Nikon Outs its Own D3x D-SLR

[teko]

Nikon leaked the D3x in its own Nikon Pro Magazine according to Engadget. Important specifications like price and availability are still unknown, but details are now available.

According to your own Pro magazine, the D3x will sport an FX-format, 24.5 megapixel sensor shooting 5fps at full resolution or 7fps at a reduced 10 megapixels. Nikon made a few other tweaks including an extended ISO 50-6400 range but the body design, AF, metering, and main functions remain the same as the D3.

Article: http://www.dailytech.com/Nikon+Outs+its+Own+D3x+DSLR/article13542.htm
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/28/nikon-outs-d3x-in-own-pro-magazine/

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[Dread Pirate Roberts]

Damn NAS, I'd love one

[Screenclutter]

Not that I'll get either the D3x or the D3 unless I win the lottery but for some reason, I'd lean towards the D3 for its speed and maybe better ISO?

But my NAS priorities would be lenses first.

[Rooz]

me too. i have no interest in files that big without the speed and low light capability. the d3x doesnt interest me in the slightest.

[swpars]

I'd personally take a camera with the D3/D700 sensor over one with a 24 megapixel sensor for the ridiculously good ISO performance coupled with full frame wide angles, but that's a decision I won't be in the position to make for a while.

[XaiLo]

I take it it's meant as a studio only camera from a low light perspective. I'd like to see what the images are going to look like. But from the specs this is reading like a big thud. What a shame the image quality better set a new standard or I just don't get it.

[LR Max]

I hope it pushes down the price of the D3. I am probably going to buy a D3 in the next four months, most likely used. The prices have dropped and they could drop more with the D3X comes out.

If used goes for under 3k, I will be all over that.

[accord2003]

MSRP for D3X is $8K U.S. It just seems a bit high. Well for me anyway :eek:

[K1W1]

MSRP for D3X is $8K U.S. It just seems a bit high. Well for me anyway :eek:

And what's more it ain't got no movie mode. What sort of a POS DSLR is that? :D:D

For those who haven't noticed the official release announcement is here (www.dcresource.com)

[Rooz]

I take it it's meant as a studio only camera from a low light perspective. I'd like to see what the images are going to look like. But from the specs this is reading like a big thud. What a shame the image quality better set a new standard or I just don't get it.

pretty simple really. its a hi res camera for studio and stills. no big deal for people like us but there is a market for it at the top end.

[Rooz]

i am a bit perplexed at how they can generate 50mb raw files mind you.

[e_dawg]

I guess Nikon wasn't about to let Canon have the spotlight all to itself, given that the 5DII was just starting to ship and we have seen another conspicuously timed video from Vincent Laforet from the 5DII. (Laforet is proving to be such a blatant Canon shill of late that I'm really starting to lose respect for him...)

[Turo]

Wow that is a serious price! Obviously not intended for someone like me, but still! Quite a bit higher than the D3 or even the 1Ds MkIII! I can't wait to see what it generates as far as images go.

[Turo]

Here we go, sample images at different ISO settings:

http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews_nikon_d3x_3.php

I guess its a tad better than my D50 ;)

[teko]

They seem to use the same sensor as the Sony A900, but at almost 3x the price... :eek: :eek:

[dr4gon]

They seem to use the same sensor as the Sony A900, but at almost 3x the price... :eek: :eek:

And Sony's camera is overpriced! :eek: (@ $3,000 USD, versus the 5dmII which is $2700).

[accord2003]

here are the official samples.

http://imaging.nikon.com/products/imaging/lineup/digitalcamera/slr/d3x/sample.htm

[jcon]

Here we go, sample images at different ISO settings:

http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews_nikon_d3x_3.php

I guess its a tad better than my D50 ;)

I downloaded that ISO6400 shot and I am not impressed. I wasnt expecting a miracle due to the added pixels but come on... 8 grand for that?!?! Heres hopin the D3 price drops!

