, nice shot of the wood pattern

Shot of my messy desk from yesterday


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3480/3273851082_f6b8ccc5cc_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3273851082/)
# Exposure: 0.067 sec (1/15) [+]
# Aperture: f/5.6 [+]
# Focal Length: 35 mm [+]
# ISO Speed: 200 [+]
# Exposure Bias: 0 EV [+]
# Flash: Off [+]

DonSchap
02-12-2009, 10:12 PM
I can tell you are an IS type of guy ... the open-sided PC is a dead give-away. :p

BobJohnson
02-13-2009, 04:15 AM
you call that messy?!

I hang my head in shame lol.

Peekayoh
02-13-2009, 09:04 AM
A WOOD SCULPTURE

Camera: Sony DSLR-A700
Lens: Minolta 24mm f2.8
Exposure: 1/50th sec
Aperture: f/8 -0.3EV
Focal Length: 24mm
ISO Speed: 100
Date: 03th February 2009

dr4gon
02-13-2009, 05:51 PM
I can tell you are an IS type of guy ... the open-sided PC is a dead give-away. :p
IS? Image stabilization? :confused:

you call that messy?!

I hang my head in shame lol.

There's a lot of boxes and other crap that you just don't see :p

dr4gon
02-13-2009, 05:54 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3313/3277051487_f72090afb6_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3277051487/)

Rooz thought it was a weird crop, but it was at 100mm and a 3 shot pano, click the picture to find out what I used ;).

Peekayoh
02-14-2009, 02:45 AM
That's right up my street, dr4gon.
What's the story with the lens, experimentation or you forgot to take a 24mm?

Peekayoh
02-14-2009, 03:15 AM
A tree with a face. Or is it just me?

THE ELVEN OAK

Camera: Sony DSLR-A700
Lens: Minolta 24mm f2.8
Exposure: 1/30th sec
Aperture: f/8 -0.7EV
Focal Length: 24mm
ISO Speed: 100
Date: 03th February 2009

dr4gon
02-14-2009, 07:45 AM
I see a finger in the middle (see the fingernail)?


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3495/3277051231_02ea0429b9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3277051231/)

DonSchap
02-14-2009, 09:07 AM
Look, deep into your soul ... okay, that's deep enough ... geesh!

Happy valentine's Day to all those in need of a little more than just a smile. :D




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sparkie1263
02-14-2009, 09:47 AM
You put your heart into everything don't you. LOL
Frank

seanhoxx
02-14-2009, 08:45 PM
I feel a little light hearted now Don! Dr4gon you know your little well not so little 8 legged friend back there can jump!

seanhoxx
02-14-2009, 08:49 PM
Portrait or sports shot? Sitting on the bench after a knee injury.

dr4gon
02-14-2009, 09:27 PM
it's only about ~1.5cm lol, but when I was little I had been bitten by brown recluse and it was painful, made me sick too.... :\ no fun from what I remember, even have a nice scar on my ankle.

But ouch, that looks painful.... the bokeh is pleasant though!

Peekayoh
02-15-2009, 12:41 AM
There are 5000 species of jumping spider. Which one is that, how big and does it bite?
Sean, don't know if it's a Sportrait, but she's definitely not happy.

Peekayoh
02-15-2009, 12:56 AM
I see the finger now, dr4gon. I like to think the artist saw the face when he sited the carving.

THE WATCHED LOVERS

Camera: Sony DSLR-A700
Lens: Minolta 24mm f2.8
Exposure: 1/80th sec
Aperture: f/8 +0.7EV
Focal Length: 24mm
ISO Speed: 100
Date: 03th February 2009

dr4gon
02-15-2009, 01:22 PM
There are 5000 species of jumping spider. Which one is that, how big and does it bite?
Sean, don't know if it's a Sportrait, but she's definitely not happy.

No idea what it is, but it's a really common spider outside.

Another macro of a weed growing in the backyard. It's a very small flower, but hey 1:1 is awesome!


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3294/3280166928_8d9a24412a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3280166928/)

Elisha
02-15-2009, 02:17 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/_DSC0774_edit.jpg

Camera Model: DSLR-A300
Flash Used: No
Focal Length: 50.0mm (35mm equivalent: 75mm...
Exposure Time: 0.067 s (1/15)
Aperture: f/2.2
ISO Equiv.: 400
Whitebalance: Auto
Metering Mode: matrix
Exposure: aperture priority (semi-auto)

seanhoxx
02-15-2009, 06:25 PM
Down Killer! Down!! LOL what a cool shot of a happy beast, How much did it cost to get his hair colored like that LOL kidding!

Elisha
02-15-2009, 09:14 PM
lol that's actually her natural colour. she is reddish/bronze at the muzzle.
the greenish at the edges however only happened after i converted to srgb and jpeg.

Peekayoh
02-16-2009, 03:52 PM
St. CADOC - TOWER

Camera: Sony DSLR-A700
Lens: Minolta 24mm f2.8
Exposure: 1/320th sec
Aperture: f/8
Focal Length: 24mm
ISO Speed: 200
Date: 03th February 2009

seanhoxx
02-16-2009, 03:59 PM
Got to love buildings in Europe, when does it date from?

Peekayoh
02-16-2009, 04:05 PM
The earliest surviving part of the church dates back to when Eastern Gwent was overrun by the Normans during the 12th Century and is thought to be the work of Hywel ap Iowerth who was also the founder of the Cistercian Abbey of Llantarnam.

Today the Church is in the Perpendicular style which was fashionable in the fifteenth century. The tower, which stands at the South West Corner of the Church, has a lower stage, which was probably part of the original Norman Church, incorporating 12th/13th Century Lancet windows. The church features a series of impressive stained glass windows depicting the life of Christ, and symbolising the faith and devotion of the saints associated with Caerleon.

dr4gon
02-16-2009, 09:36 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3356/3286224309_412eabb130_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3286224309/)

Soft bokeh! :D

Yeah, we don't have nearly as much history here :p We were the rebels!

Peekayoh
02-17-2009, 02:35 AM
Trying to measure DOF, dr4gon?

Peekayoh
02-17-2009, 03:08 AM
Here's the bigger picture.

St.CADOC CHURCH

Camera: Sony DSLR-A700
Lens: Minolta 24mm f2.8
Exposure: 1/250th
Aperture: f/5.6 +0.3EV
Focal Length: 24mm
ISO Speed: 200
Date: 03th February 2009

seanhoxx
02-17-2009, 11:12 AM
Seeing how you measure up dr4gon? nice bokehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Elisha
02-17-2009, 03:52 PM
Taken on a cold windy day trough the window:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/_DSC1267_edit.jpg

Flash Used: No
Focal Length: 300.0mm (35mm equivalent: 450...
Exposure Time: 0.017 s (1/60)
Aperture: f/7.1
ISO Equiv.: 100
Whitebalance: Auto
Metering Mode: matrix
Exposure: aperture priority (semi-auto)

dr4gon
02-18-2009, 01:37 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3437/3289812781_1a740b124d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3289812781/)

Elisha
02-18-2009, 01:49 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/DSC00522_edit.jpg

Flash Used: No
Focal Length: 70.0mm (35mm equivalent: 105m...
Exposure Time: 0.333 s (1/3)
Aperture: f/5.6
ISO Equiv.: 400
Whitebalance: Auto
Metering Mode: matrix
Exposure: program (auto)

Peekayoh
02-18-2009, 03:53 PM
Colourful, dr4gon, but what are they?

Peekayoh
02-18-2009, 03:54 PM
The Helwick LV14 was last stationed off Rhossili, on the Gower Peninsula, in South Wales. The beam from the Light tower could be seen from 25 miles away and warned sailors of the Helwick Swatch, a treacherous sand bank.

HELWICK LV14

Camera: Sony DSLR-A700
Lens: Minolta 17-35mm f2.8/4
Exposure: 1/1000th
Aperture: f/11
Focal Length: 17mm
ISO Speed: 200
Date: 11th February 2009

dr4gon
02-18-2009, 07:54 PM
expo brand dry erase white board markers

Peekayoh
02-19-2009, 02:44 AM
Ahh! I guess that's better than my shirtsleeve.
Leaning on a WB gives a nice arty effect, too

dr4gon
02-19-2009, 09:34 PM
I see we need a picture today :)


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3397/3294147468_b07bf036f7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3294147468/)

Loving this macro!

SONYNUT
02-19-2009, 11:10 PM
Frozen octopus..lol

Rooz
02-19-2009, 11:42 PM
I see we need a picture today :)




Loving this macro!

i like this shot but i think you could flip it vertically, crop it tighter with the bud on the right third of the frame and bump up the colour and contrast a little.

sparkie1263
02-20-2009, 04:05 AM
I see we need a picture today :)


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3397/3294147468_b07bf036f7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3294147468/)

Loving this macro!

Nice image
Frank

Peekayoh
02-20-2009, 11:41 AM
dr4gon loves that macro!

I think Spring is here again.

NEW BUD

Camera: Sony DSLR-A700
Lens: Minolta MD MACRO 50mm f3.5
Exposure: 1/50th
Aperture: f/5.6 -2EV
Focal Length: 50mm
ISO Speed: 200
Date: 20th February 2009

Elisha
02-20-2009, 11:43 AM
i started snowing here again 2 days ago when it almost felt like spring again. looks like another month for us.

Peekayoh
02-20-2009, 11:45 AM
Don't envy you the snow Elisha. Here's a crop of the last!

DonSchap
02-20-2009, 08:50 PM
I thought I'd toss in this shot from my old Minolta Maxxum 9000 35mm-film SLR w/ the Minolta 50mm f/1.4 lens, using ASA-400 color film. This was taken back in 1999 ... and a heck of capture ...



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shot taken by C. Schap


1/4-second later and that baby was gone, gone, gone!

Peekayoh
02-21-2009, 02:28 AM
Seize the moment!
Ah, the 9000, a great camera. Thought I'd still be missing mine but the A700 has banished the pain.
Nice one Don, the boy is so excited at getting control of the launch that he forgot to watch the rocket, damn!

Peekayoh
02-21-2009, 02:50 AM
NEW SHOOTS AMONG THE OLD

Camera: Sony DSLR-A700
Lens: Minolta MD MACRO 50mm f3.5
Exposure: 1/60th
Aperture: f/5.6 -1EV
Focal Length: 50mm
ISO Speed: 200
Date: 20th February 2009

Peekayoh
02-21-2009, 02:52 AM
The Rambling Rose is getting in on the act too. Considering we only just got rid of the snow, amazing.

RAMBLING ROSE BUDS

Camera: Sony DSLR-A700
Lens: Minolta MD MACRO 50mm f3.5
Exposure: 1/400th
Aperture: f/8 -3EV
Focal Length: 50mm
ISO Speed: 200
Date: 20th February 2009

laydros
02-21-2009, 07:17 AM
I thought I'd toss in this shot from my old Minolta Maxxum 9000 35mm-film SLR w/ the Minolta 50mm f/1.4 lens, using ASA-400 color film. This was taken back in 1999 ... and a heck of capture ...



44477


1/4-second later and that baby was gone, gone, gone!

What an awesome capture!

DonSchap
02-21-2009, 11:55 AM
What an awesome capture!

I have to give the wife the credit, she pressed the shutter on this one ... I just set up the shot so she could. A regular lenswoman she is, with a good eye, but I do the heavy lifting. LOL ;)

seanhoxx
02-21-2009, 09:12 PM
Don, you ever use the little film camera that snaps a shot when the parachute deploys on the rocket? I see your in uniform merit badge project I bet.

seanhoxx
02-21-2009, 09:21 PM
The Sony A700 stalks a young Canon and a wiley veteren Pentax as the 2 cross paths in a local high school.

seanhoxx
02-21-2009, 09:28 PM
Damn, sorry, it's more funny when you can see the whole thing at once!

laydros
02-21-2009, 09:56 PM
Geez, that Canon isn't a Rebel either. Thats quite a piece of gear for a high school student.

Then again, I probably had much more disposable income back then than I do now. I might have a lot more income, but mortgage, gas, and diapers (to name a few) are certainly not cheap.

DonSchap
02-21-2009, 10:22 PM
Don, you ever use the little film camera that snaps a shot when the parachute deploys on the rocket? I see your in uniform merit badge project I bet.

The Estes Rocket was called "CAMROC" ... and no one had built it, in our group. I was the Cub Den Leader for this event ... and to keep it official, I was uniformed. My son eventually got the Space Exploration Merit Badge (his very first), when he attended Space Camp, in Huntsville, AL. He had to build another rocket for that and successfully launch it.

This event was simply a more fun Den project, for the, then, Webelos Cub Scouts. We did a lot of cool stuff, being one of the first in the area to host a Space Derby. Oh well ... I leave it to younger folks, now. My patience is a lot thinner. :rolleyes: Kids are a lot different than they were only ten years ago. Their parents can have 'em.

seanhoxx
02-21-2009, 10:33 PM
The Canon boy is a friend of my daughters, the camera belongs to the schools yearbook / newspaper, Still pretty nice to 'learn on'
Don, my secretary at work who is the lady that really does all the work and types my reports with out spelling errors LOL her son took rockets for his 4H project last year. he is 8 so it was all pretty cool for him. I dug out my estes stuff that has been stored away for years and gave to him, including my 1 meter apollo model, I don't even know if you can get engines to launch that anymore!

DonSchap
02-21-2009, 10:41 PM
I had a Phoenix Missile I was going to build for the following year, but we never got around to it. I got involved with planning the District Pinewood Derby for two years and that shot a lot of free time. After then, there were other Scouting events, with the troop of Boy Scouts. Repelling off cliffs, cruising down rivers, wilderness adventure, hikes of all kinds, summer camp and just plain community support activities. Geez ... I'm surprised I got up in the morning.

Anyway ... maybe I'll finish it this year. Who knows?

Peekayoh
02-22-2009, 08:16 AM
COMMON GULL

Camera: Sony DSLR-A700
Lens: Minolta 28-135mm f4/4.5
Exposure: 1/4000th
Aperture: f/5
Focal Length: 135mm
ISO Speed: 200
Date: 11th February 2009

Elisha
02-22-2009, 10:35 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/DSC00105_edit.jpg

Camera Model: DSLR-A200
Flash Used: Yes (auto, red eye reduction m...
Focal Length: 70.0mm (35mm equivalent: 105m...
Exposure Time: 0.0080 s (1/125)
Aperture: f/5.6
ISO Equiv.: 400
Whitebalance: Auto
Metering Mode: matrix
Exposure: program (auto)

Peekayoh
02-23-2009, 10:46 AM
Elisha, I take it this shot was before you got your new Minolta lenses.

Peekayoh
02-23-2009, 10:47 AM
COMMON GULL

Camera: Sony DSLR-A700
Lens: Minolta 28-135mm f4/4.5
Exposure: 1/2500th
Aperture: f/5
Focal Length: 135mm
ISO Speed: 200
Date: 11th February 2009

seanhoxx
02-23-2009, 12:03 PM
dog fight, err um gull fight? nice capture

Elisha
02-23-2009, 03:05 PM
Elisha, I take it this shot was before you got your new Minolta lenses.


lol yeah these are old shots. the first day i got the camera. the original pic was terrible so i ran it trough Topaz Adjust and it still looks garish but somewhat unique.

laydros
02-23-2009, 06:29 PM
2 of my favorite things... ketchup and bokeh.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3495/3296955022_96280d4b62_b.jpg

Sony A300
Minolta 50mm f/1.7
ISO 800
1/25th
f/2.0

dr4gon
02-23-2009, 07:32 PM
I think that would look a lot better if you posted the exposure a stop or so in LR. ;)

But I do like both too!

seanhoxx
02-23-2009, 10:33 PM
Two people seeing the same thing but a different conclusion!

Peekayoh
02-24-2009, 09:41 AM
Sorry, Jason the bottle doesn't do it for me.

Sean's works though, the action's not always on court. Might benefit from a crop.

seanhoxx
02-24-2009, 10:18 AM
Peter where at and how much more of a crop, I could post the orig. it was full length on the coach and the ref and also 'dead space' to the left side of photo. should have tried to get in tighter at first?

Peekayoh
02-24-2009, 10:54 AM
Peter where at and how much more of a crop, I could post the orig. it was full length on the coach and the ref and also 'dead space' to the left side of photo. should have tried to get in tighter at first?

Definitely get as close to the action as possible, you could have maxed out to 200 with that lens. The fact that you already cropped it shows you know that anyway.

I'd crop it right to where the action is like this.

sparkie1263
02-24-2009, 05:26 PM
I seen this Harriet Hawk flying over the marshes. I was driving to stay ahead of it as it flew near the road.

Frank

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/Sony%20A100/HarrietHawkinFlight.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/Sony%20A100/HarrietHawk4.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/Sony%20A100/HarrietHawk3.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/Sony%20A100/HarrietHawk2.jpg

laydros
02-24-2009, 06:31 PM
I think that would look a lot better if you posted the exposure a stop or so in LR. ;)

But I do like both too!

Maybe like this?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3656/3307424547_a4c6624ab1_b.jpg

dr4gon
02-24-2009, 07:03 PM
Yeha, that's better!

Ldorey
02-24-2009, 07:10 PM
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu83/ljd1019/pine.jpg

A300
f5.0
ISO 400

dbatapbr
02-24-2009, 08:10 PM
I have been reading the postings here for awhile. Recently my KM 7D departed this world, so I am now getting used to my A700. Here is a shot I took the other day. I think the birds like it so I'll keep it.44578

dr4gon
02-24-2009, 08:24 PM
Interesting shot. I'm sure the A700 will fit in to your routine nicely ;)

seanhoxx
02-24-2009, 10:54 PM
Frank are you doing drive by shootings again? LOL Hey look new people!! hello and welcome. ldorey cool shot, you seeing that bokeh guys!! So is the bird hiding his face from you? neat reflection also.

Peekayoh
02-25-2009, 06:40 AM
Great, two new posters! The more the merrier!
One problem, no XIF data. This is the original post for this thread.


Certainly about time we had one! Let's try to have a nice picture every day!

So if we could, let's have a few simple guidelines:


One picture per person per day max.
Every picture must be different.
EXIF Info (including lens used).
Comments/caption on the shot.


These are guidelines and not "writ in stone" but do have some significance.
Any and all criticisms are well meant.

dbatapbr. Good shot. Where, what and when?
Caption? "A SHY BIRD" ( hmm, that may not have the same connotations as in the UK).

So, Ldorey, jumping right in with some helpful (I hope) criticism, slightly overexposed and lacking in contrast. Do you tackle any post processing? (Picture attached)

Peekayoh
02-25-2009, 06:40 AM
I don't have "Drive By" Mode on my A700. Guess that's one up for the A100.

Seriously though, Frank, you need a faster lens. I guess f8 is needed for sharpness with that lens of yours? Birds in flight are not easy, are they?

Peekayoh
02-25-2009, 06:58 AM
I've been biting my tongue and trying not to be the bad guy but....

Focus; You missed it.
Exposure: Under
Colour balance; good job you said it was a ketchup bottle.
This is a pretty mundane subject so unless you get the basics right, a "keeper" it is not.

Anyway, to illustrate the point(s) I took a pic of our Ketchup Bottle at a similar distance and under similar lighting conditions. You can right click the image for XIF which is
ISO 800, 1/40th, f2. I did not do any sharpening.

Sorry to be brutal and If I missed the artistic point, I apologise in advance.

Ldorey
02-25-2009, 07:30 AM
Thanks for the tips Peekayoh. I did not use and post processing on the picture I posted but your processed looks a lot nicer. I hopfuly will be picking up a copy of Photoshop Elements 7 shortly. I have been using Picasa but it is pretty limited.

sparkie1263
02-25-2009, 08:12 AM
I don't have "Drive By" Mode on my A700. Guess that's one up for the A100.

Seriously though, Frank, you need a faster lens. I guess f8 is needed for sharpness with that lens of yours? Birds in flight are not easy, are they?

What f stop should I be shooting this at? I bumped the Iso to 400 to get the speed up a little.

Thanks
Frank

Peekayoh
02-25-2009, 08:24 AM
Ldorey, you can't rely on the camera to get the exposure dead on everytime. Presumably you were in amongst the trees in a low key situation but there are a couple of things you can try.
Switch to "spot" metering.
Zoom in tight on the subject, use the AE LOCK button to freeze the exposure, reframe the shot before releasing the shutter.
"Bracket" the shot.

If that fails, it's resort to software time.
Elements is good, Photoshop is better. There are deals for students.
Shooting in RAW gives better control over rescuing a shot. Sony provide a program for this but Adobe Camera Raw, provided with Photoshop and/or Lightroom2 is better and also provides for conversion to DNG files.

Peekayoh
02-25-2009, 08:28 AM
What f stop should I be shooting this at? I bumped the Iso to 400 to get the speed up a little.

Thanks
Frank

As wide as possible to limit DOF and isolate the subject, while still retaining sharpness; a tall order.

laydros
02-25-2009, 08:41 AM
I've been biting my tongue and trying not to be the bad guy but....

Focus; You missed it.
Exposure: Under
Colour balance; good job you said it was a ketchup bottle.
This is a pretty mundane subject so unless you get the basics right, a "keeper" it is not.

Anyway, to illustrate the point(s) I took a pic of our Ketchup Bottle at a similar distance and under similar lighting conditions. You can right click the image for XIF which is
ISO 800, 1/40th, f2. I did not do any sharpening.

Sorry to be brutal and If I missed the artistic point, I apologise in advance.

No apology needed. I think you and I have different ideas on what a photo should be, but you are really the only person in this forum that consistently provides the type of photographic advice we need. We talk so much about what lens to buy next, we don't hear enough about what settings or skills to use, so I appreciate that.

This wasn't one of my favorite shots out of the bunch, but after someone on flickr requested I add it to a group, I figured there was more there than I originally thought. Now I kinda think that guy was a little off his rocker.

I do think there is a big composition difference in the shot that you took and mine because of the background. I kinda saw it as the ketchup bottle being a thing amongst this table "landscape" where you saw a ketchup bottle, and that was it. I should have used a smaller aperture so that he focus was on the ketchup, and everything else wasn't completely out of focus.

Nevertheless, you are right. The shot was a little too underexposed and probably soft, even in the version I pumped up. And I didn't execute the composition properly.

Maybe sometime I'll post a bunch of other peoples pictures off flickr that I like, and see if you like them or not. Might give me a good idea if I am misjudging my own shots, or if you and I just have very different ideas of a picture. Agreeing to disagree is fine, but if I can't be my own editor, I have a big problem.

Peekayoh
02-25-2009, 09:06 AM
Jason, happy I didn't offend and you're absolutely right about different views and what we see in a picture.
I do try to see what the photographer saw when I look at another's work, not always with success. As you point out I'm a bit too "literal" in my preferences.

seanhoxx
02-25-2009, 10:25 AM
For Peek...So this shy bird gets a ride to the pub from this bloke that drives a lorry. The weather is bad so she has her wellies on with her mac, once in the pub she orders a shandy and heads off to the loo. Then she steps into the garden and fires up a fag, the publican serves the pint, and asks if she wants to tuck in, the bangers and mash arent bad, the champ's a bit off and the bats were baked this morning. She says she will just have a fry up.
And they say we both speak English LOL! Did I mention my mother grew up in Northern Ireland and I have friends and family all over the U.K.

Peekayoh
02-25-2009, 11:37 AM
Eeh bah gum, mucker, in't that just like a Bird, Shandy and Capstan.
And yes, I know you're a shillelagh man, begorrah.

dbatapbr
02-25-2009, 01:52 PM
The rosette spoonbill was bathing, it was just at a great angle to be able to see under the wing. I will get the EXIF info for you later. I am at work at the moment. I see all of the photo's coming in here, and the great critiques and I think of the photo's I would like to send, but that would be in another forum since they were before the sony.

dr4gon
02-25-2009, 06:31 PM
Enough talk, how about a picture?


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3635/3309983774_ef2d0d8280_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3309983774/)

And what it looked like last week:


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3397/3294147468_b07bf036f7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3294147468/)

laydros
02-25-2009, 07:29 PM
Enough talk, how about a picture?


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3635/3309983774_ef2d0d8280_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3309983774/)

And what it looked like last week:


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3397/3294147468_b07bf036f7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3294147468/)

Me like, me like!

You are having a blast with that micro lens. So cool to see the before and after.

dr4gon
02-25-2009, 07:42 PM
Sure am! Easy to find subjects to shoot.... tack sharp lens (my kind of lens since I LOVE pixel peeping!), and everything (well many things) come out looking so cool when they're much bigger!

seanhoxx
02-25-2009, 09:04 PM
That is the Sony 100mm macro right? that is some cool looking shots you been putting up, going to start calling you drmacro!

dr4gon
02-25-2009, 09:08 PM
Yup :D

As soon as I get another 50mm F/1.4 that doesn't have AF issues, I will combine it with a macro reversing 55mm ring that I just ordered and be able to achieve 2:1 magnification. Hopefully I can get down into the veins of those leaves! :) And make ants bigger! I guess the only concern then would be lighting....

seanhoxx
02-25-2009, 09:10 PM
O.K. another picture, talk about multi tasking, this is Mark the lead broadcaster and director of the web radio station that puts up my sports photos. He is calling the basketball game and taking shots from the press box with his brand new A300 and Tamron 70-200. Wonder where he got that idea? ;)

DonSchap
02-25-2009, 09:13 PM
Tell him to keep his arms firmer against his body. Elbows out is not a good stance.

seanhoxx
02-25-2009, 09:22 PM
well it's better then this stance LOL, to bad I cut the top of head off. He has 2 laptops a blackeberry and a clipboard in front of him, I'm surprised he gets any shots at all. His tech guy beside is going to learn how to use the camera.

seanhoxx
02-25-2009, 09:24 PM
here is the picture also LOL

DonSchap
02-25-2009, 09:24 PM
Ideally, a photographer should not have to worry about anything other than where to stand and framing his composition. If you are multi-tasking, you are really a "snap-shooter."

I mean, how many times have you had to WAIT for the shot. Totally unplanned and if you were distracted for only a half-a-second, you missed it?

Peekayoh
02-26-2009, 01:16 AM
THE DAFFS ARE COMING

Camera: Sony DSLR-A700
Lens: Minolta Beercan f4
Exposure: 1/8th +0.3EV
Aperture: f8
Focal Length: 210mm
ISO Speed: 200
Date: 24th February 2009

dbatapbr
02-26-2009, 04:35 AM
Here is the picture with EXIF data
Camera: Sony A700
Lens: Tamron 200-400mm
Exposure: 0
Aperture: F9
Focal Length: 360mm
Shutter Speed: 1/1250
ISO: 200
Shooting Mode: Manual

seanhoxx
02-26-2009, 04:53 PM
For what its worth Sony is well represented at Ohio high school basketball! My camera, the webradio guy with his a300, and our stat girls with the Sony laptop. If anyone wants to take a look I have put up new pictures from this weeks games on flickr.

Peekayoh
02-27-2009, 12:54 AM
Distractions! distractions!

seanhoxx
02-27-2009, 07:30 AM
Wow, O.K. sorry!

Elisha
02-27-2009, 10:50 AM
Distractions! distractions!

jailbait.....

seanhoxx
02-27-2009, 11:08 AM
Guys, yes the young ladies are underage, but there isnt anything improper in the photo. The Sony laptop was the focus of the shot! Both of those girls played on my soccer team when I was assit. coach. And yes a pretty girl IS distracting, but in a good way! I hope Peek was saying it was distracting becuase of all the other stuff in the shot, the can, the bottle, the railing, etc.

DonSchap
02-27-2009, 11:11 AM
One has to ask ... did you get a "model release" signed? :eek: Underage requires a parent's signature ... witnessed. It's all in the darn paperwork, ain't it? Welcome to the good ol' USA!

seanhoxx
02-27-2009, 11:16 AM
I will fall back on Sports participation, they are the sta keepers 'working' at a open to the public athletic event. they were photographed just as anyone else might photo them or the cheerleaders or the players on the court. I guess I could always lift there parents signatures off of the soccer emergency medical forms LOL!

Peekayoh
02-27-2009, 11:16 AM
Guys, yes the young ladies are underage, but there isnt anything improper in the photo. The Sony laptop was the focus of the shot! Both of those girls played on my soccer team when I was assit. coach. And yes a pretty girl IS distracting, but in a good way! I hope Peek was saying it was distracting becuase of all the other stuff in the shot, the can, the bottle, the railing, etc.

Absolutely, Sean. Couldn't take my eyes of that Vaio!

laydros
02-27-2009, 12:02 PM
I could be wrong, I'm certainly not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure the only thing that keeps you from taking pictures of a minor is if your feet are in a private place, and the owner of that private place is not ok with you taking pics.

Some of this stuff isn't totally flushed out, but I've been looking at a lot of the legal stuff lately, and I think you could stand on a public road, and take pictures of someone's 2 year old, or 12 year old, or 16 year old and post the pictures on flickr all day long... until you start charging for them. At which point you almost certainly need a signed, witnessed release.

In this case Sean was in a private place (sorta, I guess the line is kinda blurred if it is a public school) but at any rate, the school (owner of the place/event) asked him to take pictures. In fact, he was specifically asked to take pictures of students!

I know you guys are mostly ribbing him (there's a few cheerleader shots in his flickr stream as well), but I think there is a lot of misunderstanding about the fact that photography is not a crime in most cases. Methinks a new thread on this would be useful... I'll dig up some info.

Peekayoh
02-27-2009, 03:19 PM
DERBY 'N JOAN

Camera: Sony DSLR-A700
Lens: Minolta 28-135mm f4/4.5
Exposure: 1/250th
Aperture: f4.5
Focal Length: 135mm
ISO Speed: 800
Date: 11th February 2009

Elisha
02-27-2009, 03:45 PM
those buggers look like they ate a cat each!

sparkie1263
02-27-2009, 08:45 PM
I tried to apply the tilt shift effect. What do you think?

Frank

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/TrainStationTiltShift.jpg

faisal
02-27-2009, 09:55 PM
Nice attempt...is that a real train station or a model...???
btw you could have tried to add a diagonal T&S lens effect... something like this http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q121/faisal7/400D/IMG_8267.jpg

Rooz
02-27-2009, 11:42 PM
I tried to apply the tilt shift effect. What do you think?

Frank



excellent job frank !

sparkie1263
02-28-2009, 04:00 AM
I took this picture while I was driving. I opened the passenger side window and snapped a few off. There is usually bumper to bumper on that road but that day there was no traffic at all. I seen this tutorial on this site
http://www.tutorialkit.com/tutorials/Photoshop-tutorial-how-to-fake-tilt-shift-photography-03530.html.
Thanks Rooz I wasn't sure if I liked it because of the way the train was facing. Faisal I think it might look better if I do it vertical.

Thanks
Frank

Peekayoh
02-28-2009, 05:55 AM
Question is, does it improve compared to the original?

swpars
02-28-2009, 11:40 PM
I tried to apply the tilt shift effect. What do you think?



Quite convincing! It looks a lot like a model trainset.

sparkie1263
03-01-2009, 04:30 AM
Thanks For the comments
Frank

Peekayoh
03-01-2009, 05:37 AM
The difference a week makes.

AMARYLLIS

Camera: Sony DSLR-A700
Lens: Minolta MD 50mm Macro f3.5
Exposure: 1/40th and 2.5sec
Aperture: f8 -1.7 and f11
Focal Length: 50mm
ISO Speed: 200
Date: 20th February and 1st March 2009

Elisha
03-01-2009, 06:42 AM
my cousins. a little OOF but i still like the shot!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/elishajesudason/_DSC3392_edit.jpg

dbatapbr
03-01-2009, 08:21 AM
A trip to Lowery Park Zoo yesterday and I was able to capture her.
A700
Focal lenght: 300mm
Aperture: F5.6
SS: 1/50
ISO: 100
Manual
Flash: Forced Flash +3
Ex: +3
Practiced 5 exposure HDR and some PP in PS.

DonSchap
03-01-2009, 10:25 AM
Good shot ... these animals are some of the more difficult to photograph, because of their near camouflage hair. They always look like there are moving ... a blur, so to speak. It is really hard to tell is you have a good focus on them.

Rooz
03-01-2009, 11:15 AM
my cousins. a little OOF but i still like the shot!



NR is far too strong aswell.

Elisha
03-01-2009, 11:17 AM
NR is far too strong aswell.

that's on purpose. i ran it trough Topaz Adjust trying to get a funky look. didn't need NR on the original at all but i wanted to experiment so i jacked it up.

dr4gon
03-01-2009, 12:10 PM
A trip to Lowery Park Zoo yesterday and I was able to capture her.
A700
Focal lenght: 300mm
Aperture: F5.6
SS: 1/50
ISO: 100
Manual
Flash: Forced Flash +3
Ex: +3
Practiced 5 exposure HDR and some PP in PS.


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3206/2892873759_2d83106714.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/2892873759/)

Yeah you did a great job! Their hair is quite unique!

dbatapbr
03-01-2009, 02:08 PM
Thanks, nice shot of the male. I had one opportunity at the male. I had been taking shots and then he walked out and stared at me. I focused and nothing, I looked and my card was full. He continued to stare as I fumbled for my second card. He watched as I replaced the card and as I raised the camera again, he turned around and never looked at me again. That sucked.

Rooz
03-01-2009, 02:31 PM
that's on purpose. i ran it trough Topaz Adjust trying to get a funky look.

if by "funky" you mean terrible...then it worked. :p

dr4gon
03-01-2009, 03:14 PM
Thanks, nice shot of the male. I had one opportunity at the male. I had been taking shots and then he walked out and stared at me. I focused and nothing, I looked and my card was full. He continued to stare as I fumbled for my second card. He watched as I replaced the card and as I raised the camera again, he turned around and never looked at me again. That sucked.

Similar thing happened to me last weekend with a blujay out in the front yard. I watched it for quite a while sing beautifully but after I quickly ran into the house to grab my camera and came out, it took off.

sparkie1263
03-02-2009, 08:39 AM
Another view of the trains. I had nothing to do we got 10 inches of snow.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn219/sparkie1263/TrainTrackTiltShift2.jpg

dr4gon
03-02-2009, 08:53 PM
Who ate their vegetables today?


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3596/3325091722_7cdaf09795_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3325091722/)

Peekayoh
03-03-2009, 01:28 AM
No way this was a Macro shot!

laydros
03-03-2009, 06:32 AM
Who ate their vegetables today?


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3596/3325091722_7cdaf09795_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3325091722/)

Uh, gross. I love broccoli, but I don't think I can ever eat it again! Nice pic, I've never seen it that up-close.

Peekayoh
03-04-2009, 02:29 AM
DUNNOCK

Camera: Sony DSLR-A700
Lens: Minolta 28-135mm f4/4.5
Exposure: 1/30th
Aperture: f7.1
Focal Length: 130mm
ISO Speed: 200
Date: 17th December 2008

DonSchap
03-04-2009, 10:21 PM
dbatapbr's . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Dr4gon's . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . DonSchap's
447274472844729

And just watch the fur fly, eh? :eek: No "chimping!"

dr4gon
03-05-2009, 05:55 AM
lol, nice set!


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3297/3329911476_9c116d37f2_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3329911476/)

Here's something from yesterday.

Peekayoh
03-05-2009, 09:39 AM
At least we know you weren't speeding.

dr4gon
03-05-2009, 10:05 AM
What are you talking about? The needle dipped below 110 mph :p

DonSchap
03-05-2009, 10:18 AM
Cripes, if I did a 110mph in my Avalanche, the darn rear covers would pull off! No thanks!

Too many idiots doing only 40 mph around here. They are more like obstacles than drivers. I've seen parking lots move faster.

I tell ya, driving around here is ... for the birds


44733
EXIF: α700 v. 3 w/ CZ 135mm f/1.8
@ f/1.8 - 1/90 sec. - ISO-100 - Spot focus - Spot metering - Manual - Exposure comp +0.5 step

Peekayoh
03-05-2009, 10:49 AM
What are you talking about? The needle dipped below 110 mph :p

Damn! Left myself open for that one. You and Frank in competition?

seanhoxx
03-05-2009, 10:53 AM
Hey somebody tell Rooz Don posted a picture! LOL just kidding guys, I'm going to post another basketball picture from a dark nasty old gym with mixed overhead lighting! just don't be to rough on me

Peekayoh
03-05-2009, 12:19 PM
Yea, and it looks OOF!

Peekayoh
03-05-2009, 12:29 PM
This little fellow is hard to get close to!

GREAT CRESTED GREBE

Camera: Sony DSLR-A700
Lens: Minolta 28-135mm f4/4.5
Exposure: 1/320th
Aperture: f6.3
Focal Length: 135mm
ISO Speed: 200
Date: 11th February 2009

DonSchap
03-05-2009, 12:34 PM
Yea, and it looks OOF!

It's not OOF! :mad:

What you are seeing is combination of the 135mm f/1.8 shallow DOF @ f/1.8 and a maybe minor bit of image shake ... personally, I think she moved. Her back actually is very much in focus ...

44738
Wing-tip crop ... look and see the texture of the feathers

but move 1/2 inch further in ... blurred to bokeh. This bird is extremely skittish and I play hell trying to get her to come out, every flippin' time I visit. You should see her underside. It is unreal. I wish I could snap it, but she's just too darn fast, with no room to really cruise. The Aviary is about 30-35 feet across.

If I had been using some f/4 lens ... the DOF would have been more inclusive, but she doesn't hold very still for a 1/20th-second exposure. You cannot even get a "cooperative" human to do that. It is always choices we make. I wanted the color saturation of ISO-100, Who doesn't? There is no flash, just whatever ambient light of the diffused skylight. Maybe I should include the habitat, next time. We can then use the "brain-trust", here, to design a new exposure.

f/1.8 aperture is seductive as hell ... and you can see what happens with DOF when you use it. That is why I petitioned for a DOF calculator in the DSLR cameras. You would then know your limitations, on the run, by a quick calculation by the camera itself. It KNOWs how far away "Mrs. Chicken" is here with ADI info ... and given the aperture and focal length ... you have everything you need to figure out the depth of the focal plane you are working with.

The again, Peter, until you shoot through a 135mm f/1.8 lens .. you kind of miss that little detail. A 200mm f/2 is even worse.

dr4gon
03-05-2009, 01:46 PM
It's not OOF! :mad:

What you are seeing is combination of the 135mm f/1.8 shallow DOF @ f/1.8 and a maybe minor bit of image shake ... personally, I think he moved. His back actually is very much in focus ...

44738
Wing-tip crop ... look and see the texture of the feathers

but move 1/2 inch further in ... blurred to bokeh. This bird is extremely skittish and I play hell trying to get him to come out, every flippin' time I visit. You should see his underside. It is unreal. I wish I could snap it, but he's too darn fast.

If I had been using some f/4 lens ... the DOF would have been more inclusive, but he doesn't hold very still for a 1/20th-second exposure. You cannot even get a "cooperative" human to do that. It is always choices we make. I wanted the color saturation of ISO-100, Who doesn't? There is no flash, just whatever ambient light of the diffused skylight. Maybe I should include the habitat, next time. We can then use the "brain-trust", here, to design a new exposure.

f/1.8 aperture is seductive as hell ... and you can see what happens with DOF when you use it. That is why I petitioned for a DOF calculator in the DSLR cameras. You would then know your limitations, on the run, by a quick calculation by the camera itself. It KNOWs how far away "Mr. Chicken" is here with ADI info ... and given the aperture and focal length ... you have everything you need to figure out the depth of the focal plane you are working with.

The again, Peter, until you shoot through a 135mm f/1.8 lens .. you kind of miss that little detail. A 200mm f/2 is even worse.

Yeah, the eyes are definitely not in focus. He probably just happened to move since you grabbed the focus. You didn't get another?

DonSchap
03-05-2009, 01:57 PM
Ryan, I think you and my friend, "Mrs. Chicken" (the White-crested Turaco), need to spend some valuable time together for you to fully appreciate just how hard this bird is to image. She loves to hide way in the back of the aviary, where no camera can get. I may go down there, later next week, and try again. I need to use up the rest of my annual pass.

Also, slinging around the CZ 135mm f/1.8 is no small task, either. That darn prime weighs 35 ounces, so it has some momentum. I was going to try and get her with the TAMRON 90mm f/2.8 Di MACRO, but the focus is kind of slow on that lens. Perhaps your SONY 100mm f/2.8 MACRO would be a bit quicker.

Rooz
03-05-2009, 01:57 PM
Hey somebody tell Rooz Don posted a picture! LOL just kidding guys,

yeeeha !


Yea, and it looks OOF!

lmao


It's not OOF! :mad:

What you are seeing is combination of the 135mm f/1.8 shallow DOF @ f/1.8 and a maybe minor bit of image shake ... personally, I think he moved. His back actually is very much in focus ...

anytime an animals head and/or eyes are in the shot and they are not in focus then the whole shot looks OOF. i think you picked the wrong thing to focus on. still, beautiful colour out of that zeiss. iso500 would have been a better option since you could have used f4. the bokeh is unusual, i have expereineced the same sort of bokeh with the 85/1.4 zeiss. its seems to be quite unique to zeiss glass for whatever reason.


f/1.8 aperture is seductive as hell ... and you can see what happens with DOF when you use it. That is why I petitioned for a DOF calculator in the DSLR cameras. You would then know your limitations, on the run, by a quick calculation by the camera itself. It KNOWs how far away "Mr. Chicken" is here with ADI info ... and given the aperture and focal length ... you have everything you need to figure out the depth of the focal plane you are working with.

excatly, you can SEE it. so why do you need a fiddly calculator ? its not a veyr good idea or a useful one.

seanhoxx
03-05-2009, 03:27 PM
I think I recall reading somewhere that when shooting animals with a camera anyway that you try and focus on the center of the nose and not the eyes? does this sound familier to anyone? I think it was something abbout animals are always scanning and therefore moving there eyes. Not sure if it woul apply to Mr. chicken there but lots of animals would be longer "deeper' into the shot instead of 'vertical' like a human. would that be enough to loose some focus? just me thinking out loud, and wishing I had taken more math classes.

Rooz
03-05-2009, 03:40 PM
sean, you dont need math at all. you just need to shoot them, so to speak. it takes a couple of seconds to shoot and check the LCD for focus. much, much faster and more practical than searching thru menus and adding numbers on some calculator.

golden rule for any animal, including humans, is always focus on the eyes. always.

DonSchap
03-05-2009, 04:04 PM
"Eye concur."
44739
EXIF: α700 v.03 w/ Tokina AT-X 840 80-400mm f/4.5-5.6
@ 120mm - f/4.5 - 1/200 sec - ISO-200 - Spot Metering - Spot Focus - Manual Mode - Bright Sunlight

"The eyes have it" and that's all you need to know. Go for the focus and snap away, unless you are taking pieces parts of the ani-mule.

I won't debate it ... DOF will kill you ... with wide aperture. You are witnessing it, but it is fun to play with. ;)

sparkie1263
03-05-2009, 04:54 PM
Damn! Left myself open for that one. You and Frank in competition?

LOL I don't shoot and drive that fast. What I do is reverse panning. LOL
Frank

seanhoxx
03-05-2009, 06:18 PM
O.K. always go for the eyes, got it, and about the math what I ment was that is is really a lot about photography, the fundamentals if you will that I feel I should just "know" with out having to think, and a lot of what I have to think out involves math LOL. Shoot look shoot again, curse and mumble under breath shoot again, push buttons and spin wheels, shoot again, where the hell did that bird go? LOL

seanhoxx
03-05-2009, 06:26 PM
Another basketball shot. Our girls made it through both sectional games, this is from the district which we won, and now go to regionals. I have no idea as to why the district game was held in a old rundown, tiny dark, gym with poor lighting from mixed sources, You can see more at my flickr page.

Rooz
03-05-2009, 06:39 PM
Shoot look shoot again, curse and mumble under breath shoot again, push buttons and spin wheels, shoot again, where the hell did that bird go? LOL

yepp, thats part of the joy ! the thrill of the chase ! lol

Peekayoh
03-06-2009, 04:43 AM
I hope I'm not in the habit of "dissing" anybody for the sake of it, but as one of the most experienced (and voluble) people on this forum inexperienced users presumably take heed of your advice.
There are a few things here that need addressing


It's not OOF! :mad:

What you are seeing is combination of the 135mm f/1.8 shallow DOF @ f/1.8 and a maybe minor bit of image shake ... personally, I think he moved. His back actually is very much in focus ...

Like I said, it's OOF, inadequate DOF (depth of field) may be the reason for it but this image belongs in the bin. It's a legitimate technique to have part of the subject in focus and let a minimal DOF progressively blur the rest but this isn't it, the bit that you say is correctly focussed is underexposed, indistinct and therefore less than useful.


....... If I had been using some f/4 lens ... the DOF would have been more inclusive, but he doesn't hold very still for a 1/20th-second exposure....

Dead right, you could have kept the same shutter speed and stopped down to f4 at ISO400 with a correspondingly greater DOF. I've no idea of your shooting distance and whether DOF would have been sufficient, but it may have been enough to get the shot.


....... I wanted the color saturation of ISO-100, Who doesn't? ..........

Me! The A700's optimum base sensitivity is ISO200. ISO100 reduces the highlight range by 0.7EV (2/3rds of a stop).
ISO400 would have been a better choice because there is no reduction in dynamic range (unlike ISO100).

Avoid ISO100 unless you have a specific requirement to slow the shutter speed down, it is the same as sticking a 1EV ND filter on the front.
.
PS
Don, I know where you're coming from on this issue, anyone coming from film is likely to make the same assumption, me included, that lower ISO's give better results. Unfortunately, Sensor's do not behave like Film.

bigw00dy
03-06-2009, 06:02 AM
Just got my 'new' Minolta 50mm f/1.7 from Ebay. I really do like this lens. My 2.5 year old daughter!
Thanks

Camera: Sony DSLR-A100
Exposure: 0.013 sec (1/80)
Aperture: f/5.6
Focal Length: 50 mm
ISO Speed: 400
Exposure Bias: 0 EV
Flash: Auto, Fired, Red-eye reduction


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3306/3328767339_1b17aefa22.jpg

Peekayoh
03-06-2009, 06:49 AM
Wow, that's a real corker and you can take that to mean the Image or the little lady.

I'm tempted not to say anything else, but "you know me". The image is good enough to deserve a little attention, nothing drastic, just the levels and maybe a little spotting. You will be looking at this image with pleasure for such a long time.

.

DonSchap
03-06-2009, 06:49 AM
Look, like anything ... we are all trying to improve our craft and working with the lenses places us in situations where you do not always get the best of all aspects. There actually may be no second shot and you make lemonade. The "Tauraco" image, while not technically perfect, offered an image of a fantastically colored bird ... and I will go back to get this one, again, if I can. I have already made two vain attempts at her ... and will make another, soon. Most birds do not appreciate you pointing a camera at them ... especially with a human behind it.

I appreciate your assessment of "Mrs. Chicken" and we shall see what we shall see. My advice ... surprise your subject :eek:

dr4gon
03-06-2009, 07:14 AM
Me! The A700's optimum base sensitivity is ISO200. ISO100 reduces the highlight range by 0.7EV (2/3rds of a stop).
ISO400 would have been a better choice because there is no reduction in dynamic range (unlike ISO100).

Avoid ISO100 unless you have a specific requirement to slow the shutter speed down, it is the same as sticking a 1EV ND filter on the front.


So, I guess even on my A300, I should stick with ISO200 for more dynamci range? I just like the cleaner look of A200.

bigw00dy
03-06-2009, 07:22 AM
Peekayoh...Thanks you for the compliment!
and I do enjoy/absorb criticism, so feel free. You touched the photo up quite well i must add.

Peekayoh
03-06-2009, 07:32 AM
So, I guess even on my A300, I should stick with ISO200 for more dynamci range? I just like the cleaner look of A200.

It's a different sensor so the base sensitivity may be at ISO100, I don't know.

The A700 manual says "The larger the number from the standard (ISO 200), the higher the sensitivity". That's the only mention.

laydros
03-06-2009, 12:51 PM
I'm yet to see the base ISO for the A300, and it might not be listed, but especially since hearing that the A700 (and some other cameras from other brands) have a base ISO of 200, I rarely use 100. When I was doing those snow shots of the falls I dropped to ISO 100 to allow slower shutters, but I end up sticking with 200 as my typical minimum, and I am yet to notice any difference.

laydros
03-06-2009, 01:03 PM
Doughnuts?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3629/3334044930_651ac0d6e2_b.jpg

A300
ISO 200
1/20
f/5 (Seems shallow DOF for f/5 at 50mm?)
Minolta 50mm f/1.7

This is why I carry my camera with me almost everywhere. My wife's aunt and uncle were down from Iowa staying with us a couple of days, so we took them to Krispy Kreme. It was also my 2 month old daughters first trip. We happened to be there when a kids group was touring, and we were invited to go back and see things. I've been going to this place all my life... my grandfather was a guard at the nearby state penitentiary and used to take me there a lot, he knew all the employees.

sparkie1263
03-06-2009, 02:13 PM
I too shoot at iso 200 most of the time. I see no difference in the shots also.
Frank

Peekayoh
03-06-2009, 02:16 PM
Jason, I'm guessing you were no more than 4 feet away. At that distance the total DOF would be 4.5", 2" in front and 2.5" behind the focus point. I think you were focussed on the doughnut centre frame that's half disappearing under the sugar, so the DN this side is OOF at 2", the two to the left are closer to the focus plane and the one to the left of that is behind it (2.5") and going OOF.

I think it's OK but pulling back a foot would have increased the DOF to 7".

DonSchap
03-06-2009, 04:33 PM
Okay ... went back to the Brookfield Zoo "Perching Birds" exhibit ... and waited ... and waited ... for the female White-Crested Tauraco. I didn't see her for the first ten minutes and even asked the Aviary handler whether the bird was still aorund. He assured me it was and then told me the two places it likes to hide. Sure enough, it was there, well hidden, but you could occasionally see the white-crest poking around.

It took another twenty minutes, but she finally perched herself on her cage and just sat there ... and I have dozens of shots of just sittin' ...



44763
EXIF: A700 w/ TAMRON SP AF 200-500m f/5-6.3 Di LD
@ 500mm - f/6.3 - 1/25 sec. - ISO-1600 - Spot Meter - Spot Focus - Manual - Tripod - Ambient lighting (diffused skylight)


then, it began to peck at itself. It then stretched and resettled its marvelous wings. It was super quick, but you should get the idea. Incredible color underneath them puppies.



44762
EXIF: A700 w/ TAMRON SP AF 200-500m f/5-6.3 Di LD
@ 200mm - f/7.1 - 1/10 sec. - ISO-800 - Spot Meter - Spot Focus - Manual - Tripod - Ambient lighting (diffused skylight)


This was the closest I could get with this gal actually spreading her wings ... because it moves like a rocket from on place to another, inside that enclosure.

Then, another branch shot ...



44764
EXIF: A700 w/ TAMRON SP AF 200-500m f/5-6.3 Di LD
@ 300mm - f/7.1 - 1/10 sec. - ISO-800 - Spot Meter - Spot Focus - Manual - Handheld - Ambient lighting (diffused skylight)

Rooz
03-06-2009, 05:05 PM
i've shot alot of birds so i know it can be very challenging. it takes alot of patience and planning to try and avoid the cages if at all possible. there has been many a time when i've come back from a shoot with nothing cos its too dark or the birds are too skitish on the day.

the first looks a bit blurry, either the NR is far too strong or the shutter speed too slow. the second looks like its at iso25000.

DonSchap
03-06-2009, 05:23 PM
Well, dry your eyes and try to enjoy it anyway ... and thanks for your input. Another day shot to heck!

Rooz
03-06-2009, 05:26 PM
i know the feeling all too well

DonSchap
03-06-2009, 05:47 PM
Here's a personality shot from the poor parrot who watched me the entire time ... waiting for his neighbor to come out and play.



44765
EXIF: A700 w/ CZ 135mm f/1.8
@ f/2.8 - 1/500 sec. - ISO-800 - Spot Meter - Spot Focus - Manual - Handheld - Ambient lighting (diffused skylight)

dr4gon
03-06-2009, 09:07 PM
Here's a personality shot from the poor parrot who watched me the entire time ... waiting for his neighbor to come out and play.



44765
EXIF: A700 w/ CZ 135mm f/1.8
@ f/2.8 - 1/500 sec. - ISO-800 - Spot Meter - Spot Focus - Manual - Handheld - Ambient lighting (diffused skylight)


Now, there's a winner! Why ISO800? Not that it's that noisy or anything, just curious...

DonSchap
03-07-2009, 07:44 AM
Iwas going for speed to catch "Mrs. Chicken's" wings a flappin' ... and while I was waiting ... in vain, I turned and took this guy.

As noted, in the past, on the A700, ISO-800 is truly "doable" without suffering the same noise-issue the lesser models do. Anyway ... it worked for this one.

bigw00dy
03-07-2009, 08:10 AM
Exposure: 0.05 sec (1/20)
Aperture: f/2.0
Focal Length: 50 mm
ISO Speed: 400
Exposure Bias: +0.3 EV
Flash: Did not fire

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3660/3328767325_83b2151658.jpg

Peekayoh
03-07-2009, 10:30 AM
I suppose you're playing around with DOF and now its pretty narrow and the ears are OOF.
Ok you're on f2 at 1/20th so
switch to Manual Mode and go to f5.6 at 1/20th
pop the flash up, select manual flash and dial the power right down (1/16)
you're quite close so you might have to play around with the aperture a bit to correct the exposure.
See where that gets you. Oh, and get rid of the gizmo behind the dog.

BTW I'm no flash expert so someone else may have a better solution.

Rooz
03-07-2009, 01:59 PM
Iwas going for speed to catch "Mrs. Chicken's" wings a flappin' ... and while I was waiting ... in vain, I turned and took this guy.

As noted, in the past, on the A700, ISO-800 is truly "doable" without suffering the same noise-issue the lesser models do. Anyway ... it worked for this one.

noise is not, (or shouldn't be), a cause for conern at iso800 when you have enough light to shoot at 1/500s.

nice looking bird and the background sets it off perfectly. i think you missed it by a fraction, his foreground feathers look more in focus than his head.

not quite sure why you're using 2.8 here. f4 would have given you a smidge more focus on the bird giving you more leeway for slight user error, you're still shooting at a high 1/250s, iso stays the same and the background wouldnt have changed much at all.

do you have auto iso on the a700 ? f4, 1/200s and iso640 may have been the best comprimise.

DonSchap
03-07-2009, 02:14 PM
ISO-AUTO is not available in MANUAL Mode. You do have to choose.

Now, if you are using AUTO, P, A, or S Modes you can select it. These are not modes I am crazy about using and if they were not on my camera ... I would probably feel no pain. Everyone has there preferred way or comfort zone.

Anyway, thanks for the comments on POTD ... while normally not the "critique zone", it has, apparently, become one. Oh well ... let me say I'll invite C & C if I feel uncomfortable with what I shove in it. Please, don't feel obligated to offer it.

Thanks :D

laydros
03-07-2009, 03:22 PM
Hmm... I shoot an awful lot in A and S modes. A lot of the time I just don't have time to swap around much. I'm sure it helps that the A700 has two real wheels. I wonder how long until they put a third wheel on the high end cameras for ISO.

I wish we had ISO range on the A300. I can't remember if the A700 has it or not, and I think either Canon or Nikon has it, but I don't remember which. Where you just dial in I am willing to go between ISO 200-800, and the camera handles the rest, instead of the Auto mode my camera has where its just 100-400.

Elisha
03-07-2009, 03:29 PM
i think one of the scene modes allows Auto ISO to go up to 800. not sure which one but i'm guessing the night portrait mode.

Rooz
03-07-2009, 04:00 PM
Anyway, thanks for the comments on POTD ... while normally not the "critique zone", it has, apparently, become one. Oh well ... let me say I'll invite C & C if I feel uncomfortable with what I shove in it. Please, don't feel obligated to offer it.

Thanks :D

to the contrary, POTD should be all about C&C. how else do we improve or get other ideas off people ? if all POTD is about is to post pictures then how is anyone expected to grow ? you really have this photography thing ass about face. if you dont want C&C i suggest you add a line in your sig. something like this:

"No C&C on my photos please. i never make mistakes and if on he rare chance i do, i'd prefer to be ignorant of both the mistake and how to make it better next time."

Rooz
03-07-2009, 04:05 PM
Hmm... I shoot an awful lot in A and S modes. A lot of the time I just don't have time to swap around much. I'm sure it helps that the A700 has two real wheels. I wonder how long until they put a third wheel on the high end cameras for ISO.

I wish we had ISO range on the A300. I can't remember if the A700 has it or not, and I think either Canon or Nikon has it, but I don't remember which. Where you just dial in I am willing to go between ISO 200-800, and the camera handles the rest, instead of the Auto mode my camera has where its just 100-400.

nikon have had it for ages and canon just whacked it in their bodies. it should work in any mode, someone should check that out on the a700, i;d be surprised if it didnt work in manual mode.

basically what you do is set your minimum shutter speed and your maximum iso and the camera does th rest for iso. for scenes of changing light and really fast adjustments its invaluable.

TenD
03-07-2009, 04:05 PM
"No C&C on my photos please. i never make mistakes and if on he rare chance i do, i'd prefer to be ignorant of both the mistake and how to make it better next time."
You forgot the :D

DonSchap
03-07-2009, 05:46 PM
Well, thanks for the discussion ... in the middle of POTD. If you feel so provoked, start another thread addressing the point and see who participates. There are aspects that simply do not qualify for the "you got to be kidding ... they are being that touchy?"

"M" (Manual) Mode in the A700 does not have AUTO ISO ... it is grayed out, so you need to just accept it and dance on down the road. Do you think I am just putting this out for fun? It has been researched. Heck, I have the camera right in front of me. Buy one and see for yourself.

In the A700, ISO-AUTO has upper and lower limits to it, but the menu is only offered in the following Modes: P, A, & S

Upper limits are: 400, 800, & 1600

Lower limits are: 200, 400

Rooz
03-07-2009, 06:00 PM
apparently in the sony forum, Don is the ONLY one who is allowed to give critique. lol

DonSchap
03-07-2009, 06:22 PM
apparently in the sony forum, Don is the ONLY one who is allowed to give critique. lol

Nah ... have fun as you wish, we all come freely.

Here's the "Red Blur" (aka "Smallville's Hero") ... this bird makes my head spin.


44770
EXIF: A700 v. 04 w/ TAMRON SP AF 200-500mm f/5-6.3 Di LD
@ 200mm - f/7.1 - 1/10 sec. - ISO-800 - Spot Meter - Spot Focus - M Mode - Tripod - Diffused Skylight

Ldorey
03-07-2009, 07:21 PM
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu83/ljd1019/Truckinmulch_filtered.jpg

Truck In the Mulch
Sony A300
Sony 55-200 lens
ISO 400
1/320
f5.6

DonSchap
03-07-2009, 09:53 PM
Got this big fellow on Friday ... and the weather was nearly 70-degrees. Spring is trying real hard to show up ...



44771
EXIF: A700 v. 04 w/ TAMRON SP AF 70-200mm f/2.8 Di LD MACRO
@ 200mm - f/11 - 1/60 sec. - ISO-400 - Spot Meter - Spot Focus - Handheld - WB=Daylight - M Mode

Peekayoh
03-08-2009, 01:50 AM
Hmm... I shoot an awful lot in A and S modes. A lot of the time I just don't have time to swap around much. I'm sure it helps that the A700 has two real wheels. I wonder how long until they put a third wheel on the high end cameras for ISO.

I wish we had ISO range on the A300. I can't remember if the A700 has it or not, and I think either Canon or Nikon has it, but I don't remember which. Where you just dial in I am willing to go between ISO 200-800, and the camera handles the rest, instead of the Auto mode my camera has where its just 100-400.

Jason, I'm not quite sure what you meant (I'm not sure about some of the other comment either), so in clarification as I see it.

On the A700, ISO selection is by a button press on top of the camera and rotatation of a "Command" wheel. The front wheel changes ISO in full 100's (200, 400, 800....) and the rear wheel changes it in 1/3EV steps (200, 250, 320, 400.....). You can also use the Quick Menu Function.

Auto ISO has a selectable lower limit of 200 or 400 and a selectable upper limit of 400, 800 or 1600.
Although I don't use the autoiso setting myself (so far), I believe it selects the higher ISOs by broadly following the "reciprocal rule" for the focal length in use. I've heard it takes no account of SSS being on or off, which is odd if correct.

Auto ISO is not available in Manual mode. How could it be?

BTW, I invariably choose "A" or "P" mode with occasional use of Manual for specific occasions.

Rooz
03-08-2009, 03:59 AM
Although I don't use the autoiso setting myself (so far), I believe it selects the higher ISOs by broadly following the "reciprocal rule" for the focal length in use. I've heard it takes no account of SSS being on or off, which is odd if correct.

this is a strange application of this feature. auto iso should in theory simply operate off the cameras meter by selecting the value needed to complete the correct exposure trinity. this sounds to be too much of a crippled system, (1600 max in auto is lame aswell), which is probably why you dont hear anyone using a sony talk about it.


Auto ISO is not available in Manual mode. How could it be?

it can be and should be. if i want to select the shutter speed and aperture i want to use for a photo in varied light conditions expecially, i set it to manual, select my shutter speed and aperture values and then ask the auto iso to bump up the iso only if i need it to. when you're shoting real quick and dont have alot of time to change settings, this is a key feature.

Visual Reality
03-08-2009, 05:08 AM
Don that's a great shot. I never seem to get great photos of Polar Bears. For one, it's too easy to overexpose when the sun is directly hitting them.

Peekayoh
03-08-2009, 09:47 AM
....it can be and should be. if i want to select the shutter speed and aperture i want to use for a photo in varied light conditions expecially, i set it to manual, select my shutter speed and aperture values and then ask the auto iso to bump up the iso only if i need it to. when you're shoting real quick and dont have alot of time to change settings, this is a key feature.

Rooz, I may be being thick here, but I don't see it.
If I'm in Manual mode it's because I have a specific reason for not wanting the camera to change the exposure.
If the AutoIso is in operation it will change it, and that's not what I want.
Right?

DonSchap
03-08-2009, 09:57 AM
Don that's a great shot. I never seem to get great photos of Polar Bears. For one, it's too easy to overexpose when the sun is directly hitting them.

I noted and made use of the shadows the surrounding trees were placing on his head. I took several shots, as he turned it back and forth. From those, I selected this one, having the most "natural" contrast. Rarely, can you get it all correct, in just one shot, and then just walk away. Digital Imaging offers you reasonably unlimited image recording, so you have the luxury of "getting it right", if you take a little more time during the shoot, rather than trifling with it, afterwards. Animals, as we all know, rarely do what you tell them. So, it is "luck of the draw", more often than not.

Thanks for picking up on that, though. I figure a little more explanation was due because they are so hard to image, in the bright sun.

DonSchap
03-08-2009, 10:12 AM
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu83/ljd1019/Truckinmulch_filtered.jpg

Truck In the Mulch
Sony A300
Sony 55-200 lens
ISO 400
1/320
f5.6

This wouldn't be a "Pinewood Derby" entry, would it? Somehow, those wheels look quite similarly spaced. Good use of DOF on this image. :)

Ldorey
03-08-2009, 10:25 AM
This wouldn't be a "Pinewood Derby" entry, would it? Somehow, those wheels look quite similarly spaced. Good use of DOF on this image. :)

no, Itís a solar power lawn ornament; its headlights and cab light up at night.

DonSchap
03-08-2009, 11:29 AM
Here's another peek at the Tauraco ... darting in and snarfin' off with a chunk of the parrot's feed. Food, the great natural motivator, eh?



44818
EXIF: A700 v. 04w/ TAMRON SP AF 200-500m f/5-6.3 Di LD
@ 200mm - f/7.1 - 1/10 sec. - ISO-800 - Spot Meter - Spot Focus - Manual - Handheld - Ambient lighting (diffused skylight)

Rooz
03-08-2009, 02:03 PM
Rooz, I may be being thick here, but I don't see it.
If I'm in Manual mode it's because I have a specific reason for not wanting the camera to change the exposure.
If the AutoIso is in operation it will change it, and that's not what I want.
Right?

if you have time to set up and adjust for every shot, then yes i agree auto iso wont be necessary. however, if you are shootin quite a few shots and he light is variable as you or the subject are moving around, then thats where it becomes important.

shooting in manual mode means you must adjust for the changing light every time the subject moves. this is not necessary with auto iso. in Ap mode its obviously more useful, but i find myself using it in manual mode aswell if i dont want my shutter speed to blow out to 1/4000s for example when people are moving between sunlight and shade.

if you dont need it, you just switch it off. to me, if a manufacturer is going to give us a feature like this i find it incredibley frustrating and stupid that they would put parameters on it so they tell ME how to use it by crippling its use. if you give me the feature, let me decide how to use it. this is a bit of a case of ticking a box by sony. they can tick a box to say "i have auto-iso too", but its such a substandard version its not comparing like for like. sony's next gen cameras need to sort this kind of thing out if they are truly going to be competetive at the mid-top end.

DonSchap
03-08-2009, 05:00 PM
One of the usual aspects of remotely snapping the bird feeders is that you get all sorts of hungry raptors winging it in for a feed. The Sparrows and House Finches (Thanks, Jim) are the more popular of the attendees, but among them is a rather distinct looking one ... who looks like nature could not decide if he was a cardinal or a finch ... so Mother Nature split the difference.

Here is a gang Chomp of Sparrows:
44788

and their lil off-color friend.
44789

and here you can plainly see the strange red colored body to the female version.
44790

TenD
03-08-2009, 05:15 PM
House Finch in fact the last photo is a pair, put out some thistle or nyjer seed, you'll see more. Maybe even attract some gold finches.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_Finch

DonSchap
03-08-2009, 06:06 PM
I see ... the male has all the real color ... makes sense. My welcome to the world of birds, eh? Thanks, Jim.

sparkie1263
03-08-2009, 06:09 PM
Not bad Don.

Frank

Peekayoh
03-08-2009, 06:47 PM
GREAT CRESTED GREBE

Camera: Sony DSLR-A700
Lens: Minolta 28-135mm f4/4.5
Exposure: 1/250th
Aperture: f6.3
Focal Length: 135mm
ISO Speed: 200
Date: 11th February 2009
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TenD
03-08-2009, 06:54 PM
I see ... the male has all the real color ... makes sense. My welcome to the world of birds, eh? Thanks, Ernest.

Sorry I didn't mean to mislead. The first photo looks to be common House Sparrows. The second, a male House Finch, the third a pair of House Finches. I am a displaced midwesterner and I remember those birds from when I lived there.

Oh and BTW, my quote is not mine but from an author who wrote several aviation novels.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_K._Gann

My name is Jim.

Peekayoh
03-09-2009, 04:12 AM
Here's another peek at the Tauraco ... darting in and snarfin' off with a chunk of the parrot's feed. Food, the great natural motivator, eh?

Don, you never had a hope of getting this shot without a tripod. I'm assuming you know that and were simply caught with the wrong lens on camera. For the benefit of the less experienced who may be reading this thread....

The shot was hand held at a focal length of 200mm and generally help principles dictate that a shutter of 1/200th (the reciprocal of the "f number") would be required to take the shot. The "Anti shake" will help by a couple of stops meaning you'll probably get away with 1/50th sec and if you're young and have a very good technique (and maybe something to lean on) you may get down to 1/25, but don't hold your breath (correction, "Do hold your breath"). Anyway, that shutter speed may just about work for a static subject but is optimistic for a bird, even stood still it will usually jerk it's head about. I'd be looking for 1/125th or better. With people shots you'll get away with 1/50th especially if they are aware and posed.

Tom F
03-09-2009, 07:46 AM
For the next few days I'll post some images from my resent vacation. This first one is Diamondheand at dawn.

http://www.sonyalphaphotos.com/hawaii/diamondhead.jpg

Camera Make: SONY
Camera Model: DSLR-A700
Image Date: 2009:02:16 12:16:01
Flash Used: No
Focal Length: 40.0mm (35mm equivalent: 60mm)
Exposure Time: 5.000 s
Aperture: f/2.8
ISO equiv: 200
White Balance: Auto
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: aperture priority (semi-auto)

sparkie1263
03-09-2009, 07:59 AM
Nice image Tom. I think I would edit out the light from the plane.
Frank

Tom F
03-09-2009, 08:14 AM
Frank I know I should but I like to pretend it's a shooting star.

dr4gon
03-09-2009, 07:16 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3641/3341696654_f3b5c3df12_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr4gon/3341696654/)

T70-200/2.8 through a dirty window.

Peekayoh
03-09-2009, 07:25 PM
Nice one! Good camouflage too.

dr4gon
03-09-2009, 07:27 PM
Thanks Peek!

Peekayoh
03-09-2009, 07:30 PM
SPROUTING

Camera: Sony DSLR-A700
Lens: Minolta 50mm MD Macro
Aperture: f11 -2.0EV
Focal Length: 50mm
ISO Speed: 200
Date: 05th March 2009

dr4gon
03-09-2009, 08:08 PM
I love watching the plants coming to life!

Rooz
03-09-2009, 09:50 PM
T70-200/2.8 through a dirty window.

that is very impressive considering how skittish these things are.

Tom F
03-10-2009, 03:40 AM
A view of the Pali Lookout.

http://www.sonyalphaphotos.com/hawaii/peak2.jpg

Camera Make: SONY
Camera Model: DSLR-A700
Image Date: 2009:02:20 19:06:59
Flash Used: No
Focal Length: 35.0mm (35mm equivalent: 52mm)
Exposure Time: 0.0080 s (1/125)
Aperture: f/5.0
ISO equiv: 200
White Balance: Auto
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: aperture priority (semi-auto)

DonSchap
03-10-2009, 05:20 AM
I spent a lot of time looking down from there, back in 1977-79, while stationed at Pearl Harbor. I actually tried to scale the side of peak, near the top (there's a hidden alcove, just a little bit in from the lookout. You can just make it out, in the upper left hand side of your image.) ... and nearly got stuck doing it. A few hair-raising moments, to be sure. :eek: When you are young ... you tend to bet with checks you may not be able to cash. A man has to know his limitations and volcanic rock is definitely one of them.

The wind that blows against that face, most days, is almost enough to keep you from falling off. I said, "ALMOST!" King Kamehameha ran his defeated enemy over that ledge. A rough drop for sure. Over 400 men were forced off the Pali's cliff, a drop of 1,000 feet.

That is a great-looking shot, Tom. I like the expanse you have in it, at the upper right. It sets it off just right. If you look close, you can still see one of those guys caught in the cliff face. Okay, just kidding. :rolleyes: :D

Nice work.

Tom F
03-10-2009, 08:59 AM
Yes the strength of the wind up there is amazing. At times it seems like it could blow someone up and over the peak.

dr4gon
03-10-2009, 07:51 PM
A view of the Pali Lookout.

http://www.sonyalphaphotos.com/hawaii/peak2.jpg

Camera Make: SONY
Camera Model: DSLR-A700
Image Date: 2009:02:20 19:06:59
Flash Used: No
Focal Length: 35.0mm (35mm equivalent: 52mm)
Exposure Time: 0.0080 s (1/125)
Aperture: f/5.0
ISO equiv: 200
White Balance: Auto
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: aperture priority (semi-auto)

Nice landscape. Looks like a beautiful place. It seems like something is missing from the left side (would crop it differently). Also it seems to be a bit washed out (haze), I would do a curves/levels/exposure adjustment to get some of that back.

Tom F
03-11-2009, 06:32 AM
Also it seems to be a bit washed out (haze), I would do a curves/levels/exposure adjustment to get some of that back.

And the last time you calibrated monitor was?

laydros
03-11-2009, 06:39 AM
And the last time you calibrated monitor was?

Wow... my Samsung LCD and MacBook built-in display must be pretty out of calibration to the same degree.

Perhaps they are, but the point of this thread (started by dr4gon) is C&C. It's fine to not agree, but that kind of reaction comes across as snippy. Maybe it was meant to be lighthearted, but it certainly didn't come across that way.

Additionally, color vibrance tends to be a very subjective thing. I like photos that seem saturated a little past reality. There is a good chance that when you took that shot, the way it looks in the image is almost exactly how it looked. dr4gon didn't blame you, he blamed haze. If it is about how it looks, and you are going for a true representation, by all means keep it that way. To those of us that like to push our color a bit, it seems a little washed out.

Tom F
03-11-2009, 06:48 AM
Something simple Three Palm Trees.

http://www.sonyalphaphotos.com/hawaii/three%20palm%20trees.jpg

dr4gon
03-11-2009, 06:48 AM
Sorry, I was also hinting at maybe the use of a CPL or more polarization. But I didn't mean to blame you, just offering a personal critique.

http://www.sonyalphaphotos.com/hawaii/peak2.jpg

44826

That's kinda something I had in mind.

DonSchap
03-11-2009, 06:53 AM
I wound up with a more "lush" look, using color contrasting, instead of curves. This might be a bit too intense ... but, darn good eatin' LOL


44827


Ryan, I thought yours had a bit too much magenta in it, as it actual color cast the rock and the vegetation.

laydros
03-11-2009, 06:56 AM
I wound up with a more "lush" look, using color contrasting, instead of curves. This might be a bit too intense ... but, darn good eatin' LOL


44827


Mmmm.... broccoli.

Tom F
03-11-2009, 06:56 AM
Wow... my Samsung LCD and MacBook built-in display must be pretty out of calibration to the same degree.

Perhaps they are, but the point of this thread (started by dr4gon) is C&C. It's fine to not agree, but that kind of reaction comes across as snippy. Maybe it was meant to be lighthearted, but it certainly didn't come across that way.

Additionally, color vibrance tends to be a very subjective thing. I like photos that seem saturated a little past reality. There is a good chance that when you took that shot, the way it looks in the image is almost exactly how it looked. dr4gon didn't blame you, he blamed haze. If it is about how it looks, and you are going for a true representation, by all means keep it that way. To those of us that like to push our color a bit, it seems a little washed out.

I just ask a simple question to know here he's coming from.

Tom F
03-11-2009, 06:58 AM
Sorry, I was also hinting at maybe the use of a CPL or more polarization. But I didn't mean to blame you, just offering a personal critique.

44826

That's kinda something I had in mind.

To me this looks very plastic.