[Rooz]

this is not intended to be a hi-iso camera. and since when did hi-iso become the standard by which a camera body is measured ? thats ridiculous and incredibley sad imo. the D3 is the PJ/ hi iso/ sports camera and this is a fine art, still life, studio camera that promoses incredible detail and tonal graduation. whether it delivers it or not is yet to be seen. anyone remember a little old camera called the 1dsMkIII ? by the logic used to measure cameras, you would think the 5dMkII replaced the canon flagship for a third of the price. comparing this to an a900 et al is the epitome of ignorance to exactly what/ who this camera is aimed at. ie: no one here.

is the price overdone ? personally, i think absolutely. i think its $2k more than it should be. but in saying that, its aimed at the MF market against cameras that cost $15-20k. in saying that...50mb files ? 120mb tiff's ? well...thats alot of detail and information recorded for a single image. if it produces IQ that rivals MF then for some this could become a bargain.

[K1W1]

Can't see why you need high ISO in a studio. I thought that was why people invest a fortune in lighting set ups.

BTW Rooz. Zazz have a 1TB external drive for $184 today. Maybe you should grab a couple. :D

[e_dawg]

is the price overdone ? personally, i think absolutely. i think its $2k more than it should be. but in saying that, its aimed at the MF market against cameras that cost $15-20k. in saying that...50mb files ? 120mb tiff's ? well...thats alot of detail and information recorded for a single image. if it produces IQ that rivals MF then for some this could become a bargain.

The man is smarter than he looks ;) As luck would have it, I just read an article comparing the A900 being against MF cameras and how it does better than you might think:

http://www.swiatobrazu.pl/_and_they_compared_to_one_another_hasselblad_h3_ma miya_afdiii_sony_alpha_900_821.html,1

[erichlund]

The other photographer this is aimed at is the landscape photographer. At issue, with this and the other 20+ mp cameras, is whether the small pixels will push the diffraction limit too far. Perhaps something in the 18mp range will hit the sweet spot for landscapers. Time will tell. Too rich for my budget. That's for certain. I don't really need the full on Pro body, either.

One point that is clearly being missed. Nikon still lists the D700 at near $3000 (US), but nobody is actually paying that. Patience will pay. The price will float to a market value, perhaps substantially below what Nikon wants.

[jcon]

Well Rooz and K1W1, for MY needs, I NEED ISO performance as I do alot of weddings, sure, I do studio work with SB Speedlights, but cant use those during wedding ceremonies, so when I mention MY dissapointment and MY needs, I am not thinking about what OTHERS may need or want in a camera, I am buying for MY needs, which happens to be ISO performance.

So until I can use "lighting setups" during a wedding... I will keep looking for ISO.

Those that shoot insects, cars, or outdoor images, wont need ISO. To each their own.

[Rooz]

sorry j. i disnt mean to sound like an asshole, (although it does come naturally :D) !! lol

from my POV, if you need iso thats what you buy a D3 or d700 for. its kinda like looking at the specs of a limo and complaining it doesnt do 0-100 in 4seconds. or looking at a D300 but complaining it doesnt fit in your handbag. not really what this camera is designed for.

[jcon]

Na, youre all good man. I was just tryin to defend my reasoning for mentioning ISO. We all have our needs... and I respect your opinion.. yours is one of the few I still do here! My plan is to wait and see what happens with the D3 price. Thats the perfect camera for me and my needs!

[XaiLo]

pretty simple really. its a hi res camera for studio and stills. no big deal for people like us but there is a market for it at the top end.

Sorry Rooz, I guess I didn't do a good job of quantifying my response. This is what I expected from the D3x. But relative to recent releases besides the expected pixel count it's reading kind of dry. I suppose Nikon has been so hot lately one is expecting that extra pop. My point being for this camera it has to be in the image quality. Landscaping is not my thing so maybe ISO 6400 is hi enough for that segment. Though I believe the native ISO support is 100 - 1600, plus 2 hi and 1 low. Also I expected it to run $1000 - $1500 less than it's current list. From a business standpoint the buy in is pretty reasonable if the image quality is there.

[Rooz]

great little article by Mr Hogan
http://www.bythom.com/nikond3xcomments.htm

[e_dawg]

Ouch. Thom spanked Nikon like the naughty kid it is. In public, no less, with thousands of people watching in morbid fascination :eek:

[XaiLo]

Yeah what he said Rooz, I think Thom did a great job of echoing my sentiments. lol :p

[DonSchap]

Here's a heads up link (http://www.calumetphoto.com/item/NZ24031/?t=CM01&a=CM01) ... take a look ;)

[n9nf]

tempting ....

but I'd rather use my D80 and buy new lense like 17-55 F2.8 nikkor ...
I'll use D80 for the next 2 yrs ... MAYBE ... :rolleyes: